Clyde01
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Dirty deeds done dirt cheap
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Surely uefa could start by saying there will be no champions league or Europa league for season 2020/21. That would free up a hell of a lot of midweek slots and make next season manageable even if the start is delayed. Uefa could potentially play the remaining ties from this seasons competition as a filler throughout the season. Given that the early qualifying rounds start in about 2 weeks I think cancelling these is pretty much inevitable.
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I'd be quite happy to get promoted out of this league with any evidence that we were ever in it expunged from the record books.
We can’t allow the records to be expunged as now that the season is ‘finished’ we can state with certainty that Falkirk lost every league game against Clyde [emoji41].1 -
Heard a wee rumour that may or may not be from spfl mouth directly about plans for a 16/16/16 league set up under the reconstruction plans being thrown about.
Just look at how good that would be. Personally think this will save Scottish football and make people interested in their clubs again.
Top tier of:
Celtic
Rangers
Motherwell
Aberdeen
Livingston
Hibs
St J
Killie
St mirren
Ross county
Hamilton
Hearts
Dundee utd
Inverness
Dundee
Ayr
Second tier of:
Dunfy
Arbroath
Morton
Alloa
Qots
Partick
Raith
Falkirk
Airdrie
Montrose
EF
Dumbarton
Clyde
Peterhead
Forfar
Stranraer
Third tier of:
Cove
Edin
Cowden
Queens
Elgin
Annan
Stirling
Albion
Brechin
Brora
Kelty
Fraserburgh
Bonnyrigg
Inverurie
East Stirling
Sign me up now
For a start on points per game the top 3 in the lowland league are kelty, Bonnyrigg and bsc Glasgow. In the same way the highland league would be brora, Fraserburgh and Rothes. So you’ve promoted the wrong teams.
What’s happened to Stenny have they gone out of business already?
How would leagues of 16 work exactly? Only play twice that’s only 30 games. Introduce split would be too many games so probably need to be some kind of mini-leagues/playoffs system.
Can’t see why the premier league would ever agree to voting that through to be honest. Despite what fans would want.0 -
As we made clear in our statement on Friday afternoon, it is a time for integrity and impartiality within Scottish football.
Integrity such as misleading other championship chairmen to gain an insight into how they were voting.
Integrity such as asking for your vote not to be counted once it was revealed to be decisive.
Impartiality such as using your questionably established position of power to negotiate friendlies or benefits directly for your own club.
What a load of horse shit.8 -
Surely this can’t be allowed to drag on now that everyone knows this is Dundee’s hands. They shouldn’t be able to broker private deals to benefit them to vote a particular way.
The SPFL need to come out and say they’ve made a colossal howling c**t of the whole thing and it’s now void.5 -
Surely Barry Ferguson will refuse the title due to ‘sporting integrity’.
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Think Gordon Smith has a good idea in going 14-14-14 for a season 2 up from Championship 6 up from league 1 and the rest in bottom league
Why is that a good idea anyway?
It doesn’t remove the need to play teams 4 times a season as a split would be needed so why bother changing the current system. I’m all for changing to something better but what benefit does 14-14-14 actually bring?0 -
The match in question ended up going down as a 3-0 defeat cause we fielded an ineligible player
How could I forget
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Think Gordon Smith has a good idea in going 14-14-14 for a season 2 up from Championship 6 up from league 1 and the rest in bottom league
So it’s ok to drop Clyde, Peterhead and Forfar into the bottom league and deny cove promotion?
Get that idea right in the sea.5 -
Bingo.
What was the issue with the goal at Hampden? I can’t remember.0 -
Even less reason for us to panic about getting the money in. Just get 350 fans to club in a tenner each and it's covered...
The point I was making was the amounts are absolutely tiny
Looks like east fife are due about 9 grand more than Forfar for being higher up the table so about 12,500. I very much doubt you are in a position where that money is not critical.0 -
Ann Budge made reference to league reorganisation in her statement today:
"Given that the Resolution is not yet approved and given that time is marching on, I can confirm that Hearts, either alone or in conjunction with other Clubs, will be proposing a Temporary Adjustment to the Leagues, aimed at bringing matters to a close in a manner that ensures no Club is financially penalised as a consequence of these exceptional circumstances"
So looks like a proposal will be made. Hopefully, it fails.
I think it’s more likely to be 2 up with no relegation that’s proposed. That’s the only model that doesn’t really harm anyone.
It’s not ideal as we lose games against Falkirk and raith replaced by cove and Edinburgh (so a major drop in away gates). No thistle either. But it’s probably the best of several far from ideal options.0 -
There's been plenty of posts from Clyde fans on the SPFL recommendation thread on 14-14-14. There has been nothing official on restructuring so nothing really for the club to comment on.
Any restructure needs an 11 to 1 majority in the premiership plus Clyde, Peterhead, Forfar and Cove would all be likely to vote against from league 1 & 2.
Promoting the top 2 in each league with no relegation is about the fairest way I can see out the current situation.
I think it’s a disaster for us and shouldn’t be allowed to happen with zero notice.
The thing that worries me though is Clyde, Forfar, Peterhead and cove are the only ones getting properly shafted. (Plus kelty/Brora). I doubt many will lose sleep over upsetting a handful of smaller clubs.0 -
16-16-14 could be a set up that might work promote current championship top 4 to top flight
Then current league 1 top 6 to a championship and then the rest in bottom league 1 with top 2 in both highland and lowland leagues promoted
Split the top 2 leagues after 30 games and do as they do in several european countries amd have a title/promotion group in top league with all teams starting on zero points after split then all games mean something after it with any team winning title and euro places and being relegated
Same in league 1 after 30 games any of the top 8 can go in 2 team promotiom and any 2 relagated in bottom 2 then bottom league could do same 2 top from a split and bottom 2 relagted
Any restructuring that involves jettisoning clubs who weren’t in the relegation zone into the bottom league can get in the fucking sea.
Plus if you promote the top 6 in league one that still only gives you a 12 team championship as you’ve already promoted 4 of them
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If your top two leagues are both 16 you’re using all of the teams down to league one. What then happens about cove/Stranraer which of them makes up the 32nd spot?0 -
Hanging the players out to dry like that is just fucking ridiculous!
They are not currently playing, with no prospect of doing so anytime soon yet are unwilling to take a 20% cut on their second job to help safeguard the future of the club. f**k the players there is a bigger picture here.0 -
A 14-14-14 setup would have everyone meet each other twice before a split, and then meet everyone within their half a further twice after the split. Gives 26 games before the split and then a further 12 after, a total of 2 extra games per season than the current setup.
Yes you still have some teams you would meet 4 times a season but theres plenty of variation before the split and a lot of the games after that could be very interesting....imagine the current L1 table if the likes of the top half were all playing each other every week at the climax of the season, would be great.
Agree it would work best as you outline with a split after 26 games. But don’t agree it will lead to much variation. You would play 24 of your 38 matches against the same 6 sides. Yes the post split fixtures will be competitive but it’s so tedious playing the same sides 4 times a season.
Also the team in 7th/8th after 26 games could be so far off top/bottom that their entire post split season is meaningless.
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Yes I’d be in favour of this proposal.
League reconstruction has been needed for a long time.
Ok, if you’re in favour give me one benefit that a 14-14-14 structure would bring over the current set up.
(Other than Falkirk getting promoted via the back door).0 -
Are you essentially saying it’s not really about what league you are in but who’s in it with you?
Yes, obviously that’s what I’m saying. Do you think we would be financially better off as a club playing in a league with falkirk, thistle, airdrie or Annan, Elgin, Albion rovers?
It doesn’t matter if it’s tier 3 on paper. We would be playing teams with far smaller away supports and financially much worse off. Contrast that to Dumbarton (1 place above us in league one mid table) who get to play all of the championship teams and the best of league one. You can’t make that sort of stuff up off the cuff, clubs need to know in advance what they are playing for.1 -
Can you explain how this is the case? My take on it is that any team who are currently in danger of being relegated wouldn’t be and anyone on the verge of being promoted would be
Whilst nobody would be relegated on paper Clyde, Forfar and Peterhead would essentially be relegated by joining the current 10 league one teams and Stranraer. The financial implications of playing out to away crowds in the tens are fairly obvious and there was no prior warning at the start of the season this would happen. It frankly smacks of making it up as you go along.
What are the benefits of a 14 team league other than short term appeasement of clubs?
We would still have to play 4 times which is the major criticism of the current system so what’s the point of going to 14s?1 -
Let's face it the vast majority are of the feeling that the season will not be finished including the chairman of falkirk and Anne Budge. It's the best way to alleviate the issues from this that needs thrashed out a lot more.
It’s an easy way to hide your own inadequacies by blaming the SPFL. The fact that Budge needs to accept is her team has been shite most of the season, a lot of the blame for that lies at her door for persevering with Levein for so long. She is trying to direct the wrath away from her and onto someone else.
A similar situation at Falkirk who should have coasted League One with the squad they assembled. Yes, the premature end of season is unfortunate but was out with anyone’s control. Having that clown McKinnon in charge for so long has really come back to bite you on the arse.
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Keep hearing people bleating on about the injustice on hearts and thistle (Stranraer too I guess - although less vocal) BUT these teams have been bottom for large chunks of the season. It’s not like they just slipped onto bottom spot just before football was stopped. It’s a bit of a brass neck to throw your toys out the pram over possible relegation when you’ve been pish and looked doomed for most of the season.
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Promote 2 relegate none is still the best way out of this. It doesn’t really disadvantage anyone apart from 3rd and 4th placed sides (who only had a 25% at best chance of promotion anyway). However if we accept the playoffs are cancelled regardless that takes away that argument. Promotion for second place is on sporting merit.
The only other argument against this model is the dilution of money in the premier league between 14 instead of 12 clubs but if this was for a single season only surely it’s not going to torpedo an otherwise reasonable plan. Season 20/21 can relegate 3 and promote 1 to reset. At least that way all clubs will be fully aware of what’s at stake before a ball is kicked, unlike the current restructure ideas being banded about.
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Null and Void the Season and reconstruct the Lower Leagues to two Divisions of 15, play each other twice, home and away, that gives you 8 less League games so the pressure of starting Season 20-21 up in time can be shifted out to late September, early October and we can also get rid of the League Cup and Challenge Cup for a year, if a National “All-Clear” is given before then then the Cups can be easily reinstated to be played to a finish in those 8 free weeks!!!
That probably sounds a great idea if you are a top half league one side, but if you are a bottom half league one side it’s a shit show.1
The SPFL recommendation?
in Scottish League 1 General Chatter
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Surely this reconstruction task force is going to have to get the job done fairly quickly as we now have Stranraer, Thistle, Hearts, ICT, Falkirk, Edinburgh, Kelty, Brora all in limbo. They won’t be able to budget or plan ahead without certainty on which division they will be playing in.