RedRob72
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Some how, next time, I think not.
Its probably a patience game for indy supporters. The more time that passes, unfortunately the more uncertainty and economic strife will emerge from the whole brexit shambles. If there is a reasonable alternative, then most Scots will go for that.
But in their hearts most sensible unionists must know this.
You don't understand the Unionist resolve then mate, not many on here do! They just take the piss, We're fine with that!0 -
2,4 or 6 years, the answer will still No Pep, reckon you're in for a long wait, just gonna have to sit it out in the meantime pal.
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I think we can make some guesses as to how important that message was. It was clearly seen as very important to the No campaign who used it as a threat, repeatedly, Ruth Davidson being particularly fond of it.
The referendum was pledged by a government that had to win a general election to implement it and didn't look, at that time, as if they'd hold a majority or even win.
I don't think we should fall into a habit of writing central arguments off because we can't know just how important it is to the final result. That is what the brexit have tried to do with the £350m bus slogans and immigration posters. Those were very visually important and it's rewriting history to deny an impact.
The Yes campaign, for me, lost the currency argument and the oil figures were optimistic, at best, which impacted the economic argument badly. For me, that's been proven by events since.
I think it's also been proven that BT were wrong on the EU issue. The simple fact is that they said that to vote No was to protect Scotland's place in the EU. No ifs, buts or maybes. That's since been proven to be wrong.
Agree with most of that Shades, posted with your usual, refreshing, fair and rational logic.
Brexit was indeed an unexpected turn of events for most Unionists, as the majority of us also didn't buy the EU/NHS/Immigration line perpetuated by the leave campaign that you mention.
I still don't believe it changes our stance on Scottish independence however, I'll concede with other posters that the only way to test this is to hold another Ref further down the line once this mess is sorted. Then yes bring it on!!0 -
Constantly throwing up the referendum result doesn't work when a central part of the unionist argument was membership of the EU which is in its way to being revoked.
You cannot claim with any certainty how powerful that message was to No voters, in the same way that I cannot claim that No voters knew the risks, given that the EU vote was an existing Government pledge before we went to the polls in Sept 2014.0 -
There is no difference bigot despite your desperation. We'll be having indyref2 soon and there's nothing you can do about it.
Pipe down sweetpea, you've never once been able to produce anything that proves your continual accusation of religious bigotry, give it a rest, it's fuckin tiresome.0 -
Maybe despair is a better word than fury.
The point he's presumably making is that an independent Scotland would receive favourable backing on individual membership of the EU.
Which means that independence from the UK would need to happen before that consideration yes?
You're right, Scotland voted by a clear margin to remain in the EU on a turnout of 68.4% (lower than both Eng & Wales)
Scotland also voted by a clear margin to remain within the U.K. on a much bigger turnout of 84.6%.
You do see the difference here?0 -
Senior MEP says an independent Scotland could take the UK's place in the EU - and Nicola Sturgeon could be given extra time to set up a new country
http://www.thenational.scot/news/15020616.Senior_MEP_says_an_independent_Scotland_could_take_the_UK_s_place_in_the_EU___and_Nicola_Sturgeon_could_be_given_extra_time_to_set_up_a_new_country/?ref=twtrec
Cue the yoon fury.
Fury? I think the word you are looking for is scorn.
Who is he suggesting that the 'political will exists' amongst? the only people that count are Scottish voters who have rejected independence once and currently don't appear to have an appetite to go through the whole process again in the near future.
Who does he have in mind, Scots who want to replace Westminster with Brussels?
You're excited that a left wing solid pro European council member 'claims' to have popular support across the board and it is reported in 'The National'!? Not clutching at straws at all eh Baxter?
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Perhaps it just goes to show, how much we miss the real thing, and that our magnificent support are chomping at the bit to get European football back in the schedule. Also shows the enormity of expectation and pressure that MW is under to achieve that at the club no?
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Lib Dems win a council sway in Sunderland on a stunning swing. Are they officially back?
I'd say yes, they're on their way. There's only so much of the Unionist vote the Tories can expect to squeeze from SLAB, the LibDems will see some of their less stable support return home in May for me!0 -
If only you had someone solely in charge of team matters with a football background that could make such a decision, someone that knows formations and tactics, like a coach or a manager. If only.
Aye very good!! The point still stands, I'm not convinced MW DOES know how best to use MOH with the other options we have going forward! Neither do most who sit near me on a Saturday afternoon at Ibrox. Yet he signed him on a 4 year deal!?0 -
Sandhill (Sunderland) result:
LDEM: 45.0% (+41.5)
LAB: 25.0% (-29.9)
UKIP: 18.7% (-7.2)
CON: 10.0% (-5.7)
GRN: 1.3% (+1.3)
Wow, that IS some swing away from Labour to the Lib Dems!!?0 -
I'd be disappointed as well but, as good as he is, and he clearly has ability, he's not really had much end product. Maybe a run of games elsewhere will be beneficial to him.
Plus, Saints are probably due a payment based on a certain amount of games so the club may be reluctant to play a player who has failed to impress if there's, say another £100k for example, to be paid.
Aye it's a fair point, he's clearly got the pace we really lack up front though, we just don't seem to know how to use him with the other players at our disposal? Think it's a real shame.0 -
Loans for Emerson Hyndman and, apparently, Jon Toral. Clearly the midfield is a problem but I know nothing about either player. Anyone got an opinion?
Also, seemingly 8,000 handsome Bears en route to Leipzig for a trivial kick-about. Tremendous support* as always.
*Let your club die brigade can f**k off.
Unbelievable level of support of heading out to Germany for Sunday's game, would love to be amongst those Bears making the trip!! Sadly not. Hopefully get chance to see our loan signings have a run out though. Any news on MOH? Would be really disappointed to see him go, deserves a proper chance and run in the side, for what we spent on him. Otherwise what a waste of a signing.
Programme starts at 14.25 on Premier HD (Sunday) Sky CH428 btw for Bears that haven't checked it out yet. If not already a subscriber the game can be purchased for £4.99 using the Code Rangers17 on registration.
Cheers Rab, FF
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Wrote a decent biography of the Kray Twins!0 -
And so you're also conceding that an open border could be retained between a sovereign Scotland and a rUK. Pleasing.
Shame you're now keen to throw up borders against our other European neighbours, though.
By the way, I said "non-British". Ireland is geographically British, and was British long before the UK nation state decided to hijack the term as a political denotation.
Going round in circles here, I've never mentioned however, a wish to 'throw up' additional borders with EU neighbours and certainly not a border with England should Indy Ref2 go ahead and succeed. Again, I'd want to see the current arrangement with the ROI maintained.0 -
But BritNats don't see borders - unless they're with non-British countries, in which case they build them.
We've had an open border with the ROI long before signing up to the EEC, there's no reason we can't continue with the present arrangement.0 -
Unionism is nationalism you fkn clown
It has a very different connotation with regards to the Union of GB & Northern Ireland as you well know Pep.
You're insults mean nothing, just that you're in a permanent state of anger, must be really tough.0 -
Which, hilariously, you still don't seem to realise only highlights how blind is your own nationalism. Despite banging on about how against Brexit you are and always have been, you're still 100% committed to Scotland leaving the EU along with the nations that actually voted to leave, because you are unswervingly and blindly devoted to UK nationalism. You deride Peppino for something you have in spades. In fact, you're arguably blinder, as you cannot even recognise your own devout nationalism.
And, of course, your commitment to UK nationalism has turned you into more of a blind separatist than Peppino, given your favoured state is, you know, actually negotiating separation, blindly.
Unionism as opposed to Nationalism.
Still believe we (4 Nations) can make a decent fist of it together, outside the EU. No it isn't what I wanted, but better to try and now work with it in the best interests of the whole of the UK.0 -
You're not a country you utter clown. Now you want Scotland to embrace brsxit even though it voted overwhelmingly against it, just cause you're a raging britnat.
Sturgeon tried to stop this, the fms of Scotland Wales and n Ireland all proposed a double lock majorities in all required for the UK to leave. London said no.
'You're not a country' what the f*ck are you on about now!?0 -
Wes craven you utter bigot.
Famed, hugely successful American Writer & Film Director!?
I'll take it.[emoji6]0 -
It's pretty ironic that you've yourself pledged yourself to blindly committed separatism, demanding as you do that Scotland go with the separation plans of the UK government.
Unswerving commitment against Brexit all along my friend. I don't see how throwing a tantrum, stamping my feet and screaming 'I'm not playing anymore' is the favoured default position, just because I didn't get the EU result I wanted.0 -
Moon Bloodgood of Terminator Salvation and Falling Skies fame.
Very nice!! [emoji6]0 -
What wes really wants sturgeon to do is defy the democratic wishes of the people of Scotland. As fm of Scotland that's the opposite of her job. He might as well say Scotland should just shut up and eat it's cereal.
'Defy the democratic wishes of the people of Scotland' coming from a blindly committed separatist!!? Ha ha, that's fuckin tremendous.
What's all this Wes stuff btw Pep? Foderingham? That's a bit low!!0 -
Have you explained what you want Sturgeon to do in order to engage with Theresa May's undefined plans for dragging Scotland out of the EU (despite every council ward voting to retain membership) "from the inside"?
For a true-blue Tory British nationalist, you don't seem to actually have a clue about how the UK government operates, especially with regard to devolved administrations.
Again: how exactly can Sturgeon help override Scotland's EU vote from the "inside" of the UK government?
You don't think the UK Gov might have appreciated, indeed welcomed the skills, knowledge and expertise residing in the devolved parliaments in adopting a collaborative approach to developing a Brexit strategy (admittedly that no-one had in place)?
Perhaps a difficult invite to make, if it's accepted only under coercion and demand.
The chance has clearly gone now, 'we didn't want it, we don't want any part of it', despite the Euro Ref being agreed in Parliament as a U.K. wide vote. Not sure how that best suits Scotland?
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When will indyref2 happen?
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There's no mask pal, I don't hide anything! 'I'm as honest as the day is long, the lesser the daylight, the less I do wrong' !![emoji6]