Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 The majority of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I don't think the ROI would really want Northern Ireland, why would they? Churchill orffered it to de Valera and he said No thanks. On a lighter note: I was in Auld's the bakers in Irvine last week and had a coffee and a scone. It was £3.10 and I tendered a twenty. Had a smile to myself when she gave me my change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I've never worn a bowler hat in my life, but it appears that you mind is already made up? Having grown up in this area I would be surprised if many other posters will have the same local knowledge, but there you go. Even if I had worn a bowler hat, would that automatically make me a liar? I tried. "Small loyalist areas under constant siege or, in the case of Torrens, an area where the working class protestant population was ethnically cleansed by their peace loving neighbours through constant intimidation." How does that explain why Catholics would be offended at that point of the march? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 My experience of living in Dublin leads me to reply "would they fcuk"! I wouldn't even be surprised if a large section of Catholics would be happy staying within the UK either Do you get political parties in NI that are not Unionists = protestant or Nationalists = republicans? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I wouldn't even be surprised if a large section of Catholics would be happy staying within the UK either Do you get political parties in NI that are not Unionists = protestant or Nationalists = republicans? Alliance Party Womens Coalition The Green Party (don't poll well in Loyalist areas funnily enough) There may be more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Peaceful protests fine - these "protests" are totally wrong. It's all part of the illusionary divide and rule granda, innit? Let's be honest. Does anyone really think that the corrupt weathy elite bankster families and their puppets of their corrupt ponzi pyramid control system of the so-called UK would have been able to get away with all of their dirty deeds if they and their predecessors had not spent many centuries creating many illusionary puppet organisations? Organisations created specifically to cause many divisions among the people of the so-called UK. The people of the so-called UK are very easily misled and divided by the crooked masters of deception above them. The last thing the corrupt wealthy elite on earth want is people living in peace and harmony with each other. There is no profit in peace and harmony among the people for the wealthy elite puppet masters. Edited July 16, 2013 by Saor Alba 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 We do indeed, the Alliance Party, out own equivalent of the Lib Dems. Also others like Green Party, Rainbow Party, various smaller Labour parties. My good friend back home is a devout Catholic, and by that I mean he attends church as regularly as every week rather than being a pious w@nk, yet he prefers the status quo, without the rioting of course. The problem with Catholics who want to be British and Protestants who want a united Ireland is they are reluctant to say too much about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverSinging Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Agree with the first point, they shouldn't be allowed to march through Catholic areas, except the Ardoyne shop front is not an area with a large Catholic population; it is a short stretch of road and the "offended" have to make an effort to leave their houses, bypass the shops and go up onto the Crumlin Road. It seems to me that the republicans have been rewarded for years of rioting. Agree entirely; the rioting is reprehensible, stupid, and actually sets back any argument they might have had. Is it just the Crumlin Road they've been told not to march through? Seems to me that there's people on both sides who just use everything as an excuse to riot and complain. I wonder if they'll ever realise what a bunch of utter twats they are 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 It's all part of the illusionary divide and rule granda, innit? Let's be honest. Does anyone really think that the corrupt weathy elite bankster families and their puppets of their corrupt ponzi pyramid control system of the so-called UK would have been able to get away with all of their dirty deeds if they and their predecessors had not spent many centuries creating many illusionary puppet organisations to cause many divisions among the people of the so-called UK? The people of the so-called UK are very easily misled and divided by the crooked masters of deception at the top. The last thing the corrupt wealthy elite on earth want is people living in peace and harmony with each other. There is no profit in that for the puppet masters. Well aren't you the lucky chap that will be able to change all that in next year's referendum, while I'm stuck with the status quo... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 It's a very small section of the Crumlin Road that is the disputed area. Spot on about those on both sides who use things as an excuse though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Is it just the Crumlin Road they've been told not to march through? Seems to me that there's people on both sides who just use everything as an excuse to riot and complain. I wonder if they'll ever realise what a bunch of utter twats they are No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 "Small loyalist areas under constant siege or, in the case of Torrens, an area where the working class protestant population was ethnically cleansed by their peace loving neighbours through constant intimidation." How does that explain why Catholics would be offended at that point of the march? People get bused in from elsewhere to be "offended" in these situations and if they get their way on the Crumlin Road they'll shift their focus somewhere else and create a new cause celebre to moan to the international media about. It's all about slowly expanding their turf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rob Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) I've changed my opinion on the Orange Order. SCUMMY FUCKING c***s. No surprise to see the Linfield fan defending them though. Edited July 16, 2013 by Big Rob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 "Small loyalist areas under constant siege or, in the case of Torrens, an area where the working class protestant population was ethnically cleansed by their peace loving neighbours through constant intimidation." How does that explain why Catholics would be offended at that point of the march? It doesn't, but LTL posted the names of these two areas and you asked for an explanation directly underneath. The trouble back home is very much a two way thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverSinging Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 No It getting better though isn't it? Won't the sectarianism vanish as new generations care less and less? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I've changed my opinion on the Orange Order. SCUMMY FUCKING c***s. No surprise to see the Linfield fan defending them though. Please show me where I have defended the actual OO? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 It getting better though isn't it? Won't the sectarianism vanish as new generations care less and less? No, because many communities are as divided as ever, and the bigotry of the parents lives on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 People get bused in from elsewhere to be "offended" in these situations and if they get their way on the Crumlin Road they'll shift their focus somewhere else and create a new cause celebre to moan to the international media about. It's all about slowly expanding their turf. So why would Catholics be offended at that particular part of the march if it's not a Catholic area? It's like pulling teeth, this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 It doesn't, but LTL posted the names of these two areas and you asked for an explanation directly underneath. The trouble back home is very much a two way thing. I understand that, but that is the original question I asked and I don't seem to be able to get a straight answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I don't think the ROI would really want Northern Ireland, why would they? No they don't , infact people in Dublin aren't too keen on Northerners in general, personally I've never been keen on Dublin anyway and prefer the west of Ireland , more rural. To be honest nobody in their right mind would want a United Ireland now, North or South, socially and economically it makes no sense for either country, many nationalists here are not really interested in a United Ireland but more the promotion of an Irish identity in the north. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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