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  1. 18 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said:

    We very rarely have a truly consistent season. Four out of the last six seasons have followed this pattern (18/19, 20/21, last, this) of disarray at Christmas ending comfortably in the bottom half.

    Possibly not borne out by the stats as I've never checked - but it feels like we are almost always a mess autumn into winter and then better from the turn of the year - I would call that a "normal season" for us over the years.

    20 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said:

    The other two have gone the other way (19/20, 21/22) where we accumulated points early doors before going on bad runs

    Whereas - I think this is the recipe for actually making (the lower reaches of) the top 6 - it feels like Robinson has done this with St Mirren the last couple of years, arguably Dundee this season are the same thing. Getting points on the board and then reverting to the diddy club norm has worked well for us in the past...

  2. Just in from the game - enjoyed it a bit more than the December version...

    I know Aberdeen and Hibs supporters have been doing performative "season's over" patter as a result of being in the Bottom 6 - but our recent history says that some jeopardy-free fitba can be genuinely good fun and the last 2 weeks have shown that perfectly. We've seen 9 goals, some of them as good as anything we've seen this season - so if you're liable to finish 7th or 8th regularly like us, best to enjoy it - and the fairly decent support we had up did that.

    The game was more open than I expected and County didn't do what Livi, Saintees or Accies (in the distant past) would have done by turning it into a shitfest in the hope of getting anything they could out of it - so there were lots of chances and lots of pish defending on show. It felt like we were the better team for most of the game but not 4 goals better - that was due to County giving it up *completely* when the 3rd went in (similar to Fir Park version in Adams last game in fact). 

    Hope County stay up - by far my favourite away trip (and I don't think our points total for next season could deal with Livi and County disappearing at the same time) - so good luck on Wednesday.

     

  3. 10 minutes ago, Desp said:

    I was at Clydebank in '95 when he played outfield for 15 minutes.  I'll defend him for life after being witness to those moments of joy.

    That was the Motherwell JFK moment. It was weird walking out the ground happy despite Van Der Gaag breaking his leg. 

    Woods was fine - but everyone was still missing the big moustache charging about the 18 yard box and fighting with his centre halfs.

  4. 1 hour ago, casinobay said:

    I've never been to the stadium but am coming up on Saturday.

    The website says the away fans are in the north east stand.....is that correct? I thought it was the north stand behind the goals.

    It's actually better being in the North East rather than being crammed into a corner of the North, which they did to us last season.

  5. I know "experienced keeper" is almost a meme by this point - but would there not be some merit in doing what we've done really successfully for every other position and go and mine English academies for someone who is highly promising but needs real games? I know there is an obvious risk involved in that - but I don't see that it would be any worse than getting someone well past their prime and on their way down.

    If the big book of rules says that you must have an experienced keeper - get someone like that in as backup to help them along and be able to step in if they need taking out the firing line. 

    I think this is almost an easy time to replace our Keeper, it's not Randolph/Ruddy/Gillespie/Sieb we are replacing here after all...it feels like after what we've watched this season,  the only way is up unless we really make an arse of it.

  6. 22 hours ago, capt_oats said:

    We have apparently never finished 4th.

    Almost an even split between top and bottom 6 too.
    11 Top 6 finishes, 12 Bottom 6 (13 including this season of course).

    2nd - x2
    3rd - x3
    4th - 0
    5th - x3
    6th - x3
    7th - x3
    8th - x4
    9th - x1
    10th - x1
    11th - x2
    12th - x1 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/f/falkirk/2931808.stm)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Motherwell_F.C._seasons

    Apart from the gloriously mid-table nature of that list - it's striking how few times we've finished in the bottom 4 over that long period of time (it feels like it's happened way more than that). If we end up 9th this season, I'm restarting the Kettlewell Out campaign.

    I'm convinced we finished 4th under Billy Davies when John Boyle was spending all the money - assume that was pre-split.

  7. Aggressively priced ticket bought - the website raising my hopes by telling me that a "discount coupon" had been applied and then dashed them by charging me the full 28 quid. Maybe i get a (wee) free haggis pie or something.

    I kind of like that no-one (including me TBF) expects us to win despite our form being decent enough, our record in Dingwall being pretty OK in general or the fact that we've scored the same number of goals as Livi and Saintees combined. A lot depends on if we're in carefree showboating mode (in which case we'll lose 4-3) or season complete mode (in which case we'll lose 3-0)

  8. 3 minutes ago, MurrayWell said:

    He's only played 51 minutes for us, let's see what he can bring after a full pre-season I'd say. 

    Are you new at being a Motherwell supporter? 51 minutes worth of sub appearances is more than enough to judge if a player will make it with us. 

    Personally, I'm looking forward to slating trialists in a pre-season kick about in a public park in late June.

  9. On 04/05/2024 at 16:07, Ginaro said:

    I don't attend Premiership games

    And this is exactly the issue - I'm afraid you have to live with it and spend a season (and your season ticket money) being ground down by it to get it. It's not something that comes over on TV.

    Last minute goals in a classic game like that Semi-final are about as unrepresentative an example as you can get. As something more down to earth - I was at a run of the mill end of season game against Livi yesterday and it took just under 5 minutes to decide on a penalty kick (and it was probably 7 minutes from the "handball" until the goal was scored overall)  - to the point that folk were booing even though it was in our favour. It was weird that there was then a really muted cheer when it was finally given - and I had pretty much lost interest by that point.

    The problem with VAR is not necessarily the big headline stuff - it's the sheer fucking monotony of constant interruptions/pauses and the uncertainty of what's actually going on when you're in the ground.

    Lastly - I don't think VAR has done anything *at all* to change the balance of decisions that teams get - stuff still goes for and against you in exactly the same way as it did in the past - but the path to get there is so much worse.

     

  10. 1 hour ago, capt_oats said:

    Forty (40) consecutive top flight seasons is it?

    Here's the first squad of this run from 85/86.

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    My first season watching us - Boyd and Gahagan aside,  I barely (or actually don't) remember a lot of these players on the stickers. The fact I've only seen us in the top league is pathetically important to me because my time lines up exactly with the current stint...

  11. I'm usually confident that the Premiership team will be too strong over 2 legs - but St Johnstone don't seem to have a functioning attack and (without looking at stats) it doesn't feel like they actually create much compared to other teams in the league.

    If it is them that ends up in the playoff and the Championship team score first - it would be a long way back IMO.

  12. End of season stuff can be fun when you're in no danger and I quite enjoyed sitting back watching that today instead of worrying about every decision.

    I can't help but feel - putting it mildly -  that some of these VAR decisions wouldn't have been going for us if the OF were visitors instead of Livi. Penalty was another farce - both in the amount of time it took to make the decision and the fact that the handball rule is fucking horrendous now.

    2nd and 3rd goals were worth being there for and we continue to score some absolute belters this season. We did try to keep the ball down and play whenever we could and Livi looked uncomfortable when we did it. I thought Gent and Miller were the pick of the bunch for us today - enjoyed watching them both and it would be nice to think that we'll be seeing them next season (but in the case of Gent at least, I really can't see it).

    Because it's been on the cards for ages - it was a pretty low key relegation for Livi, I was raging that not one player flopped to the ground and pretended to be upset at the end. Challenge for Livi will now be to turn into a team that has to win most games instead of not lose them. Well done to the young Livi boys for letting off the smallest item of Pyro ever seen in Scottish football - it was like someone had blown a match out and it made my day :)

  13. 27 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said:

    I love these guys so much. Leaving Dens with the score at 2-2 in their world must've been shite for them as everyone else got to leaving knowing it was 2-3.

    The weirdest thing is that a lot of these guys are absolute die-hards - you see them at midweek games in Dingwall or Aberdeen, pre-season friendlies, everywhere. It must be some laugh travelling the country specifically to be angry at a run of the mill league game.

     

    24 minutes ago, witchfindergeneral said:

    HAPPY CLAPPY, HAPPY CLAPPY

    That's one of those phrases that only exists on-line and sounds fucking ridiculous when people say it in real life. See also "mainstream media" and everything routinely said on Twitter.

  14. 12 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

    Accounting the value of the stadium is a big deal for me in the proposed take over of motherwell. Selling out to some American puts the future of Fir Park at risk.

    Has the guy got any history buying and selling land in his line of business? (genuine question).

    One thing I've always been sceptical about (more widely, not just us) - if buying and selling land for profit was your business plan, why in the name of f**k would you complicate your life by putting a top flight football club in the middle of your deal? There are lots of pieces of land about, and most of them don't come with a bunch of rabid lunatics opposing your every move and all the negative publicity and hassle that goes with it. If you wanted to make a return on land development, it would be one of the very worst ways to go about it.

  15. 54 minutes ago, ropy said:

    Presumably they are saying that Miller’s goal was correctly ruled out, strange.

    Was the Aberdeen one not the opposite of the Ross County decision from earlier in the season? (ie - against County, non-goalscorer handball in the lead up, goal given for County - against Aberdeen non-goal-scorer handled in the build up, goal disallowed for Motherwell).

    Not really getting how neither decision was adjudged to have been "wrong".

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