sparky88

Yes

In england noone pays a penny of tuition fees til they earn 22 grand.

She can and should hold a referendum, she won't if she's not certain she will win though

Given the SNP have been cutting themselves, using cuts to student grants to fund free tuition for middle earners for example, anyone joining to oppose the Tory cuts is naive.

Noone is stopping sturgeon having her referendum- it'll be sturgeon delaying the referendum anyway, with the way the polls are looking.

For the SNP yes, no one has ever joined the SNP to lower the council tax.

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We are part of the uk, there's many parts of the uk that don't vote Tory (or Brexit for that matter). If that bothers you, you'll vote yes. If it doesn't, you'll vote no. As it happens not being in the EU bothers me so I may vote yes, though through no particular affection to Scottish nationalism

Not bothered, though I think it would have been wise for Westminster to hand this power to holyrood in the Edinburgh agreeement since sturgeon won't hold a referendum she thinks she'll lose. Sturgeon would probably hold a referendum as late as possible in this parliament to ensure maximum time to win if she had the power to hold it on her terms.

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It's not but no one has stopped the SNP from holding a referendum as specified in their manifesto. The legal right to hold one rests with Westminster, if the SNP chooses to promise one without having the legal right to hold one its their call.

Yes it worked today. No one is stopping the SNP from having their referendum definitively.

She/salmond didn't even attempt to reform it. What's the point in manifestos if the party elected on the base of them cant be bothered implementing them? I don't think that sounds democratic

The SNP have broken their own manifesto commitments prior to bleating about the U.K. Govt saying they won't go by the snps referendum commitment. There should be a referendum before the next elections as per the SNP manifesto. Sturgeon will need a solid period of polls showing yes with a decent majority before even thinking about holding a referendum which will probably be nearer 2021 than brexit anyway

Why should the snp hold the moral high ground on manifesto commitments if they ignore their own? I don't think the SNP ignoring their manifesto is grounds to abolish the SP

They have barely touched it. their 2011 manifesto contained a commitment to reform it and sturgeon admitted in the Scottish leaders debates that the reason she hadn't reformed it was because she was too busy losing a referendum by 300000 votes. Not interested in being Scottish or British tbh.

What part of democracy is it when the SNP ignore their own manifesto pledges on reforming the council tax and cutting class sizes? The referendum buys the SNP a few years in which they don't have to do anything worthwhile to improve people's lives whilst keeping the subs rolling in.

You'd hope so, given the amount time Salmond spent serving up succulent lamb to Murdoch.

The Scottish Parliament does f**k all anyway apart from holding pointless independence debates. Seems a bit OTT as a way to stop article 50 being triggered though

Sturgeon knew that May wouldn't/couldn't agree to a referendum before the two year article 50 period had passed. The call for the referendum was designed to be rejected so that sturgeon could play the grievance card again.

Joanna cherry coming across like an arrogant cow

You said the SNP had a majority that would allow it to do what it wants- why were they forced to include a progressive policy by the greens in order to get their budget through? On independence they have a majority, but that's not what you said.

Tactically the tories made an error in not permanently transferring the power to administer referenda to holyrood with the Edinburgh agreement. Had they done that, sturgeon wouldn't have proposed a referendum amongst the brexit negotiations.

A majority to do what it wants? Might need to work on your maths, champ.

The only demand for a second independence referendum is amongst the independence supporter echo chamber. Sturgeon would be better off at least appearing to enact the rest of her own manifesto.