Bully Wee Villa Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Yeah, he's hardly going to oppose Israel and further risk pissing off American legislators who can't wait for an excuse to stop sending cash and weapons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, DannyBlue said: I mean Rachel Riley basically has said she called the police to speak to them because she saw people dancing with a flag. She's equated this to a threat to her based on religion but she hasn't demonstrated that any bad behaviour was carried out only that they 'appeared to be celebrating' and the decided it was driven by antisemitism. Maybe they are antisemites who were celebrating but none of that has been established but the press has picked it up and ran with it ans Braverman is now posturing like usual. Imagine Riley was Muslim and the people had an Israeli flag. I think the reaction would be different and that to me lies at the heart of what irritates me so much about this conflict. The behaviours are not judged on the merit of whether or not they are bad or morally wrong but instead are first filtered through prejudices based on who is carrying them out. It's unconstructive and it further entrenches the hatred that has fueled this conflict for decades. Riley is a c**t. BTW that’s not new or surprising. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Yeah, he's hardly going to oppose Israel and further risk pissing off American legislators who can't wait for an excuse to stop sending cash and weapons. Well we will just mark it up as twenty out of ten on the irony scale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 57 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Also galling that Zelenskyy is supporting Israel. Did you expect anything else ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Also galling that Zelenskyy is supporting Israel. Does he know the songs about King Billy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 hours ago, SweeperDee said: Imagine looking to fairytales to try and enforce your nations’ right to expand its’ borders. All nations use 'fairytales' to justify their existence, so your Poundland Dawkins routine is even worse analysis than usual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, TxRover said: That’s simple geopolitics. ‘Murica and NATO is behind Israel, therefore Ukraine is so as to not give any excuses to delay/reduce aid. Additionally, Iran supports Hamas and Russia, and its Iranian drones that Ukraine is blasting out of the sky daily. Basically agree but think claiming all of NATO is behind Israel is a bit of a stretch. Turkey? Edit: not entirely sure that news is genuine yet but basic point is that I don't think it's safe to assume Washington and Ankara are on the same page. Edited October 8, 2023 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Shotgun said: I think I might start walking up to people and saying “God told me I could have your car.” Wonder if anyone would take me seriously. You can have mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, virginton said: All nations use 'fairytales' to justify their existence, so your Poundland Dawkins routine is even worse analysis than usual. Knew I could rely on you chirping up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: You can have mine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The exhaust blew. Fortunately only 50 yards from the house, but I brought it in like a winged Lancaster Bomber. It would put the fear of God into both sides if I drove it about Gaza. Edited October 8, 2023 by Sergeant Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Also galling that Zelenskyy is supporting Israel. Iran is pro Putin, Ukraine are dependent on Munitions & support from the US & It's allies. I am not saying it is right but what choice does he have there. Edited October 8, 2023 by Moomintroll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Quote At least 260 bodies found at music festival, says rescue service Israeli rescue service Zaka says at least 260 bodies have been removed from a music festival that came under Hamas attack. Video aired by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled. The death toll is expected to rise as paramedic teams continue to work in the area. https://news.sky.com/story/israel-gaza-latest-hamas-fighters-on-the-ground-after-5-000-rockets-fired-jerusalem-attacks-gaza-strip-targets-and-calls-up-reserves-12978800?postid=6554340#liveblog-body 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: The exhaust blew. Fortunately only 50 yards from the house, but I brought it in like a winged Lancaster Bomber. It would put the fear of God into both sides if I drove it about Gaza. I am happy to crowd fund that. Will stick in a fiver myself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Basically agree but think claiming all of NATO is behind Israel is a bit of a stretch. Turkey? Edit: not entirely sure that news is genuine yet but basic point is that I don't think it's safe to assume Washington and Ankara are on the same page. Fair enough, I always forget Turkey…plus a couple of others aren’t fully on board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Basically agree but think claiming all of NATO is behind Israel is a bit of a stretch. Turkey? Edit: not entirely sure that news is genuine yet but basic point is that I don't think it's safe to assume Washington and Ankara are on the same page. Apparently fake subtitles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: The exhaust blew. Fortunately only 50 yards from the house, but I brought it in like a winged Lancaster Bomber. It would put the fear of God into both sides if I drove it about Gaza. So it sounds like a tank, but does it look like a tank? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Sgt. Wilson's trip to California in the 90s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 The only certainty here is that the majority of people who will die (regardless of Israeli or Palestinian) with be civilians. Obvious the more extremes on either side might argue that there is no such thing as a civilian in this, but its unlikely armed soldiers will be the majority of casualties. Of course, the reaction from Israel will be severe, but ultimately that is what Hamas wanted. To them, it was all getting a bit too 'normal' despite a far right Israel government, so to stoke the conflict is a win for them. Likewise for the hard right in Israel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 On 07/10/2023 at 19:32, Moomintroll said: As usual, it will be innocent people on both sides who will suffer because of this neverending shite There is a / are reason(s) it is never ending 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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