Chazza1910

Just listened to Jackson on Talksport. Jeez, I've heard Rangers fans' spokesmen more restrained than him. He showed his true colours. Makes you realise how these 'papers' have stitched it up for the OF for so long now. But their influence is gone. Now we know what's really going on. Going on about 'malevolence' 'putting the boot into Rangers' and so on. Guy sounded at the end of his tether. Let's hope he is, and takes the rest of that shower of Glasgow media shit with him.

Of course

Want to 'listen again' to this. When was it on? Ta

Ha ha. What a masterstroke! I'd love us to do that.

Well, you'd better tell Alex Thomson that. That's where I got the info from, I'm obviously not as bothered about the legal system as you are. And if you're older than me, you must be ancient.

So if the CPS investigating, is it just Murray and Whyte in the dock? Or is the newco implicated too?

Seriously, do the SFA/SPL know how big this is? For all their plotting, Rangers' fate could be taken out of their hands.

Are Rangers going to disappear completely now?

How can Celtic vote anything else but No if their fans are threatening a boycott of any clubs who vote Yes? Celtic fans boycotting Parkhead would be something else.

Now we know Club 12 isn't Rangers. Have they any fixtures for next season?

Inverness to vote No. That's five now, including St Johnstone and excluding Aberdeen and Celtic. Don't believe that the leagues will be carved up and no vote allowed. Where's the democracy in that?

I know that. What I'm saying is that the way things are going, these clubs that are stretched to the limit will succumb, just like we did. But maybe not. Best of luck. All this weeping and wailing about losing Old Firm visits is getting on my tits, to be honest. Rangers and Celtic seem to turn home fans off, as the matches are on TV and often a foregone conclusion.

Guilty of course. BUT other clubs have far bigger debts than we did when we went into admin. Explain that. The Weasel Club is expecting new members soon. Better than being a toad (MJ).

So tell me which bit you're disputing. OK, the Falkirk guy said you were trying to service your debt,. Fair enough. But MJ sounds like a desperate man, as if you could be forced into admin, just as we were.

Did you have any sympathy for us? If you did, that's OK, because Killie are a good club and Harkins is a fine player. But you're missing the point. Honourable option my arse. All clubs with financial problems are doing is avoiding the issue, as Dundee would have done but for circumstances. We are no better or worse than most other Scottish clubs and anyone would thinks otherwise is as big a fool as Mr Johnston obviously is. Toad.

Michael Johnston is a toad. And if Kilmarnock have been existing like this, it's time they faced up to facts. Dundee have no overdraft and no debt, but look what we had to go through to get there. So any other club that's been hiding behind overdrafts and debt, I've very little sympathy for you. The situation is exactly the same as ours, just that we were found out sooner.

I just think Celtic might lack something without Rangers around. Plus the others only have to negotiate one half of the OF now and put a good run together against the rest. Pains me to say it, but the best of the rest could be United, with Hearts' cutbacks.

Yep, remember Doncaster saying four OF games were stipulated by Sky, but have never seen it confirmed by Sky. Two more votes against and The Rangers have to go to Div 3, never mind these pathetic deals to save them. Newco HAS to start again on the bottom rung if rejected by the SPL. Think we're in the final stages of this now and I feel The Rangers might just hold their hands up and say 'OK we're stuffed'. They've no player assets (soon) and no money. They'd be well advised to accept a transfer embargo, so they'll be pushed to get out of the Third at the first attempt. I can see Green selling on to the Blue Knights, say. Green badly misjudged the situation and he'll do well to break even. What a blast this has been! Scottish football is the winner here. The Old Firm have ruiled the roost for far too long. Celtic will be lost without their big pals, and might even struggle to lift themselves for a title challenge.

Exactly. Could tell from Ally and CG's quotes yesterday that almost all their top players are away. They can't stop it. What D&P should have done months ago, but didn't because the Mighty Rangers are in cahoots with God, has now come to pass. And it looks like they'll have to change the rules to allow The Rangers into Div 1, as has been pointed out here. Because they won't get the eight votes and are duty bound to apply to the SFL for Div 3 membership. It might happen, i suppose, but it would be toe-curlingly cringeworthy and a real embarrassment to all the football authorities. Anyway, show me the money. Is there any left? Are The Rangers not £5.5m in debt to Green now?

Just can't see this Div 1 for The Rangers being accepted. But why in God's name are the SFA/SPL/SFL changing the rules to suit Rangers? They cannot be allowed to get away with it. It's a national scandal. Anyway that's just one half of the equation. There has to be a viable Rangers in there to survive as a First Division team. And they'll be a shambles of a club by the end of the week, as their players vanish and their money dries up. BTW is Off The Ball worth listening to this week?

The deal may be on the table, but will it get through? Chances are slim. Eight votes against, and it's out. That's what I call a fair voting system

That's assuming they can sign any players at all. Maybe you/they (bit confused there) would prefer a suspension for a year.

The Rangers will not be in the First Division. Anything else etc Anybody started counting up the eight votes needed to keep them out of the First?

Just read McCoist quotes about players who want to leave. Make no mistake, never mind what Green says, these players are free to go. McCoist is practically begging them to stay. And they start pre-season training on Thursday. Should be a jolly affair

Found this quite amusing from a Dundee fan on Dundee Mad worried about losing out to Dunfy for an SPL place. "I am not liking the way this seems to be heading and before we know it, we will be stuck in Div.1 with Rangers if we don't speak out" How the mighty and all that...think The Rangers would be delighted to be stuck in Div 1