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What part of a straight yes/no vote do you not like?
We have been given a straight yes no vote.
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I'm impatient to get my first sight of a new Sevco 5088 Zombie FC shirt with Irn Bru patches on the sleeves.
Irn Bru will be delighted - they didn't know they were getting so many fannies for their ad campaign
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All their players leaving, the diddy's voting against them, the Motherland out the Euro's and Martin Mcguinness getting a handshake off the queen - it's the end of the world for your average Rangurs Man.
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Certain SPL chairmen been bullied by their baying fans and try to portray it as "sporting integrity". We'll see what happens.
Despite plenty of "baying" and the support of a pathetic pack of media diddies, the Rangers fans have achieved f**k all in all of this except display the misplaced arrogance that they are famous for. Better think of a new hobby for next season
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I might almost change the habit of a lifetime and buy a Daily Record tomorrow to read the splutterings of disbelief from the apologist hacks that thought this would never happen
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Well done Motherwell, although anyone know who is eligable to vote, rangers fans invited?
Anyone with £300 can join the 'Well Society and vote - it would be great if a few thousand concerned fans of other clubs that are denied the right join up
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Its not as simple as twelve hands going up, its got to last for awhile....
I wonder if they will make a wee ballot box, maybe a polling station.
Neil Doncaster sets up his "free and fair" vote.
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I would hope all Motherwell fans keep an open mind until they have read the material the board provides.
I think that is an important point. If the club are doing the right thing by giving us a vote, it is important that people at least take time to understand the implications of voting either way. I am personally interested to see what kind of shortfall there will be in the opinion of our board and how realistic it would be for that to be mitigated by the support or if we are just going to have to live with severe cutbacks. I am also interested to see what people's personal "threshold" would be - or in other words, how much of a hit to MFC is "too much" for each individual.
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How many members does the Well Society have?
I think around 800 - so a reasonable proportion of our core support
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http://www.motherwel...-newco-rangers/
As a member of the Well Society (Along with my two sons) I know which way I'll be voting!
Off with their heads!A really praiseworthy step from the club as they will know what the result is likely to be already - they should be rightly praised for their stance and it will hugely strengthen the credibility of the 'Well society I'm sure. It will likely be up to the fans to plug whatever financial gap is created if the "correct" decision is taken and I sincerely hope that everyone that has been vociferous about this is ready to do what they can - I certainly am. Proud of the 'Well and I hope other clubs can do similar in their own circumstances.
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There seems to be a strong defence of Rangers/TNR from Motherwell fans.
Is it a sense of sporting justice and fairness, or a lingering fear that their club might be retrospectively punished for shafting creditors too?
What's your basis for that? (I'm assuming you aren't referring to a couple of posters on P&B as your sample, as that would clearly be preposterous). Ask the Motherwell Chief Exec, Director Andrew Wilson or our Media guy Alan Burrows - all of them on Twitter and very responsive - what the overriding feeling amongst 'Well fans is on this - you'll get exactly the same answer as you would from an other club.
And Motherwell being retrospectively punished for exiting admin legally via a CVA 10 years ago - hmmmm - can't see that possibility keeping anyone awake at night quite honestly.
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I've got a log in on Kickback, AFC chat and Accies World. What's the big deal here.
Too far
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We can't leave page 1980 without remembering this glorious moment in Rangers' history.
Jesus, the telly was bad back then. When the choice was 3 channels and you have STV leading with A London Night Out featuring Tom O'conner, Jim (nick, nick) Davidson, Sheena Easton and the Krankies <shudder>
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Can't recall anything official. Just hints through press that sales might not be too braw at some clubs, although have vague recollection that Celtic said everything was dandy.
Motherwell were ahead of last year when they last reported...
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Did anyone hear well supporters rep stating on radio scotland that "if saying no to newco means other spl teams go to the wall that will be the end of scottish football" what a cock. Are motherwell the real new rangers???
I wasn't even aware we had a supporters rep - anyone catch his/her name?
Edited - see this was dealt with above. Still none the wiser
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why do you think the society will collapse from this? no one i know in the society will abandon it no matter what way we vote. i don't think their is massive correlation between society members and outraged forum posters.
also no one can get their money back now anyway and most people will be fully paid up.
The main point is not really the existing members as such - they have our cash. The 'Well Society has only just passed the initial milestone for incorporation but it still needs a lot more capital before the "overdraft" is fully stocked and the member numbers are sufficient to have enough board places to become a "fan run" club. I am working on the assumption that the vast majority of those signed up so far are the real die-hards in our support, or in other words, the easiest to persuade to part with their cash. The remaining people that we need are likely to made up of some similar diehards that couldn't afford it at the time and "others" who it will be a harder job to persuade. I would imagine that if the main selling point of the scheme is that we get a say in the big decisions around our club, these people will be become a lot harder to persuade if the club acts against the clear wishes of the support in general and the already paid-up members in particular. The clear danger for the 'Well society (and for the club as a whole) is that it is delivered stillborn and stuck with the current insufficient funds and a membership who will lack sufficient seats in the Boardroom to make a real difference.
I am cynical about boycotts and "ah'll no be back" as usually it is an empty threat - but getting people to actively part with their cash and engage with the Society is a different thing altogether - and that is what is at stake here.
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Page 1937.... The year Hitler invaded Poland and it all kicked off....
Very apt for a thread about Rangers.....
In 1937, the policy of Appeasement was in full swing - maybe more apt.
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A few months ago I was convinced they would wriggle out of it but the more it drags on and the more shit that comes out the more I realise they are utterly utterly fucked and even the corrupt Scottish footballing authorities can't wriggle them out of this. Absolutely brilliant!
I'm in this boat also - I cynically believed that a way would be found for business as usual. I just couldn't conceive of how damaged they have turned out to be and just how many breaches there have been. I can't see, especially after today's announcement how anyone can vote for them in good conscience. To vote yes now would be seen as completely unforgivable by fans of every single club.
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Been out this afternoon... quick summary anyone?
Rangers have a case to answer on the dual contract stuff according to SPL..
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Why is this guy being given so much credence?
He was wrong re UEFA rules about going to court, despite being very vociferous on the issue. Why would he be right about this?
Exactly - he's like the anti-RTC - he seems to be on the wrong side of the argument on almost everything. Who is the guy and why is he being quoted?
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I expect the only thing of note to come out of todays lunch meeting will be the date for the Newco vote meeting.
And a Holding Statement - a really well written holding statement.
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TBH, think we might see a few attempt to start 'I Can't Believe Its Not Rangers' as fans factionalise further.
It would be absolutely fantastic if there were multiple new versions of Rangers..
We Are The People's Front
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What do you suggest? Ultimately they aren't in liquidation yet and the transfer thing might not be resolved for weeks anyway.
Club X will be fine like they did with Motherwell and Falkirk when we were in admin.
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Time for the Motherwell fans to ramp up the pressure on their board and tell them they risk empty stands next season and for ever more if they vote to admit a newco.
The problem is that the club will already be highly aware of the fans feelings on Rangers - but given that our Season tickets are already ahead of last season's (record) levels at this point, they won't be feeling the pressure from that direction as much as they might be in another close season. I guess the excitement over Champs League, etc seems to be trumping the Rangers stuff for a lot of 'Well fans.
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Off with their heads!
Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!
in Celtic v Rangers, Rangers v Celtic
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What does a football club's "means" entail if they can't use gate receipts for budgetary purposes? If you can't make projections based on something that a club has detailed records for probably going back decades, I can't really see an alternative when you take TV money out the equation. Pie sales are pretty fluid as well depending on the kick-off being moved for TV and what if people don't like the new strip or the local garage can't afford the hoarding they've had for 5 years.