Granny Danger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Donathan said: Genuinely very disappointing to see the blatant anti-semitism on this thread. Genuinely disappointed to see you playing ‘criticism of Israel is anti-semitism’ card. However not in the least surprised. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I may be simplifying things a wee bit too far but regardless or race, religion or creed, bombing a hospital of civilians is wrong. The mass loss of civilian lives is wrong. This isn't about sides. It's about basic humanity. There are no winners in war. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Donathan said: Any remotely pro-Israel comment in this thread is downvoted to oblivion. I'm sure Biden will mention the number of red dots they're building up to Netenyahu. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Donathan said: Genuinely very disappointing to see the blatant anti-semitism on this thread. That's a strong claim, but we shouldn't ever confuse anti-Israeli Government sentiment with anti-Semitism. In the same way that the USA, the UK and many other countries automatically default to a position of 'Israel, Right or Wrong', then we can't simply tag any criticism of that Government as anti-Semitic. There is a large percentage of the Israeli population who strongly disagree with Netanyahu's suitability for office, never mind his policies, and I'd guess that few of them would describe themselves as anti-Semites. Not that you'll see that widely reported in the UK media. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Downvoting genocidal maniacs? Deary me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 9 hours ago, welshbairn said: Iran will declare war on P&B if we keep calling them Arabs. Iran is west of Dobbies tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, velo army said: Iran is west of Dobbies tbf You need to buy yourself a map! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: That's a strong claim, but we shouldn't ever confuse anti-Israeli Government sentiment with anti-Semitism. In the same way that the USA, the UK and many other countries automatically default to a position of 'Israel, Right or Wrong', then we can't simply tag any criticism of that Government as anti-Semitic. There is a large percentage of the Israeli population who strongly disagree with Netanyahu's suitability for office, never mind his policies, and I'd guess that few of them would describe themselves as anti-Semites. Not that you'll see that widely reported in the UK media. The pro-Zionist lobby has been using the anti-Zionism = anti-Semitism lie for a long, long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, orfc said: You can't say that mate. You know the rules on PLO & Bovril: Hamas say something with no evidence: Obviously bang on Israel say something with evidence: Obvious fabrication What’s the rule concerning blindly believing the views of Israel’s biggest ally and funder? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The pro-Zionist lobby has been using the anti-Zionism = anti-Semitism lie for a long, long time. Ok let’s discuss this then. What do anti-Zionists actually propose to do with all the Jews? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Baddiel really should know that the Israeli government and Jews are not the same thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 @Donathan strikes me as the type of person who’s behind one those Twitter accounts that post mundane shite every 5 minutes passed off as “BREAKING NEWS” accompanied by loads of emojis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Donathan said: Ok let’s discuss this then. What do anti-Zionists actually propose to do with all the Jews? Well I’m anti-Zionist so I will talk for myself. What would I do with ‘all the Jews’? I wouldn’t do anything with ‘all the Jews’. I’d be happy to accept that Israel continues to exist as a country and that a separate Palestinian state be created which would likely mean Israel having to give up some of its land. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Baddiel really should know that the Israeli government and Jews are not the same thing. Baddiel should also know that if he wants to make money, the PPV receipts for a boxing match where Jason Lee boots fifteen shades of f**k out him would dwarf his book sales. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, RH33 said: There are no winners in war. Apart from arms manufacturers, and the rich. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Baddiel really should know that the Israeli government and Jews are not the same thing. He says that when it suits him, like in that awful “documentary” he says he shouldn’t be expected to defend/criticise Israel just because he’s Jewish (which is true), but at the same time he takes criticism of Israel as criticism of Jewish people in general. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, mathematics said: Apart from arms manufacturers, and the rich. You got Private Eye today too then?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: You need to buy yourself a map! The amount of times I get west and east mixed up I'm surprised I haven't yet fallen off a cliff . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I’m wholeheartedly against the Israeli onslaught, but lads…be fair…it’s looking more and more like it was a Hamas rocket that hit the hospital by accident. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, orfc said: You can't say that mate. You know the rules on PLO & Bovril: Hamas say something with no evidence: Obviously bang on Israel say something with evidence: Obvious fabrication 1 hour ago, Donathan said: Genuinely very disappointing to see the blatant anti-semitism on this thread. Red dotted the first one because PLO & Bovril is shite patter. Red dotted the second one because it is untrue. Hope this clears things up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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