ayrmad

Please stop waving the Blairite flag, Blair and Brown were a disaster, if you believe otherwise fill a post with lots of proof please.

You're only kidding yourself.

Yep, get to fcuk day is fast approaching, we'll find out if your Michelle Mones of this world are honest upstanding citizens or self interested windbags.

That goes some way to explaining his stranger views.

If you totally ignore the pied piper affect that can be unleashed within the ranks of the non voters.

I actually think the polls should be really worrying the BetterTogether camp, they've thrown the kitchen sink at YES over the last 6 weeks and YES are still higher than they were before they produced their "wishlist".

It's P&B, grow a pair.

They won power.

Nah, you can fire up all their great achievements if you like.

Brown and Blair were a disaster, it's not even up for discussion.

People like Benn and Skinner don't do party unity, if Labour had another few hundred that didn't bow to pressure we wouldn't be having a referendum, thank fcuk there aren't many with principles and a backbone.

The turnout will definitely be over 75%, I think 90%, others disagree.

An interesting piece from WOS, pretty much echos what I told my flapper of a son weeks ago. Last month there was a mild flurry of activity in the press about the so-called “missing million” – Scots entitled to vote, but who choose for one reason or another not to. Catchy as it is, the phrase seems a significant understatement. Around four million people in Scotland meet voting criteria, but fewer than half of those turned out for the 2011 Holyrood election, and under 2.5m at the 2010 Westminster one. pollbooths Obviously that’s a bad thing in principle in its own right. But it could also be seriously distorting polling for the independence referendum, because – perhaps for the only time in their lives – an awful lot of those missing millions ARE going to go out this September and put a cross in a box. And nobody knows which one. The Survation poll we looked at earlier today illustrates the issue neatly. It asked a question which explicitly noted that only 50% of those eligible to vote had done so in 2011, and asked its respondents whether they had or not. 74% of the sample said yes. nonvotes Alert readers will deduce that – not unreasonably – polling companies produce results tilted heavily towards people who are more engaged with politics. And that’s all well and good, except when you get to a one-off event like the referendum. The lowest estimates for turnout in September are 75%, and many are closer to 85% or even more. That’s hundreds of thousands of people who, like folk who only gamble once a year when they bet on the Grand National, we know almost nothing about. (Of course, there’s a flaw in those figures, because they too come chiefly from opinion polling. Nevertheless, few pundits are prepared to predict a turnout lower than 75%. The Survation poll we’re discussing records 86% of respondents saying they’re at least 8/10 likely to vote, and 90% if you widen it to 7/10.) Except we know some things about them. Non-voters tend to be those from the lowest income groups, the “C2DE” demographic. Which is coincidentally the same band that tends to be most in favour of independence. And even the simplest analysis of any poll reveals that these people are dramatically under-represented in samples. Indeed, they’re often not even tabulated. Look at the graphic above – the Yes and No votes are broken down according to whether people voted SNP, Labour, Lib Dem, Tory or other in 2011, but there’s no column for non-voters. We made some enquiries recently about doing a poll solely of such abstainers, but polling companies just don’t have enough of them on their books. If there’s an 80% turnout in September, that’ll be 3.2 million people – 1.2m more than voted at Holyrood, and 700,000 more than in 2010. Even if they only divide slightly more favourably to independence than those who turned out in 2011, their sheer numbers will make a significant difference to the balance. It’s just one of many reasons we always advise caution about polls. The referendum isn’t an election, and anybody treating it as one might be in for a rude awakening.

Obviously appealing to the shallower voters amongst us.

Yet your username suggests you're happy for other British companies to employ foreigners if/when it suits you.

I'm looking for a completely new direction.

My wife doesn't realise I've made up her mind yet.

I'm disappointed that IPSOS-MORI only questioned ~36% of SNP voters, 44% v 56% isn't scary enough for the NO campaign.

I would like to see the numbers of those polled in each of the deprivation levels rather than the 2 extremes. How do you get all the numbers for all groups in this poll?

I can tap them in all day if I get the right service.

Aye, and severe penalties for a NO win.

We've missed you XBL.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26291546 They voted on three propositions linked to the result of September's referendum: backing a "Yes" vote, supporting a "No" vote or taking a neutral position. The neutral option was backed by 18,025 votes, with 5,775 votes in favour of supporting independence. No votes were cast in favour of backing a "No" vote in the referendum, which will be held on 18 September.

I was just hoping to see what Mrs M, Ayrgirl and Honestrae95 looked like.