RandomGuy.

Yes, in a discussion where you're trying to prove that players who play well up here, go down South and bomb, then return up to Scotland, won't be as good as their first spell, Swanson is the perfect player to highlight...

Never change, Dundee.

Stats wise, Jack and Halliday are virtually similar. I think Tansey is worse defensively than both, but better going forward, and in general, is a more rounded player.

Makes you wonder if Ross rejecting Dundee has forced them back to McCann with a higher offer, rather than face an absolute huddy like Stubbs or Pressley.

A truly shocking turn of events that nobody could've predicted

Worth remembering Stewart hit double figures in two seasons in the top flight. "one season wonder", though.

Im suggesting they all played well enough to be playing, but theres a sense of frustration when they're outperforming players in the same league but still get ignored. Clark being ignored despite outperforming Hamilton, is another example

Because its all done by agents, not chairmen turning up at managers hotels and accosting them in the pool. Its a completely mental story concocted by a group of journalists who have a swathe of history in this sort of thing, as they know fine well that fans of the Dundee clubs are utterly desperate for any news surrounding them. Its virtually identical to how the "Dundee journalists" pumped out rumour after rumour about Tommy Wright joining United, there was five different stories of release clauses and TW talking to Thompson within days of each other, despite our chairman repeatedly saying it was never happening. Dundee journalists have nothing to report on + Newsworthy story about Dundee club = Journalists all frantically making up stories to appear ITK so Dundee fans watch their site/twitters in hope of news.

You genuinely believe a clause like that has ever existed? Why would St Mirren ever agree to a "clause" which utterly c***s their negotiating position for absolutely no reason whatsoever? "We value you and your contract at £100k Jack, so teams will have to offer that to be able to speak to you" "Nah, if a team offers £18k they get to agree a contract with me and force your hand" "Yes, we'll allow you to agree to join a different club before we negotiate a price with them, thats great business sense"

So you're basing an entire prediction on a player on one mistimed tackle, taken from a game where he was ragdolled until then? He struggled physically in Serie A last season.

Hes not remotely close to being a "blood and snotters" centre half.

TBF Stevie May was completely ignored during his season with us, Mackay was the best Scottish right back in the country for nigh on four seasons and couldn't get near a squad, and we've now got Mark Reynolds, who can't hold down a starting place at Aberdeen, being selected ahead of Steven Anderson, who is widely considered the best Scottish centre half in the country. Thats not including the fact Murray Davidson and Michael O'Halloran were both red hot, and exactly what Scotland needed at those times, and couldn't get a shot.

I've learned you have to be specific when quoting you at this time of night, else you get dragged into a multi-hour dredge of a "conversation"

How? They spent an entire week pumping out the rumour they were signing him, St Mirren made a statement saying they'd rejected Dundees offer, Dundee fans continued with the rumours that they'd agreed a deal. Now we've got Dundee fans pumping out rumours they're getting Ross, St Mirren have made a statement saying they've rejected Dundees approach, and we'll no doubt still get stories about him joining them.

I've never once said it was.

I believes it because we're an established top four side who have won a major trophy under his stewardship, yes.

Do Rangers fans actually watch any of the players they're constantly linking with their club? Alves being described as an "organiser", Jack as a "Hard man" and now McLean as a "grumpy hard working midfielder". Literally every definition is the exact opposite of what they are.

Wait until you find out Hayes and Shinnie are apparently the two players he wants to take with him..

St Mirren are older. We're the "Saintees" anyway.

Yup, I can't see him leaving St Mirren for Dundee, its just Mallan all over again. The fact Dundee fans are all getting so excited about him being the bookies favourite, despite the fact hes only the bookies favourite because all the Dundee fans are building the story up to the point where everyones betting on him, is just what happens to them constantly. It'll be Pressley or a total "unknown"

Levein, who had his team playing "percentage" football at every level, and set up teams without strikers to try and shitfest draws, slagging the manager who just led a team to a finish ~20pts better off than the team Levein is managing? Tremendous.

He's turned down one or two League One sides in Summers gone by, according to folk on WAP, and I'm sure he admitted as much in a recent interview, where he admitted he wants a bigger job, and is desperate to manage in England, but isn't going to throw away what he has with us for a club that "doesnt feel right".

Aberdeen are too smart to go for Stubbs, who pretty much failed at Hibs apart from one good cup run. McLeish won't manage a club again.

Well yes, they grow slimmer with the ending of every season.

I think Neil and Lambert would be their top targets, as they'll likely want to copy the success they had bringing McInnes up the road. Then they'd look at Ross and Wright, and Ross will be cheaper.