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Israel And The Palestinians (now with added Iran/Lebanon)


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29 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Listened intermittently to the R4 Today programme this morning, and it was frightening to hear the predominant voices change from advocating de-escalation and ceasefire to being gung-ho for a full on attack on Iran along with finishing off Hezbollah. The neocons must have just been hibernating since their Iraq catastrophe.

Biden is a neocon. 

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(https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/17/joe-biden-role-iraq-war).

A stated idol of his is Henry Jackson, something he shares with Douglas Murray. 

This, much like his cognitive decline, was overlooked in 2020 due to Trump obsession. 

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2 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Listened intermittently to the R4 Today programme this morning, and it was frightening to hear the predominant voices change from advocating de-escalation and ceasefire to being gung-ho for a full on attack on Iran along with finishing off Hezbollah. The neocons must have just been hibernating since their Iraq catastrophe.

They had petraeus (sp?) on advocating internment camps (which he called "gated communities") that worked so well to pacify Iraq and banish the Taliban. Some neck. 

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5 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Hezbollah have said they repelled an Israeli attack on Odaisseh, which is a village right on the border.  It's been the site of fighting before, you'd have to assume that it's been heavily fortified by Hezbollah.

A number of IDF soldiers were killed in the fighting in Odaisseh, seven confirmed so far. 

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33 minutes ago, GTG_03 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

 

Why is it always Israel Vs Hezbollah ? Or Israel Vs Hamas ? Surely it's Israel v Lebanon or Israel v Palestine. 

A cynic might say it is to convey the narrative that Israel are only attacking the terrorist groups themselves as opposed to blowing up hospitals and schools...

In the case of Lebanon the Israelis aren't actively attacking the Lebanese State - but Hezbollah.

When we refer to WWII most people say "fighting the Nazis" rather than "fighting the Germans" - even though a lot of german civilians died - and it's much the same thing here.

Less so, obviously, with Palestine because Israel are fully committed to destroying it.

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