LongTimeLurker

Maybe a Shetland team could be Scotland's version of that.

This looks like explosives strapped to a commercially available quadcopter rather than something the Americans have supplied?

If, as seems to be the case, the HL and LL would have to sign off on the necessary changes to the Club 42 playoff rules, there is very little danger of this actually happening. The LL clubs are supposed to be meeting on Monday to discuss it. A clearer picture should emerge after that has happened.

The principle of progression is part and parcel of club licensing. If by some miracle the HL and LL are daft enough to sign off on this, the places for non-B teams would almost certainly be filled through promotion by on field merit. This is not going to magically make the pyramid go away so Cowdenbeath can be back in the national divisions again.

If the principle of progression applies as part of club licensing to play at the PGB level nobody gets a choice on whether to accept promotion or not, so there's no way in for a club like Cowdenbeath who aren't even close in terms of on field merit.

That would be because I fixed it in the time between when you started typing in your post and when you hit submit reply. Is this supposed to matter in some way? Think people are too downbeat about Bo'ness United's future prospects at the moment. If Linlithgow Rose get promoted courtesy of Beith not being licensed and the next manager does only a marginally better job of building a squad than Max Christie did this season there could soon be an uptick in interest again and at least one low four digit home crowd per season.

There was also the U-21 teams entering the Challenge Cup as an initial head of steam. The SPFL board were able to engineer that one.

Had already fixed that.

Darvel will plummet down the pecking order as soon as the Killie pie man loses interest. Bo'ness United are where they are now with no sugar daddy. Somebody asked on an earlier page what the BUs could offer a managerial candidate like Gary Jardine of Civil Service Strollers. The answer would be a club that could draw in relatively large crowds for this level of the game and potentially shoot for the SPFL if it could get its act together again.

Welcome to my ignore list again if you are going to waste my time like this.

To be fair he thought it was only one year because they would be in the SPFL by the following year. It wasn't one year and boot them out of the league system again.

^^^this guy nitpicks my posts like this all the time. What does it matter if it happened when he was vice-president rather than president or whatever. The point that was being made was that there was someone influential on the board pushing that agenda.

The SFA board pushed through the pyramid when their president was from Cove Rangers. The SPFL kicked up a fuss over the Club 42 playoff when they had a Brechin City officeholder influencing decisions. Rod Petrie has been keen on B teams in the league system for at least a decade. Doubt they have to be threatened or offered anything. There are people on the SFA board who clearly think B teams are the key to helping the national team and probably nobody who really gives much of a toss about the pyramid concept. As with LL East and LL West this probably isn't going anywhere but they'll have been seen to fight the good fight and that will help them to keep their blazers.

Looks like we have a handful of Cowdenbeath fans who think this is going to get them back into a national division somehow. Think the LL are meeting Monday to discuss this. Suspect we'll have a much clearer picture soon on whether this is going anywhere and there's not much point explaining the same thing to them over and over until then.

If it is legally SPFL League 3 then there are no issues with the 4 way agreement, but by all accounts that's a non-starter because of the Leagues One and Two clubs. If it is a separate entity in legal terms from the SPFL because of the need to bypass the need for approval by Leagues One and Two then it isn't the SPFL even if it is being administered by the SPFL in some way.

Not sure how seriously prorege on Nonleague matters should be taken after all the posts about Bonnyrigg Rose's ground but his take was: https://nonleaguematters.co.uk/forums/index.php?threads/review-of-scottish-pyramid-season-2022-3.8962/post-199253 ...League would comprise Colt teams and clubs from LL and HL should they wish to join. Entry could be based on LL / HL merit or by application. Could have one automatic promotion place to SPFL Div 2, with Colt teams eligible. Alternatively Colt teams might not be eligible therefore no promotion unless a non-Colt team wins the League. Current play off between Club 42 and HL / LL Champions would just become Club 52/54 v LL / HL Champions. The current 3-way agreement between the SPFL / LL / HL would need to be torn up. The question is whether or not there is enough in the plan to attract the member clubs of each League to do this...

They have all signed up to the principle of progression as part of club licensing so questionable whether they can but guess they could open it up to application.

There is a legal agreement in place between the SPFL, SFA, HL or LL so they don't have the right to do that unilaterally any more than they could force the EoS to agree that the LL should take the east superleague as a feeder.

This conference would be a separate entity from the SPFL so I don't see how that holds water because the league clubs would be promoted into would no longer be the SPFL.

So the plan appears to be something like this: Rangers B, Celtic B, Hearts B, Aberdeen B, Spartans, Stirling Uni, Tranent, Buckie, Brechin, Brora if it were to be pushed through by next season. The SPFL lower division clubs maybe don't have to sign off on it but the HL and LL presumably would if it changes the Club 42 playoff and I don't see how it conceivably couldn't. Think there is very little danger of the HL in particular voting for this.

Agree, but could they do it in an unbalanced way without admitting that something needs to be done to balance the feeders better? Maybe there would be B teams from Aberdeen and Dundee United? They could also let licensed clubs like Fort William, Golspie Sutherland, Lochee United and Tayport in to make up the numbers again.

That can be dealt with by expanding promotion and relegation places and having lots of clubs enter a playoff for the last promotion place like they do in the National League in England. On another topic, if they took the top 5 from both the HL and LL, a new fifth tier national division could look like this: Spartans, Rangers B, Celtic B, Stirling Uni, Tranent, Buckie, Brechin, Brora, Formartine, Fraserburgh Major question mark would be whether most of the HL clubs listed would actually want that.

Why would Hearts B get in when they have been an alsoran in the LL this season? Think up to 6 might imply something different from the scenario you are outlining. Obvious questions are why would the HL and LL sign up to this? Automatic promotion for tier 5 champions but with the added wrinkle that this could be a B team? And why would the SPFL L1 and L2 clubs sign up? Relegation into a national division with better subsidies than the parachute payments for Club 42?