Sugar_Army

No probs. They have a toilet on the bus and with some if they are double deckers, you can book a table. I have used the in Bosnia, Croatia etc and in longer journeys they stopped at cafes to let you get toilet/fag/eat/stetch you legs for 10-15 mins. But as I said, a lot longer. We used the DB card (€19) for a return trip Stuttgart-Cologne and bought our tickets via Trainline and it was about £70 return (we got a £67 Airbnb) for the game against Switzerland.

Judge Judy would sort him out. She would also make his orange face tan illegal.

You could look at Flixbus and play about with dates/times but you then have to look for accommodation. Much cheaper, a lot but longer than the train and you still have to get into centre of town.

Good to know, fingers crossed.

Just got in as after 3hrs from 10qm UK time I in the waiting room, Uefa decided to block me (and still have). Despite emailing them they have not responded. So used girlfriend's phone with the knowledge that all Scotland tickets would be gone. Some random matches available at 200 euros each. No thank you. I will have a good time with the TA in the fanzones and about town thank you. Also taking the flixbus to Zurich and will be in their fanzone in time for their game v Hungary for the experience and staying in a pub that plays traditional music and never been to Zurich. If you have not got a ticket, just enjoy!

3hrs 11min and had a quarter of a green bar then it decides to block me! Basturts! Ah well, fanzones it is.

You can look at flixbus once landed or the DB Pass but remember to cancel it

Hang on in there mate. Or we can become fanzone buddies

Possibly. I think there maybe trouble or potential flashpoints as their FA told Uefa they were not accepting any tickets ( they have been fined/closed games before) so those who will travel will likely have uefa tickets, black market or none. They will still bitter about being on the losing side of the war so we will be fair game...and not be dressed in all black

I have been 3hs and got only about a fifth of a green bar. As others have said, totally random, you just have to wait and hope you get lucky when it is your time. I am lucky as I am sitting doing nothing, lots of people have work/kids/lives to be getting on with.

I am sure something will be sorted. They won't want thousands of Scottish and Hungarian fans randomly wandering about, a recipe for disaster. If worst comes to the worst I will probably be able to watch in my hotel but a pub will likely show it. We will be based in Stuttgart so have time to ask around.

Think they are set up to confuse and cause chaos so you get desperate and grab anything available and not think of the cost. Fazone will be a laugh, as will be the pre match.

I tried the Uefa ticket portal at 09.59 uk time. I had the captcha error about 10.20, got through that and have this over 2hrs later. Me and my mate will be in the fazone for all 3 games no doubt.

Douglas Ross of the Conservatives said "We saw off Sturgeon and now Yousaf'. I think he is taking too much credit, as a linesman he can't even be trusted to see offside decisions without VAR!

Some United fans have made the trip from the 1980s and you can't be bothered to make mere 4,000 miles? Shame on you!

Good call. We are there for a few days before that game so might find a bar, but I will try your idea.

Good to know about the smaller cities as we have a few other spare days. I do not drink but think my mate likes the odd glass! Looking forward to experiencing more of Germany. I have been about 4 times but all been mini breaks. This will give us more time.

Seeing there was no mention is here thought I would start a thread. Me and my mate are based in Stuttgart for two weeks. Going to Munich and Cologne on day of games and staying the night before heading back next day. No tickets (still looking) so it will be fanzones. I think Munich and Cologne will sort themselves out fanzone-wise but Stuttgart will be showing the Germany game while we play Hungary at same time. Hopefully something will get sorted as you could have thousands of Scotland and Hungary fans wandering about trying to find the match. Hungary fans have a bit of a reputation and there FA refused to sell tickets so expecting a few to travel without. Obviously there is pub/fanzone for other matches. Going to do walking tour, Mercedes Museum. Maybe the Porsche museum. Red hop on bus has mixed reviews. Any other suggestions? We have DB pass just now, will cancel it next week, so would consider trains or flixbus to other places.

Just booked some of my trip. Based in Stuttgart with my mate. Stuttgart to Munich is by Flixbus on day of game. Fanzone for game. Overnight in Munich In an Airbnb. Then going Munich to Zurich by Flixbus in time for Swiss kicking off and other games in a fanzone/pub there. Overnight in Zurich in AirBnB. Walking Tour of Zurich then Flixbus to Stuttgart. Train to Cologne using DB ticket on day of game. Fanzone. AirBnB that night. Walking Tour next day then train back to Stuttgart in time for some of the games. Stuttgart fanzone for game. We will pad out other things but as long as the main things are sorted. Will wait until a few days to go is case I need any more trains before I cancel my DB ticket. I have given up a few Airbnb's for the night of the games in Munich and Cologne if anybody is interested. They are just a double bed in a room. About £108 for two people in a bed. They knew it was two hairy arsed Scotsmen coming and they were OK with it. Ps. Thanks to Arch Stanton and Welshbain for their advice.

Pity it is only one. I am looking for two tickets for any of the Scotland games.

I do not think the players were nervous today, just bad. We have seen it many times this season. We had about 5 corners in a row that hit first man/never went to a Dundee United player. I never really saw the sending off but the ref got a good look and certainly was in no doubt. But as soon as it went to 10 men I think Ayr went more defensive. Up until that point they were always in it and we have suffered a few wonder goals this season, so anything could have happened. A draw would not have been an unfair result in a game neither keeper had real saves to make. At the final whistle we clapped the team but quickly fecked off to the pub. While it would take freakish scorelines for us to lose it, as far as I am concerned, until we are officially over the line it is not done. On to Aidrie on Friday it is.

Nicola will charge a fortune. I mean after all they will have that SNP party funds shortfall to make up and her husband will have legal fees to pay...again. Innocent till poven guilty though. Anyway, I asked that question when Scotland qualified so I am on first dibs!

No probs. Just going for the party. Happy to buy 2 tickets for any Scoland games (only at a reasonable price) but not of out 14 of our applications got lucky in any of the 3 ballots. Stupidly I gave up my Scotland travel membership a couple of years ago (due to various circumstances), I had it since 1995. Them that have tickets are the lucky ones. Could stay home and save a fortune but for Scotland fans big tournaments do not come around often enough. I was lucky enough to get to Euro 96 and World Cup 98 and those memories still live on.

Think that is only for people with match tickets. Not sure I will chance it not having any. . When I have been on my travels there always seem to be somebody inspecting your tickets. In Japan is was a train decked In livery inside and out...in Hello Kitty!

I got the Bahn card pass 2, but as I said, unfortunately my mate has not yet (Thursday), so until he comes back and gets one I cannot book anything. I looked at the Flixbus for Cologne as we at 10 mins from the airport in Stuttgart (dinna ask, my mate panicked and booked it when the draw was made) but think it can take 5hrs as opposed to 3 by train. But it is £30 return as opposed to about £100-£150. See what he says. 5hrs and saving £100 each would be worth it. I backpack a lot so roughing it is no issue for me. I did 25hrs on a train in China which you could not get off and a truck in Africa which took 22hrs!