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SFA and SPL about to make statements on Newco barely an hour since the Admins Statement am i the only person who smells dupicity here.
When the Chairmen met on Monday and decided very quickly to postpone their 'vote', anyone know how much longer they all remained at Hampden?
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Duffman about to do Q+A. Anyone found a live link?
Quite appropriate it's being done in the shadier part of Ibrox.
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I get the feeling Millar is gonnae be like Rodney looking at they broken lawnmower engines.
What the f**k is this I've got here?
Sadly, Rangers will be Trigger's broom.
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So it's the NewCo solution -- move everything into a NewCo will the existing company is "cleaned up" aka "wound up".
If the NewCo ends up in the SPL, it will be a disgrace.
If?
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alex thomson @alextomoIbrox say this press conference is "sports reporters only". You what? I'm on my way.
sports reporters only ie our puppets that'll print the party line and won't rock the boat.
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It wasn't that funny when the Real Saints supporter posted it about 100 pages ago
It's not funny now either. It's the truth. The fact others have thought the same speaks volumes.
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I cannot believe people follow that Republican apologist
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I'm not sure you know what St Johstone think as the Board has not officially pronounced on it. Steve Brown has passed comment and he was unambiguous about the fact that St Johnstone could comfortably survive without Rangers and there is abundant evidence to that fact, not least that they have been in a different division for many years one they sadly had to share with Dundee, Livingston and Gretna - the three degrees of fiduciary incompetence. So yes St Johnston can thrive. You are basing your comments on what Steve Brown said in relationship to other SPL clubs, and in his capacity as an SPL board member where he is required to think of the commonwealth of the SPL not just St Johnstone. He has been placed in a difficult predicament where he has to represent a diverse set of views not just SJFC. Saints have cash at the bank, a great trading record unfortunately that us not true of Hearts, Killie or Dunfermline. So at least attack the source of the problem - leveraged debt - and not SJFC. Otherwise back on topic
Do you really think that the son of St Johnstone owner Geoff Brown, a long time vocal supporter of reconstructing top level Scottish football around playing the OF 4 times a season to maximise income from them, is going to vote, in whichever capacity he is serving, against maintaining Rangers in the SPL as quickly as possible?
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There really is no correct and fair solution to this. Its a minefield.
Oh there is. Rangers have brought about their own demise and put themselves out of business. When they shortly no longer exist, they should be restricted to the history books they have put themselves into and life should go on without them. That is the correct and fair solution.
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tv revenue is 8% of SPL revenues.
Away stand capacity by £22 or however much, strip off a percentage for selling, stewards, police, repairs. Then figure if it's once or twice a season they visit.
Both can be quantified by most SPL sides.
Again I reckon SPL chairman can take a punt at that, some may stay away, but return after 3 or 6 months.
The likelihood is that the loss of TV income, (why always a 'loss of TV?' as a rangers free SPL would get a lesser TV deal) and either losing rangers once or twice a season is probably less of a risk to most clubs income streams than losing say a third of season ticket and walk up fan ticket revenue.
You forgot the element that most people do when calculating the 'loss' from not having the bigots visit, ie that there will be another club playing in their place, so there will be income from that game/s to add in to reduce any loss.
It's been shown before that for us having Dundee visit is virtually the same as Rangers so from gate income etc there would be minimal loss.
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It's 2012 and we have those new fangled computer machine things. How many minutes or hours would it take for someone to come up with sets of fixtures for the following SPL scenarios -
-with Rangers
-without Rangers, with Dundee
-without Rangers, with Falkirk
They're not exactly involved in a project to build a new large hadron collider. It's some football fixtures with a very limited number of options.
I'm sure Doncaster's right hand mad, I. Reddy, has next season all set up already.
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It was predictable Sally would argue the history follows the "team in blue shirts". But he's wrong, it's a not in any way shape or form a continuation of Bankrupt FC. It's a brand new team, brand new company crucially WITHOUT 3 years worth of accounts.
I suspect the limit of Ally's research was a quick Google search on Crystle Palace and Leeds United. A quick scan of a forum somewhere confirmed exaclty what he was wanting to hear. His financial understanding is probably as well developed as his football management skills.
Ally's homework will have been reading out what he was told to say by the propaganda machine.
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I disagree for me you either get rid of 'us' both or keep 'us' both. Having only one might seem like a step in the right direction for non old firm fans but I dont think it is. It is a step further down the diddy league ladder.
We're a diddy league with you in it. Much better to be a diddy league with only one set of bigoted knuckle draggers involved than two.
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For the last 15 years everyone at rangers and Celtic has been reeling us that the OF need to join a European league or move to England ,they're all on record as promoting this Smith McCoist, Celtic spokespersons and the Media ,and they've all told us how Scottish football would survive and indeed even prosper without the OF ,,,now if Rangers are even as much given a points deduction or relegated,,,it's Armageddon for Scottish football.
Lets see the full story, not just edited highlights.
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SFA would have to do something... shoehorn them in as a new member, or allow them to transfer their existing membership from one company to another... but SFL can do nothing about it. They have no reps on SFA Main Board currently, and can't get 1 (outnumbered 6-1 anyway) without SPL or institutional support.
Boycotting the Juniors, or boycotting beer, would have more direct effect.
Really though, the SFA don't actually need to do anything. Nor the SPL. It's not as if a freak of nature such as an earthquake destroyed a member clubs ground or their entire playing staff was wiped out in a tragic air accident. There are no sympathetic circumstances what so ever. A member club is about to put itself out of existence through cold, calculated cheating towards the other member clubs plus about everyone else it did business with. They have committed suicide. they have brought it all on themselves. There is no need for the SFA/SPL to act. They are choosing to.
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Maybe they're thinking Perth RFC has a certain ring to it.
Well, there's already a Perthshire RFC...http://bit.ly/KsWDXK
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Teehee.
This is played before every game at McDiarmid. A Jody Morris suggestion which has gone on for a couple of seasons now. It should therefore be played at Rangers last game...at least it should be but I wouldn't put it past some blue bigot apologist in a grey suit or match commander scared of mob rule having it banned for the day.
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I fear you are correct.
As I've just posted, this could be the day that effectively ends my love affair with senior football in Scotland. I'm actually feeling a bit sick thinking about it.
I've felt that way for a while actually given the predictability of it all. Today should just reaffirm it unfortunately. Still, at least I've a number of close by English clubs to chose from to go along to watch instead of driving up the M6 or listening to games on BBC Glasgow. Having been part weened off the SPL 'match day experience' for a while, the withdrawal symptoms won't be as bad as others.
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Well here we go D day
We could have ten names that will go down in the history of Scottish football or ten wankers that slip into the cesspit of orcs & goblins that are the OF
DO THE RIGHT THING
FTOF
Hmmmm, let me think. It's a difficult one to figure out. About as unpredictable as the Russian elections.
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I really don't like the sound of this, but it sound very realistic.....New Blog Post by the Scots Law Bloke (I know it's long and wordy, but if you can't be arsed with it all the BOLD bits are the jist of it)
Would St Johnstone want to be seen as complicit in ending Rangers' existence, because, if the newco was not allowed to play, that would mean that Rangers had expired before the end of the season, and thus its record would be expunged. Even if unfairly, St Johnstone would not want to be seen as partly responsible by closing the doors in Rangers' faces.Sad to say that Saints Chairman Steve Brown would kick the match off himself if it meant Rangers surviving.
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Allegedly Murdoch knows nothing of such an arrangment. It was the doing of a subordinate of his that worked in complete isolation.
Whilst I appreciate your excellent jibe, I'd be amazed if Murdoch had actually heard of Rangers. I'd have stretched that to Scotland had I not seen the pictures of Rangers apologist Salmond grovelling to him.
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Even right at the end it's a total OF stitch up...can't liquidate until after the last battle of the bigots. Less than 24 hours after that's out of the way let proceedings start. Pathetic.
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oooh - get you with your high standards - what's a girl gotta do to impress, eh ?
Have her waist smaller than her chest would be a good start....especially when her chest is DDDD.
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This is a club that bid £2m for Grant Holt back in January, despite knowing fine well they didnt have the money to pay for him
This is a club that spat the dummy out because Dundee United wouldnt sell them Goodwillie unless DU got the money up front, something they couldnt do as they knew fine well they didnt have the money to pay for for him.
This is the same club that Hearts entered into an agreement ( in good faith) for Lee Wallace, despite Rangers knowing fine well they didnt have the money to pay for him.
This is the club that tried to sign Daniel Cousin on a £6,000 a weekly wage, despite being in administration.
This is the same club that still owe Rapid Vienna £1.2m
This is the same club that owe St.Etienne £252,21, Palmero £205,513, Orebro £150,000, Arsenal £136,560, Chelsea £238,345, Dunfermline £83,370, Dundee United (Hibs) £65,981, ICT £39,805, Celtic £40,337
And that is before mentioned all the businesses around the country who they own million too or the taxpayers.
And yet this seem bemused the SFA have put them under a transfer embargo, they believe the SFA should be doing more to help a member club.
Newsflash, the SFA are helping memeber club, they are ensuring with this transfer embargo Rangers cannot rip off anyone else by trying to sign playing despite having no money
So why dont Rangers and the fans, instead of pointing the finger at everyone else, take some responsibility.
Rangers fans sat about and done nothing under David Murray when for years we have all heard rumours of the financial troubles at Ibrox,
Rangers fans who blamed any negative press against Craig whyte as a smear campaign
Rangers fans held a protest outside the BBC after the Craig Whyte documentary, branding it a "hatchet job"
Rangers fans, who held numerious meetings with Craig Whyte after he banned the BBC,
Rangers fans who held a 2 hour meeting with Craig Whyte, 2 days before entering admin
And yet they still continue to blame everyone else and the SFA.
They blame anyone, but the biggest culprit in all of this, no not David Murray or Craig Whyte
But Rangers fans themselves
No matter how hard you try, you're still a Celtic supporter.
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Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!
in Celtic v Rangers, Rangers v Celtic
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"The SPL will now continue discussions with Mr Miller and his team. No further comment will be made at this time."
I thought there had been no discussions between them?