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5 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:
I missed this but was getting goal alerts
Surely the BBC haven’t got this right
IThat wouldn't be our weirdest line-up this season tbf.
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2 hours ago, DC92 said:
Have we really dropped the guy that scored both our goals on Tuesday to play Andy fucking Halliday in a front three?
I've criticised team selections a couple of times this season and it's ended up going ok, but I'm properly baffled by this one. On paper it's possibly the least threatening line-up we've fielded all season.
Halliday was good today tbf. Really good header for the first and a nice set-up for the third.
Can't get too excited about winning a game like this but that's about as good as we could hope for. Completely in control throughout, didn't get distracted by the shocking refereeing decisions, passed the ball well and rattled in five goals. Underlines how much progress has been made since Brora.
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Have we really dropped the guy that scored both our goals on Tuesday to play Andy fucking Halliday in a front three?
I've criticised team selections a couple of times this season and it's ended up going ok, but I'm properly baffled by this one. On paper it's possibly the least threatening line-up we've fielded all season.
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1 hour ago, Les Cabbage said:
What was Demetri Mitchell like?
In terms of style I remember him being fast and a decent dribbler but I probably saw him play twice if you’re lucky.
I recall him being decent against us in one Edinburgh derby, sure he hit an absolute hammer of a shot that Marciano touched onto the bar but that’s about it.
Mitchell had talent but probably suffered from not really having a position. Played as a full-back in his first spell and looked great initially before starting to show a few defensive frailties. In his second season I think he mostly played on the wing and just wasn't effective there at all.
Maybe he'd be good as a LWB which I assume is where Hibs plan to use him?
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5 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said:
Didn't Hearts sign Barr, Black, Taouil and Haulket on PCAs? Can't remember the immoral fuss kicked up when they went through.
17 minutes ago, DC92 said:For the record, I don't care about said ethical discussion.
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37 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:
Some memory on you, mate. I honestly couldn't remember half of the details of this, and didn't even bother thinking about it until folk started trying to claim we did something similar in order to get him from United in the first place.
All I remembered was us signing him for 6 figures in January and Dundee United getting relegated at Dens tbh.
Quite incredible that a point about the ethics of announcing pre-contracts from the same division during the season has triggered so much discussion about a transfer which... was not a pre-contract.
For the record, I don't care about said ethical discussion.
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10 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:
Dundee United were already relegated, and we were not due to play them again. You maybe didn't hear(/read) it all.
They might not have been mathematically able to catch us, but they did play us after that and weren't relegated until they played Dundee in April/May.
That's irrelevant, though, because we didn't sign him on a pre-contract. He left Dundee United immediately in January.
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18 hours ago, Tony Wonder said:
Ah, I misunderstood. thought you were suggesting he'd come right back in. Good to see Boyce back.
Seems Boyce is actually only fit enough for a place on the bench. I wouldn't be averse to giving Henderson another go rather than shoehorning a winger in again.
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2 hours ago, Tony Wonder said:
I think even if Beni is fit he'll only be on the bench. I don't think you can justify dropping Haring in current form, he's been our best player since coming back in.
Yeah, I'd have expected Haring to start, I just asked because he wasn't even on the bench on IAP's team so I wasn't sure if I'd missed something.
I see Neilson has confirmed he's out anyway this morning. Full squad available aside from him.
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3 hours ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said:
Hopefully Souttar is not in the 18, could do without the distraction.
Gordon
Moore Halkett Kingsley
Smith Haring Devlin Cochrane
Woodburn Boyce McKay
Atkinson, GMS, Ginnelly, Stewart, McEneff, Halliday + 1
Is Baningime not supposed to be back?
Wouldn't be surprised to see Atkinson slot straight in. He played as recently as the 18th of December and he'll have had a week's training with the squad.
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59 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:
Yeah, agree with this. It would be transparent and churlish to suggest Souttar isn’t one of our best players, but he benefits greatly from having such a solid base around and behind him. He’s definitely not irreplaceable. I’d rather we had managed to get him signed up, but Savage’s hit rate on players in has been pretty exceptional so far, so I’d actually not be too surprised if we managed to strengthen the whole team with around £400k and the wages saved. That’s if we get anything for him of course. I’ve faith in Smith and Moore too.
He is a good player and we almost certainly won't replace him with someone as good defensively and as classy on the ball, but getting someone about as good defensively and decent on the ball is achievable. If we can do that then the net effect of him leaving won't be so bad.
Moore might fit the latter description and played that position for his previous clubs so I'd imagine he'll get the nod initially. When he's played there for us I'd say he looked good in two of the games and had a shocker in the other (Motherwell away) so the jury's still out there.
Admittedly I don't think he's had an extended run there but I can't really remember Smith having a poor game at CB. I could see him eventually taking over if Moore isn't up to it.
Either way I think we're probably well covered at RCB for the rest of the season. We've missed Halkett more than Souttar when either has been missing this season so I'd be looking for cover/competition there instead.
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20 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said:
Both the players you mentioned have hit the ceiling potential level. Failed elsewhere and decent at the diets. There's a reason nobody else wants them.
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I don't think it's at all controversial to say Kingsley and even Halkett have performed at least as well as Souttar this season, but that doesn't mean they're as good or have as much potential. Look at McGinn and McGeouch at Hibs.
The system we play accentuates the positives and mitigates the negatives for each player. Halkett is a good penalty box defender (probably better than Souttar) but he's often poor on the ball and he's weak at 1v1 defending. He's good in the centre of the three but probably wouldn't be great either side. Kingsley is good at the left-sided Souttar role but isn't strong enough or dominant enough in the air to play in the centre of the three or in a two.
The system definitely plays to Souttar's strengths as well, but I'd be comfortable with him playing any of those positions in the three or in the centre of a four and I'd say he's got the right mix of attributes to adapt to a higher level. He's also the youngest and clearly has the most potential, which is why he's attracted interest.
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1 hour ago, Hoose Rice said:
Cling onto it mate. pro-admin you've been down twice and won feck all
Not sure why a Hibs fan wants to get into willy-waving about trophies and recent time spent in the diddy leagues. That's an open goal.
Good to know you boys rate Souttar these days though. He definitely wouldn't be overrated and made of glass if he'd signed a new deal.
1 hour ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:
Scarf twirling thread for this pishI was going to ask if there's an "eye-bleeding drivel" thread but that's close enough.
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Just now, Hoose Rice said:
Darren Barr? Ian Black? stop being whiny bitches imo. He's moved up the ladder to the club with the bus fare.
I don't recall asking the question "who played in midfield for Hearts as they demolished their city rivals 5-1 in the 2012 Scottish Cup final?" but thanks for answering anyway.
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2 hours ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said:
We did, but in April, so there was no question of him coming before the end of the season
2 hours ago, Kyle Reese said:Ah, that makes sense now, thank you. Knew there was something.
We announced him right after it was confirmed we were top six and Livi bottom six, meaning we were no longer competitors and wouldn't be playing against them. There were rumours that it was a done deal several weeks beforehand.
I was quite happy to keep Souttar for the rest of the season rather than accepting six figures when it looked like he was going to England. Definitely not of that opinion now, gone as quickly as possible please, and I'm not that arsed whether it's for 50k or 500k.
I'd imagine we'll bring in a replacement when he goes, but I also wonder if Atkinson is effectively that replacement, given he frees up Moore to play his main position at RCB, which is probably also Smith's best position. I do still think we'll bring someone in, but it'll be someone who can cover across the back three rather than a like-for-like.
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Checks out with his Twitter likes.
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5 hours ago, paranoid android said:
I think I read that that the Japanese lad is getting a call-up to the international squad, which could lessen our chances of getting him.
See Halkett has agreed a deal to stay on - need to tie Kingsley up as well.
If Souttar goes, we'd have Halkett, Kingsley, Moore, Smith, Cochrane, and maybe Haring and even Halliday to plug the gap.
The call-up happened several weeks ago and the games have since been cancelled, so it's not happening anymore. I think it was a squad entirely composed of home-based players so it wasn't their first team either.
Ultimately there's not much we can do if his current club doesn't want to sell. Hopefully this doesn't go the same way as the Elijah Adebayo deal last January (waste time negotiating with a club which doesn't want to sell, end up with Gnanduillet instead).
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51 minutes ago, Ric said:
"reasonable chance", is the operative word there. Isn't that the point with these things? You are making a judgement call based not only on the team involved but the odds being offered. At 250/1 it's the largest jump and clearly from the money already placed, it's the divide between who is likely to be involved in the relegation dog fight and who isn't.
As I say, I don't gamble, I see little point in throwing money away.
Not really, because that "reasonable chance" is predicated on the extremely unlikely scenario in which they lose every single remaining game. If you take "reasonable chance" as the operative words there then you've definitely missed the point.
If you want the value bet then you're looking for 1) something that can realistically happen and 2) something where the bookies' odds are longer than you think they should be.
Motherwell finishing 12th fails on 1), but St Mirren finishing bottom at the bookies' implied chance of 6.7% arguably fits both criteria, even though I don't expect it to happen.
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3 hours ago, Ric said:
I do not gamble, so this might be completely wrong, but for "value" surely Motherwell is the best bet there? Not saying Motherwell will be relegated, just that at 250/1 it's surely the best value. I could be completely wrong here, I really know next to f**k all about gambling.
Motherwell could lose every one of their remaining 18 games and still have a reasonable chance of avoiding bottom spot. It's not value if it's definitely not happening.
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On 28/12/2021 at 23:41, Snifter Pee Rot said:
Shame Hearts only biggish MV on it is a loan.
"We have a forward who's valued at £3m on transfermarkt.com, do you?"
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6 minutes ago, juvehearts said:
Confirmed soapy signed a pre contract with Blackburn rovers. Trebled his wage.
20% sell on clause included.
Where is that confirmed and why are they giving us a sell-on for a player who's out of contract?
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1 minute ago, Snifter Pee Rot said:
Stats say an even game and Ross C should have equalised. A bit jammy as usual.
They really don't. xG was 1.76 - 0.73 in our favour. We'd scored twice and hit the underside of the bar and the inside of the post before Ross Country had their first chance of note on 72 minutes. They put us under pressure for the last 20 but only had one proper chance in that time. We also had a total makeshift team on the pitch by that point.
I don't think we're stick-ons for 3rd, by the way. 5/6 point leads can disappear quickly and a lot will depend on what happens with Souttar/Halkett and incomings next month.
Unusually for us, we seem to have developed real consistency against the bottom 6. We're unbeaten against them and have won 5/5 so far in the second round of games. That's coincided with a drop-off in results against the top 6: 9 points from 15 in the first round and 0/12 so far in the second.
Based on that, we really want to have things done and dusted by the split. One thing which might work in our favour in that respect is that Hibs and Aberdeen still have Celtic and Rangers to play before the second round of games finishes, while we've got St Johnstone at home. Also, once the derby is out of the way, we'll only have 1 away game left against the current top 6 before the split. We need to make sure we take advantage of those factors.
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37 minutes ago, Snifter Pee Rot said:
Not sure Hearts are a stick on yet. See what window they have but looks like we are going to push after them under Maloney. They were lucky to beat Ross County on Sunday.
We could have been 4 or 5 up before County pulled one back.
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OFFICIAL HEARTS JUGGERNAUT THREAD 2020-
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"Post hoc ergo propter hoc" has never been more applicable. He wasn't even starting games before he got injured.
I was actually amazed he played as many games as he did in that second season. I don't remember him doing anything at all aside from that Auchinleck game.