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Yeah that’s as bad a first half as I’ve seen since we turned pro. Worst bit about it was I’m not even surprised. Had Dunfermline been more clinical, we’d of had a similar result.
Early doors but veldman isn’t up to it I’m afraid. I can accept daft tactics for one match but he simply isn’t learning from his mistakes. Shoddy recruitment bar Paton and blind faith in young players just for the sake of saying we have young players. The defensive setup is the worst I’ve ever seen it at this level
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4 hours ago, CoveRangers1922 said:
Feels like it's already ablaze. A large majority of the Cove fans would be glad to never see him again. Thing is our support is so small he's not feeling the wrath from the fans nearly as much as he would do at the likes of Falkirk.
He failed his remit last season spectacularly and is current failing this season too in nearly every aspect.
Will naturally be progression with Fyvie back. Even with his poor excuse of recruitment this summer there should still be enough "quality" to rise up the league from where we are now and get back challenging for the promotion playoff spots. I expect we'll improve enough, he'll stagger along until at least Christmas or more likely until the end of the season.
Personally, if we lose this Saturday that's more than enough for me and he should be shown the door.
How’s Scott Williamson got on during his loan spell so far ?
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6 minutes ago, DAFC. said:
Dom Thomas will have a quality game then go missing the next two. Rinse and repeat. And that’s when you play him out wide. Playing him through the middle…you’d be as well just playing with 10 men. Really shocked at how poor QP were yesterday, although we are quite decent, so shouldn't forget that.
In fairness, Thomas has been very consistent since he joined us, understand that wasn’t the case prior and probably a massive factor as to why he’s still a championship player in his prime years. Just typical he picked one of his worst, if not worst game against yourselves
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6 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:
I can’t remember which side Dom Thomas plays off either
He played off neither side on Saturday just there. We stuck him in the middle and was completely ineffective. At his best, he’s tremendous off the left side, linking up with Tommy Robson but we’ve proceeded to stop playing them both on the left side at the same time now and have since lost every game. Tactical masterclass
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18 minutes ago, QPEast said:
Just to be clear, I'm not criticising Thomson, actually its the opposite. He should be in the middle of the park where he excels. Also, having a lightweight Healy in the midfield three is not going work.
Fox was a player who bossed L1 when he arrived and a new messiah was crowned. He has came crashing down to earth since then.
Thomson was the only one who could come out of that game with any sort of credibility. Even the usual ones who play very well like Spong and Thomas looked out of sorts. Dunfermline fans mentioned on here before about Thomas’ game being nullified under Peter Grant due to being placed in the middle of the park. Typically, yesterday was the first time I’ve seen Thomas in a more central role and didn’t look anywhere near as comfortable or effective. Hope that’s the last time we see that formation.
Harsh on Fox I’d say. He had a dreadful end to last season but he’s easily been one of our better performers this season. I think he looks almost back to his usual self. Everyone was pretty much useless yesterday in fairness
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34 minutes ago, Velvet Donkey said:
'Do you have any concerns about the depth of the squad?'
'No concerns at all'.
Good on the interviewer asking that type of question at the very least. Too often in the past the questions are very safe.
The answer from Veldman is incredibly concerning however. I’m hoping it was a case of not wanting to openly admit on camera, depth being a massive issue and he’s trying to sort that in the background
In any scenario, we should not be scrambling around for players towards the end of September when we had an entire summer. It’s poor stuff
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38 minutes ago, Spider Rico said:
Yep his mate Marijn needs to take his share of the blame for the lack of squad depth. Scraping the barrel of the loan market is all we have left now but I don’t get the sense he is even interested in doing any more.
I think for Beuker it’s a case of either underestimating the competition in our league or overestimating the initial impact the youth players could make. What’s the point in putting such a large quantity of these young guys on the bench, knowing they’re not going to make an impact in the immediate moment. That’s not the young guys faults, they’re quite clearly extremely talented players who I have no doubts will be great in the future for us but the bench should be supplemented with a share of 1st team ready players, not teenagers who aren’t even close to hitting 20 years old yet. I don’t think I’ve looked at our bench once this season and thought wow at least ‘X’, ‘Y’ and ‘Z’ are on the bench if things aren’t going to plan
But hey at least football journalists can rave about us on Twitter about having the youngest squad in the league though
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It’s a shame cause it’s a talented first eleven but Ive blamed Veldman for every defeat in the league so far;
Partick - Robson after having an excellent performance against Arbroath at home, Veldman proceeds to drop him in favour of 17 year old Bruce who despite having massive potential, is still miles away from Robson’s level and that decision single handedly lost us this match after Bruce was crucified against Lawless and McMillan. Veldman’s fault
Raith- An absurd decision to bring on a triple sub of young guys, taking off experienced players at 2-1 up playing with 10 men against a very good Rovers side in the 80th minute. Unsurprisingly, we Chuck the game away. Veldman’s Fault
Today- Veldman’s fault
I know Veldman will be learning as much as the players but I’m really struggling to understand his thought process in recent weeks. It’s all well good seeing a nice wee intricate pass in between the midfield but if we’re scared to shoot at the edge of the box in preference of scoring the perfect goal then what’s the point
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Pathetic tactics from Veldman. That was beyond naive playing such a high defensive line. This isn’t youth football veldman is working in anymore, you’re up against a talented full time side who for the last 12 months are consistently winning games of football. Genuinely haven’t seen a match where a team got in behind us so often. Fair play to Dunfermline, they looked organised and threatening. Summers in particular looks an excellent player
Barry Hepburn playing striker ? Dom Thomas playing in the middle for large periods? Aaron Healy who clearly isn’t match sharp playing 90 minutes ? Bench incredibly weak with no sign of signings on the horizon.
Im not at the concerned stage yet but a couple more weeks of similar performances and results and we’re in trouble
PLEASE SIGN SOMEONE
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You’d surely like to think Veldman and Beuker are still trying to add a couple players this month. I thought since there was a 14 day period between league matches that we would have maybe had a new signing for tomorrow. Depth was an issue for me last season but it’s considerably lighter nowadays and already seems an issue. Although I didn’t think he was championship ready as of yet, still think loaning Williamson out to Cove was a stupid decision.
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11 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said:
Darren Lyon
Solid enough signing and a guy that could be here for years - pretty sure he’s a defensive midfielder so maybe that means Jacobs will go
I liked him at QP. Solid but unspectacular type who wouldn’t ever have a bad game but not the type to single handedly grab the game by the scruff of the neck. Him coming back from a long term injury was key a factor on gaining promotion to the championship imo. There will be games you might necessarily notice him but he’s perfect for games where you might be up against it. Solid signing
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Jack Thomson looks a natural at centre back in all honesty. He’s an excellent midfielder at this level but doesn’t seem to possess the goals to really reach the next level at this moment which is frustrating as he’s fantastic driving through the midfield and one of our most intelligent players on the ball. The biggest factor in Thomson playing centre back is that it seems to have sparked life into Jack turner now. Once Thomson moved back against Raith, Turner played a more advanced role and has now scored 2 in his last 2 and seems to be involved in the game a lot more frequently. We badly need goals from midfield so it’s a promising sign
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27 minutes ago, Broken Algorithms said:
Honestly buzzing to see Gilmour kick on again over the last 8-9 months. I was really skeptical that his Norwich spell ruined the spark and oozing confidence he had on the ball which made him so special when he initially came on to the international scene. In fairness, the skepticism was justified as his Scotland performances were suffering in that period. Even at the time of signing, Norwich seemed an incredibly odd move for his football development considering their continuous failure in the premier league
Regular game and trust put on him in a side that plays terrific football will be doing him wonders now. He’s completely different to any midfielder we’ve got and genuinely think he’s got the potential to be world class if managed properly
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1 hour ago, par-adise said:
2. decided to play him as a DM where he was unsurprisingly pish
That is utterly terrifying that Grant played him as a DM
Would love to know his logic in that
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9 minutes ago, HoBNob said:
The Championship is Doms ceiling, he has the talent to play at a higher level but his professionalism/attitude has put paid to that. KRH is a breath of fresh air in that he has the right attitude to go with his talent.
He might not be better than Thomas at the moment, but he'll achieve more in his career, and hopefully make us a decent wedge in the process.
You may well be correct with all of that. I’ve absolutely no clue what particular incidents he’s been involved with in the past that’s resulted in championship being his ceiling as of right now given his talent but just going from his time with us, the interviews from the younger guys in our squad, they’ve raved about Thomas’ leadership and professionalism in the dressing room which has been rewarded with the captaincy of the club. Think the penny has dropped now and he’s matured from previous years.
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1 hour ago, HoBNob said:
Mixture of falling out with Hughes and QP offering him a big bag of cash turned his head, if given the option between him and KRH though there's only player that's getting picked.
Genuinely don’t think I’d swap Thomas for almost anyone in the championship except for 1 or 2 players at most so will be interesting to see how your guy plays
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10 minutes ago, da_no_1 said:
I've read that over and over & it still doesn't make sense. A thank you to who?
My bad, might not have worded that as clearly
As in a thank you to the qp supporters for not playing in those matches. We were a poor team that season and had Thomas played, I wouldn’t have fancied our chances at all having seen him play for us the last year. Tbh I don’t even know if he chose not to play or he simply fell out with Hughes. The latter seems more likely given hughes history of losing the plot
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A Dom Thomas winner as a nice thank you for not playing in the playoffs against us when we got promotion would be lovely
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5 hours ago, McGuigan1978 said:
If he thinks Charlie Fox was getting back, then fair enough, but considering he's a bog standard, meat and potatoes central defender who is fairly slow
Whether it’s a red or not, that’s arguably the most inaccurate description I’ve seen regarding Charlie Fox as a player. Aye he struggled massively last third of the season (as did everyone tbf) and his borderline assault of a red card at starks last season probably helped reinforce your description of him. There was also an adaptation period in the early cup matches regarding style of play but he’s generally excellent on the ball and has brilliant recovery pace which are arguably his biggest assets. Would go as far to say he’s one of best ball playing centre backs in the league. He just had to get his confidence back on the ball after Coyle destroyed it. Interesting how others see players, game of opinions I guess
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1 hour ago, Spider1975 said:
I'll take that
I can only think about looking up the table once we can become detached from 9th and 10th by a considerable margin. Early days of course but it seems to be a bit of a circus at Inverness and I’m not convinced with Ayr at all
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48 minutes ago, R.R.FC said:
How has Barry Hepburn been for QP? Was Saturday the norm or just a bad day at the office?
Thought McKenna and Spong were the clear standouts for Queens Park. As a Scotland fan, McKenna’s performance was very exciting. Calm and composed on the ball but made some excellent saves and even dealt with a few crosses well. Certainly doesn’t look like a 16 year old both in terms of performance and stature.
Spong hardly gave the ball away all day and has that gift of always seeming like he has loads of time on the ball due to his ability to find space. Looked a class act.
I like Hepburn. Naturally he’ll get attention from opposition fans a bit more considering the club he’s came from but he’s a very talented boy and he’s done well overall so far but he’s incredibly lightweight. Having someone like him on the pitch with 10 men against an experienced side away from home, he was always going to struggle
Aye Spong has been our best signing so far IMO. Was worried we couldn’t replace Mal Boateng but I’d goes as far to say he may end up being even better than him. Thankfully compared to Boateng, he’s on a permanent contract. You can tell by the way he plays, he’s been brought up in the Brighton academy
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47 minutes ago, Velvet Donkey said:
I don't disagree with this, but I think there's enough promise in Turner's game for development, and do think there is a place for Longridge.
A harder one to resolve for me is Ben McPherson. He offers a lot in attack, but not really convinced he is the answer defensively. A bit disappointed in no activity before the deadline, but now I'm worried that Veldman believes the squad is complete.
I dread the day Paton or Thomas get injured. We’re absolutely done if either are out for any extended period across the season
Makes loaning out Williamson utterly bizzare
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I think a massive difference in going 2-1 up was the introduction of Louis Longridge at half time. Brought so much more control and most importantly experience to the side and seemed to calm the team down (until the 80 minute substitute madness). He’s been unfortunate to not have started more and I think he deserves a start for Bala next week. Looks a totally different player, seems so much sharper, he’s certainly proving me wrong
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It’s just never red is it. It’s a very obvious yellow card and until Byrne started going over to the ref, none of the Raith players around the incident are calling for the red. Even when you look at Callum Smith, he’s not calling for it until he sees Byrne running over. Fox is covering in behind and considering the area of the pitch, It’s a very poor decision from the ref
The game management from 2-1 up is what enrages more than anything
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Queen's Park vs Ayr - Friday Night Fitba'!
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Quite simply we’ll be relegated if we continue to play anything like this. It’s only September but every single team in this league know to play against us and the coaching staff are either too arrogant or blinded to adapt to the opposition. At 2-1, despite the dreadful start, you surely just try and stay somewhat compact as there’s still loads of time to get a result but no, the brainless high line tactic was exposed to its maximum and Fox was like the invisible man when Rose faced him 1v1. The 4th goal is just diabolical all round from Fox
Even at 4-2, there’s time to at least try and attempt to gain an unlikely draw but we’ve shot ourselves in the foot instantly yet again with some outrageously bad decision making from McPherson and tizzard playing everyone onside.
In terms of the goals conceded, I don’t think I’ve seen as many self inflicted goals in one match. We have defenders who’s first priority isn’t defending and more so, the lack of energy or desire to get the ball back was extremely concerning. Completely lifeless, almost as if the players are frightened to bits if they do anything that’s not part of this ‘philosophy’. I’d love to know how much these players truly buy into this system
Serious question marks on Veldman now and whether he’s got it in him to admit something is seriously wrong with his setup and whether he’s willing to adapt it. You can still play nice football with a defensive structure. Whether he’s got the credentials to implement that remains to be seen in any form
Only positive I can take is that Paton is continuing to hit the back of the net. 9 goals in all comps already playing in this system is incredibly impressive so fair play to him. Hepburn’s goal was belter but again I think Veldman is misusing him and Thomas. Thomas is clearly better on the left and Hepburn is miles better on the right.