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3 minutes ago, Believe The Hype said:
Does anyone know the players included this year ? I had last years one and ended it with having to look at gasparottos fat puss.
Gallacher, Taiwo, McKee, Hippolyte, Thomson, Sibbald, Harris, McGhee, Austin, Miller, Grant, & O Hara. (In order from Jan to Dec)
Players are picked by the sponsor whose logo goes at the bottom of each month and whose premises the players are photographed in for the inset picture.
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12 minutes ago, Rugster said:
It seems our 2018 calendar has Kevin O'Hara listed as Alex O'Hara and some of them have a bit of tape over the Alex bit signed by O'Hara to cover the faux pas, but some don't. Wonder who proofed that, they should really have kept a closer eye on it. Bit embarrassing.
Leaving aside the DS reference, it was a design/printing error which the club didn't pick up on. For that reason every calendar got the tape and signature.
I was in the office at the time when the person responsible asked Kev if he would autograph hundreds of calendars to make up for it. To be fair to him, not a single bad word escaped his lips. He's a good lad despite what the Fifers say about him.
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1 minute ago, Boh said:
SJ
Not sure. Possibly CBYou got the first part right anyway, which lends you a wee bit of credibility. Let's leave it at that.
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19 minutes ago, Boh said:
Thanks. He’s been training with the squad each day as normal. Then doing extra work in the afternoon with the gaffer and fitness coach for fitness. March sharpness of course will be a different matter.
The new players were excellent at the weekend, Kevin hopes to work his way back into the squad and to work and learn with his new teammates.Pretty sure this is a windup. though fair play to you for coming up with a username which is the same as Kevins dads initials. If it IS a windup, that's actually a bit scary.
I think a little test is in order. Tell me Boh, which one of your work colleagues has a role at FFC and what is that role? And who did Kevin room with when we were in Budapest last summer?
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9 hours ago, Bigbrbairn said:
Is he not away on the 14th?His loan was extended to the 19th, as the club didn't get a chance to assess him properly due to postponements. Now that they have, and he's playing well, I think it's reasonable to assume we'll want to keep him for longer.
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8 hours ago, gav-ffc said:
Tyler Reid off to Newport county.
I asked about him last week; he was never training nor on trial with us. No idea where that rumour came from. Though given that Tumilty's turning out to be extremely decent rightback, I don't think filling that position is a priority anyway.
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20 minutes ago, Bofabairn said:
Seems to be a dearth of rumours, or news coming out of the club. So much for the Hartley revolution.
Four departures (six if you count loans), three arrivals and an extension. That's not a bad start considering it's only the sixth of January.
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21 minutes ago, CallumPar said:
I could be wrong, but I think strict liability is in relation to clubs being responsible for the behaviour of their fans. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dunfermline do receive some sort of fine for not taking appropriate measures to prevent these items being taken into the ground. Guys clearly got in with bags/pockets full of them, which suggests real negligence of duties by police/stewards.
Certainly, when we travel to Falkirk, a lot of fans are searched before entering the stadium. I don’t know if that was the case yesterday, for Falkirk fans or not.I'm not au fait with match safety regulations, but from a health and safety perspective (which will be similar) you have to prove that you acted in accordance with any guidelines and did everything that could reasonably be expected on you.
To answer RBs post before you, I suspect the majority of the liability would lie with Dunfermline but not all of it.
FFC would need to advise DAFC in advance of any groups or individuals whose behaviour was already a concern, probably give details (pictures?) of anyone who had banning orders or court action pending, and basically do anything they could to help Dunfermline identify those most likely to misbehave.
It's then up to the home team to decide what action to take, such as body searches or increased scrutiny of specific fans once they get inside the ground.
I know there are meetings between opposing Match Safety Officers every midweek before their respective teams play each other, but unless you have time to do a full body search of everyone who comes in, it would be very difficult to stop this sort of thing. And even then, the "eyeballs" thrown yesterday were small enough that you could carry a couple down the insides of your boots.
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Just now, Grant228 said:
Huh uh, we've had a few fans fined and banned for a few things over the years.
You're going to have to be very, very specific about what this actually has to do with the incidents yesterday though.Maybe the fact that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?
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13 minutes ago, Senor Bairn said:
Agreed, was going to ask, is there CCTV facing the fans in the away end? It might be quite hard to find them anyway, doesnt really take a lot of motion to throw a wee bouncy ball.
I know of an incident recently where our of our fans was done for letting off a smoke bomb at an away ground. The person was easily picked out afterwards on CCTV, despite being a "loan wolf" and there being no prior bad behaviour from them to give an indication as to what they were about to do.
In a match like that, with a high likelihood of some form of incident, I imagine the crowd were being monitored very closely by the cameras. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the culprits were already known. Given that throwing missiles onto the pitch is a criminal offence I suspect a few folk will be getting a knock on the door from mr plod during the coming weeks.
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Just now, billyg said:
You mean , like the two players , who missed 8 and 4 games , who couldn't possibly be punished for their obnoxious actions as it wasn't seen by the ref or officials , but were reported by an opposing club source after the match ? Your cub's in hot water here , probably due to the subject matter , no type of punishment is off the table !
Nonsense.
Players are subject to disciplinary proceedings from the governing body under existing rules.
There are no rules to punish clubs for the behaviour of their fans in domestic football.
And even if there were (if Strict Liability had been brought in) the governing body would have had to prove that Falkirk were negligent by allowing it to happen.
How exactly do you prevent this happening? Full body search for every single fan who enters the ground?
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4 minutes ago, GMBairn said:
I'm waiting for the 12.01 club media update with all of the moves in and out confirmed.
Don't hold your breath.
There will be ongoing updates throughout the window as things are finalised, but I wouldn't expect anything tonight.
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8 minutes ago, Bigbrbairn said:
There is a depressing lack of insider knowledge on this forum at present ( apart from revealing the board want to kill each other). Come on if we are going to have new players by early January ( Hartley quote) one of the stalkers MUST have seen a few unknown fit young lads hanging about. WHO?
That's one of the things that seem to have changed under Hartley. It used to be that once a player came in on trial his name invariably leaked out on either here or one of the facebook pages. Nowadays secrets seem to remain secret. For example, nobody knew that Tommy Robson had been on trial until we signed him. I wonder if our team have been warned to keep their traps shut.
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17 minutes ago, kiddy said:
More important to keep @falkirkfcf schemes going. CMIIW but aren't they self sustaining?
Eh?
FCF is the Foundation. It's of no importance to the first team that we all grew up supporting, given that it's basically a charity which provides football for everyone regardless of age, sex or ability. None of the folk involved in that will ever play for Falkirk. Or at least it's highly unlikely.
I'm not knocking them; I've spent a lot of time helping their activities, including travelling all over the country with one of their teams. There's a lot of very, very good people involved with the Foundation. But at the end of the day they provide amateur and childrens football which won't be of interest to the majority of fans.
And yes, I think they are self-sustaining. They're also an ongoing link to the local community, which, according to some of the more excitable recent facebook posts, were severed forever by the decision to stop funding FVFA. I know a few parents who've become diehard FFC fans simply because their children have been on Foundation programmes.
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12 hours ago, Back Post Misses said:
Clearly changes were required and overall I have much more beef with how this has been communicated than the business decision. I just don’t think it is right to have the press tell people. At least have the good grace to inform staff, parents and kids first.
I totally agree with you on the press bit.
In theory I agree with you on the staff / parents / kids bit, though I'm not sure how practical it would be. Within seconds of giving out the news someone would put the story on social media and then the club would be getting slaughtered for not making any official comment. The two things would need to be done simultaneously.
I believe that the BOD of FVFA were told in advance of the story coming out, which would almost have to be the case as there will be things like notice periods and termination clauses in any contract. I don't know how much advance notice they got and I have no idea why nobody appears to have prewarned the staff. The fact that some of those staff later posted their frustrations on a Falkirk fans forum demonstrates how badly awry the communications were.
Not a good day for the club, the Academy or the people who've invested so much of their time and energies into making the whole thing work.
I just hope the gamble pays off.
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1 minute ago, Back Post Misses said:
If I was betting in think the U20’s will go at the end of the season too.
I think the U20s were always going BPM, simply because there will be no U20 League. There will be U18s for Project Brave clubs, plus reserves for them and everyone else. Or at least that was the state of play last time I asked a few months back. Happy to be corrected by someone who has more up-to-date information though.
So if there was no U20 League, and we'd decided to stay with FVFA, then any 16-year old we signed from them next May would have been playing in a reserve league come August. Against potentially a team full of 35 year old Simon Mensing-type cloggers. I doubt many would have thrived in such an environment.
As an example of that, I'm not long back from our U20 game at Kilmarnock tonight. . We played an extremely young team, with no first team players and probably no-one over 18 or 19. While Killie had a few older heads in their squad. We lost 6-1 and were probably fortunate that it wasn't a hell of a lot more. They were absolutely miles ahead of us. Many of those boys will still be around next season. If tonight was hard, next year will likely be even harder, though at least they'll (presumably) have a lot more experienced players in beside them.
Assuming we field a reserve team of course.
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1 hour ago, Rugster said:
BSLM not wearing any kind of club gear or club xmas jumper. Says it all. #rebelinthedressingroom
He had the same white FFC hoodie as Pedro, Aero, and Jordan.
Fuxake does that mean we've got four rebels now? Things are getting worse.
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4 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said:
*** Nit picking - Balatoni isn't on loan.
Fair enough. Let's change that to "players who Hartley can easily dispense with in the next few weeks, if we wants to".
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3 minutes ago, roman_bairn said:
Correct me if I am wrong but if he wants to bring in 8 players and reduce the squad to 18-20 he needs to ship out around 14-16 of the current squad?
No wonder no-one appears motivated to play for him.That's a very interesting point.
Just had a wee look at the numbers. If he wants to reduce the squad to 20 and bring in 8 then only 12 of the existing squad will be left at the end of January, assuming that's the timescale he was referring to instead of the end of the season.
We currently have 40 signed players. 16 of those are the Under 20 squad (Dunne, Finlayson, Gallacher, Girdwood, Jarvis, Langton, Laverty, McBride, J Mitchell, K Mitchell, Munro, Mutch, O Hara, Peggie, Stowe & Sweeney) so that leaves 24 available for culling.
3 are on loan to other clubs (Henderson, Gasparotto, Shepherd) and if those loans get extended, as you have to assume they will, that leaves 21.
If you assume we return the three loanees to their parent clubs (Balatoni, Longridge, Tumilty) then the number goes down to 18.
If he plans to keep 12 then roughly 6 of the existing senior pros will be leaving in January.
That's only a third of them. You would have hoped that the other 2/3 would be extremely motivated.
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17 minutes ago, PipoIsABairn said:
It begs the question who exactly we anticipate coming in as a replacement striker if Loy does go?
From the statements made by Hartley at the AGM, I imagine it will be an striker from England whom we've never heard of. Several strikers perhaps. It appears the days of us signing known Scottish players, often connected with the Edinburgh clubs, are over.
We'll have to wait and see if this is successful but at least bringing in unknown players makes it exciting. As opposed to signings players who're often written off by our support before they've even kicked a ball, such as Kidd and Harris.
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41 minutes ago, gav-ffc said:
McCracken and Baird recently.Both true, but that's slightly different from the point made earlier.
Reach X games = get a new contract is something we've done with both of them, amongst others.
Sign for us, and have the right to get a new contract when your existing one expires regardless of games played is something different altogether. Balatoni doesn't have that, at least based on the announcement on the official website. I don't think anyone else does either. Hence why it's up to the manager whether he stays or goes in January.
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27 minutes ago, keithgy said:
I am sure I read when he signed he had a option till the end of the season.
The option is with the club, which is pretty much always the case. I can't recall us ever signing a player and giving him the option to stay if we didn't want him after his initial contract expired.
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1 hour ago, K.T said:
The trialist is probably Danny Williams.
No it’s not.
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27 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:
The point I am making Hughes was given a budget and no one from above questioned the strategy in his signings. The same has happened again 10 years later with Houston.
Will that mean we will not make mistakes in the future - no it doesn’t - but if things are planned properly (as the new Chair said we would be setting in place) then we won’t make the monumental errors of Hughes and Houston again.I'm not trying to be argumentative BPM, but your recent responses have been full of management-clichéd waffle. "Strategic plan", "stable and planned business", "framework taking in long-term impact", "strategy in his signings".
Your posts just sound like another attack on the decision-makers of the past without explaining what should happen in the future. MSG & the old guard = bad, Margaret & Craig = good. The end.
What exactly do you think the club should be doing now? Or more specifically, what instructions or restrictions should a BOD/CEO place on a manager in relation to player recruitment?
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The Falkirk FC Thread
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I'm sure the last time the group posted an update on facebook they'd just reached a hundred members. They launched in mid-August and I think that update was around October. So a bit of quick maths suggests that they've probably made - at the very best - around four grand, unless the members are piling up and they're keeping quiet about it.