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Not enough love for this wee gem of an insult imo. Nicked.

For far too long I've heard Rangers fans be apologists for the disgusting behaviour and songs of the (ahem) minority and of the enabling of such behaviour by the club (orange away strip for the "dutch contingent"...aye right) and I almost admire the requisite mental fortitude as the cognitive dissonance would have given me an aneurism. It's also long been the opinion of the majority of the rest of Scottish football (outwith the cheeks) that the Rangers support are, as a collective, vile and verminous thugs who are as welcome at your ground as smallpox. This is a real opportunity to turn the tide of public opinion in their favour by mobilising to protest this callous treatment of a victim of the worst type of abuse within the club. If a large group of Rangers fans congregated outside the ground with as much rage and indignation as we saw when "the big hoose must stay open" fella had his day, then even the most hardened of ***-haters would have to concede that there were some good c***s in the support. Hell, you could do it in partnership with a local charity that helps victims of sexual abuse. Imagine a huge crowd of Rangers fans and young kids standing outside, petitioning the club to honour its obligation to the young players in its care. The Union Bears could even lend them a banner already in use. "We deserve better"

Aye he's got a Trump-like tendency to spend too much time on social media while over-reacting to the content. I'm still irked at the way he threw Gauld under a bus after Setubal beat Sporting and then gloated on twitter. Arsehole.

In reality I'd love it if he moved somewhere that wasn't England. Scots players playing in La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga would give me such a stauner.

I'm assuming a whoosh. Well played sir.

I think there has to come a point where he accepts that this move to Portugal hasn't paid off, but I hope he gives it to next season and then makes some sort of decision. If another pre-season with Lisbon/Aves doesn't produce good results and again culminates in him having to try and break into another bottom third team then he surely has to cut loose from Sporting and see that they may only be holding him back. I'd love to see him back in Scotland, mainly because I just want to see good players playing in Scotland. I know that Dindy possibly has his tongue in his cheek, but I reckon that Killie and Steve Clarke might be what Gauld needs.

King seems to be getting off fairly scot free in the media, from what I've seen. Murty can't be expected to work miracles given the complete lack of funds he has to work with. King really needs to provide the funding if he feels (The) Rangers are to challenge Celtic at all. I suspect that the financial criminal is yet another in the long line of utter charlatans who have mismanaged this club. Don't get me wrong, it's all hilarious, but I feel sorry for Murty, he's an honest man and deserves better.

In Internet slang, a troll (/troʊl, trɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topicmessages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement. Found that wee gem in Wikipedia. Now do piss off and leave us tribal philistines to our discussions on whether or not Murty's currants will completely implode come the end of the calendar year.

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He's aggressive, but unfortunately looked miles off the pace when he played this season. He'll probably be away at the end of the season.

He's not merely "on the books" at Man U. He is starting in Champions League games and top level Premiership games ahead of Paul Pogba (when we're talking about hype you want to see how much heid rippin there was over that signing). Also, nobody is suggesting he will become a regular. There's a huge amount of straw-man creation on this thread. The response has been pretty sober. It's great that a player with huge promise has chosen us over England. The difference being that he has chosen. It isn't a case that he just hasn't been called up for England and has opted for us (my main issue with the Granny-rule players), but he didn't even meet with Southgate. People are delighted and encouraged by that. We're hopeful that he'll become a top player. Those in the know are thinking he'll be a top player (Mourinho rates him and trusts him hugely) so you'd forgive us for being massively excited, and we'd surely be allowed that. Nobody is massively excited though. We know that he might not kick on and he could end up being utterly average, but we're hopeful he won't be. I know that supporting Scotland has been traumatic over the decades (and I'm a Partick Thistle fan, too, with numerous relegations and being a bawhair from liquidation, so I get it) and that creates a certain cynicism borne of fear. We're afraid that we'll get carried away only to be crushed by disappointment. This is especially the case with players. Psychologically we may not have recovered from the 1970's, where we had teams packed with European Cup winners and League champions, and we failed spectacularly and creatively at each of the tournaments we entered. Hell, it could be argued that 1978 left a huge wound which hasn't yet been healed and has left us with a sense that any positive expectations will result in catastrophe.

Came on to this thread as I thought there was something new about RG, and was quite excited as there was a good page and a half of replies. I should have known that most of the replies consisted of one man picking a fight and de-railing the discussion. I ken that moderators check for trolling and abusive posts, but can they also do something about being utterly feckin boring? Pep, I genuinely enjoy your contributions to most threads, but you've let yourself down here mate. You're not the only one who spends too much time in schoolboy-level debate, there are others, but you should see that your tendency towards this undermines the quality of your other posts. To get it back on track, I too am concerned about Gauld's lack of game time and am still irked at how his spell with Setubal ended. I hope his lack of momentum, not being settled at one club, doesn't harm his development too much. I am one of those who wants to see more Scottish footballers playing abroad. I feel that Faddy, for instance, would have been better served going to Portugal or Holland than the premiership. In these days where freedom of movement in the EU is, for now, easier than ever, it's pretty disappointing when scottish footballers' vision seems to go no further than the channel tunnel. Hopefully the adventures of Henderson, Gauld and, until recently, Burke, are a belated commencement of a trend which will continue.

Genuinely thought your first comment was cringeworthy. This one saw my arsehole shrink to a decimal point. Brutal patter.

I was actually afraid that Sammon would go back to Hearts as he is absolutely a Levein type striker. Given that they have punted Isma I would suggest that this isn't entirely innaccurate...

This thread has now deteriorated to "I know you are but what am I?" levels of bawbaggery. Can we get back to how much we want Killie to be relegated and how seething many of us are that Well and the Dons have both managed to avoid it despite having finished bottom? Thank you.

Great thread. Naturally I'm wound up to the point of destructive rage. But credit where it's due.

For a man who was the arguably the best centre half in the league last season? I'm not sure about that. Given the market and the riches down south we need to start being stronger when it comes to selling players. Barnsley could have afforded 7 figures, but we sold him for 1990's money. I would wager that he's improved slightly over the last half season, but it shows how shafted we were when Lindsay can now be valued at £6m. I would be very disappointed in our club if we'd only negotiated a 10% sell-on fee. Celtic negotiated a 33% sell-on for Van Dijk and, given the paltry fee we let him go for, I would have expected at least 20%. 100th post and I'm a seething mess. Yaldy.

KT was excellent at LCB against the dutch. I'd have him and Lindsay, but obviously there would still be concerns having two Left footed CB's. Having Hanlon in the squad for that game instead of Liam was utterly risible.

Barton was utterly frustrating last night. Both he and Edwards were dreadful in possession. Edwards would immediately get rid of the ball, only occasionally finding a man in red and yellow. Barton, on the other hand, was just a complete coward and would just hide. At times this was literal and he would move behind a teammate or opponent to save himself from being passed to. When he did have the ball he dithered about and ended up losing the ball when there had been ample time to play a pass to a runner. And how the hell can someone with his height fail to win a single header? He didn't manage a single one. Liability of a player at the moment.

Selling the naming rights of Hampden to a huge company would be a no-brainer. The big German clubs have done this for the last 20 years and it hasn't diluted the passion or atmosphere. Get the private sector to pay for the rebuild of the stadium. Irn Bru would surely jump at it.

Hearing him lose the plot when Barry Wilson said McGregor had dived was wonderful. His outright bias in favour of Celtic should be an embarrassment to the BBC.

Just watched the highlights of the Hearts-Killie game (which looked superb by the way). The atmosphere in Murrayfield was excellent, despite being about a third full. It's a no-brainer for me, which means, of course, that the SFA won't go for it. I understand the thing about office space and the other things, but really from a fan's point of view the whole experience of going to the football will be much more enjoyable at Murrayfield. The transport links have been mentioned and are an obvious plus, the accoustics of Murrayfield are far superior to Hampden (you get that thing where you experience the sound bouncing off the walls when the old place is full and rocking), and it's within easy (and very, very pleasant) walking distance from the city centre of Edinburgh. Going back to the admin/office expenses side, I don't know what the solution to this would be, but other major football associations have their headquarters away from their national stadia (if there was no space for SFA offices at Murrayfield) so finding office space in Edinburgh (or Glasgow for that matter) shouldn't be hard. I've long felt it was ludicrous that a country of our size has two stadia for international sport when France (population 66.9m) has the Stade de France for both. Long term wouldn't it make much more financial sense than continuing with the status quo? For me the major consideration is accoustics and atmosphere. Even a half full Murrayfield is louder than a mostly full Hampden. A full Murrayfield is a cauldron. It'll be great.

St Johnstone too, without much doubt. What would your definition of a top 6 club be except ones who finish consistently in the top 6?

It seems we have a choice. We continue to play our football at a stadium which is fairly obsolete, but to which a lot of us have a sentimental attachment, or we accept a deal with the devil and play our football at Celtic Park (I could give a f**k about Ibrox, frankly, it's a terrible ground) as it is ideal in terms of acoustics and atmosphere. I'd love a new stadium, something modelled on Seattle Seahawks' Century Link ground, which was designed to maximise crowd noise. The facts are, however, that we don't have the money. I'd like to see the SFA break with tradition entirely and allow private capital to pump money into a new stadium in return for naming rights, seat sponsorship and other branding. I want the best ground we can get, one which gives the national team a distinct advantage in terms of crowd noise and atmosphere. I don't care if it's called Hampden Park or the Tesla Arena. A removable pitch would be a plus too, meaning you could have concerts without fucking it all up. I won't be holding my breath for the blazers to truly embrace the modern era and we'll still be playing home games at the old ground...