Black & Red Socks

Sadly, from both my own experience and from what I’ve heard from others, this isn’t at all unique. What it reveals is the fact that the blinkered mentality that underpinned so much of the ridiculous intransigence that ultimately helped lead to the sad demise of some fine clubs - some to a point where they might never fully recover to what they once were - has never really went away. Local games for local people. It’s such a sad refrain.

A real decent game of football at Blackburn, two EoSFL Premier League sides from either end of the table going at it with, in truth, little between them. Blackburn really need to consistently find the kind of performance that has pushed Rothes and Penicuik to the last minute of games and that had Linlithgow desperately killing time for fear of losing an equaliser the other week when they come up against teams in the same reaches of the league as themselves, if they could then they’d surely be quite comfortably in the top half of the league table. It really must be a conundrum for their management team, but a conundrum that they’ll have to quickly solve if they don’t want to find themselves battling against relegation as the season progresses.

From what I’ve read of his ramblings, rantings and ravings, both here and elsewhere, this guy Pyramid Pete is quite genuinely off the scale crazy. Bat Shit crazy. I’d be surprised (amazed actually) if you happen to find anyone, anyone at all, who is part of the movement he seems to want us all to believe exists when he uses the word ‘we’, which he does constantly, as in all likelihood he really should be using the word ‘I’. Quite simply, there is no ‘we’. It’s quite sad really because his work in collating scores, tables etc is both meticulous and excellent.

Batter on then. You’ve become the most prodigious poster on here since joining and your agenda remains clear and your style antagonistic in the extreme. Claim your win on whatever argument you think we’re having, put forward the ‘you misinterpreted what I said’ argument again if you can’t and good luck to your team in either a resumed season or next season.

Your confidence would be very much misplaced then. You did indeed make an entirely fair and well argued point in your initial post, but pretty much since then you’ve had quite a clear agenda which you have pursued with vigour. My own confidence is placed in the fact that many others will see this too and turn away from your poorly disguised trolling. When you refer to my view on the appropriate way this season should end as blinkered as it doesn’t equate to your own then this certainly doesn’t show the sort of respect for opposing opinions that you’ve previously claimed to have. Whatever floats your boat though, but I guess fewer and fewer will engage with you because of it.

You appear to be a perfect example of what makes social media and message boards like this such poisonous places at times. A member for little more than 24 hours and already so many of your multiple posts across several different threads are aimed solely at trying to get a rise out of one other member, or the team he supports, in particular. Poor stuff and, sadly, you have not been a positive addition to this part of P&B. I await the accusations of being this or that persons acolyte which have already begun to characterise a number of your replies.

Both the WoSFL and the SoSFL have already declared season 2020/21 null and void - no procrastination, no delay just a pragmatic decision made in the interests of all - so “the very grain of pyramid integrity” that you seem to believe the EoSFL must protect above all else by backing out of previously made decisions has already been damaged. Priority should quite clearly be given to the welfare of all those you seem to wish to see thrown back into a Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday playing routine (not to mention training commitments and all organisational, management and testing commitments) to the detriment of re-establishing a proper balance to their lives with their friends, family and work demands. Goodness, there is even a post from a player in this thread voicing his angst at the very thought of what you ask. He may or may not be in the majority but he will, at the very least, represent a sizeable minority who must be listened to. The stresses and strains brought about by what you ask may very well be intolerable for many.

I mentioned this a little earlier in this thread. There is an expectation that players and committee should just accept that with normality slowly returning they alone are to be expected to put their own return to normal family and working life on hold to squeeze in umpteen games at the behest of others, many of which will be meaningless and all of which will be without fans. There will almost certainly be a requirement to test and test again too as it is this that has allowed the lower SPFL leagues to return. Every other pyramid league under Tier 5 has seen the sense of not asking part time players and volunteers to sacrifice themselves in such a way and have sensibly went for the null and void option. The EoSFL really need to do likewise and stand by the decision communicated to clubs at the outset of the season and reiterated to those clubs again in February.

This seems exactly right to me. It’s often mentioned that fans are the most important part of a club and, if not them, then players - but what about the committees who, for the most part, are merely fans who have stepped up and volunteered countless unpaid hours to facilitate the games that those fans watch and that those players play in? To expect these folks to work tirelessly behind the scenes to put on two and perhaps three games a week to squeeze in half a season when there will still be no fans to witness it, when many of those games will be entirely meaningless and when, in all likelihood, all COVID protocols will still have to be enacted is not realistic in any way when their families will need to come first when lockdown restrictions are lifted. Some of the language used in an earlier post against the null and void option, eminently sensible imho when set against what is outlined above, is pretty much out of order and helps absolutely no one.

FFS what does this nonsense even mean? You are one truly tiresome individual.

Exactly this. To create further imbalance in an already imbalanced pyramid only limits the possibility of progression from within the area presently covered by the lowland league and its three feeders.

Pffft, this is the internet ya poe-faced cunto. I’m joking by the way - that means I can call you what I like, right?

Glad you didn’t miss it - reread your last post in reply to glensmad, a poster who is pretty much a constant voice of reason and informed comment, and tell me you weren’t trying to be a smart Alec?

No amount of your smarty Alec belly aching will detract from the fact that he is right and that you are fighting a rearguard action that has already failed.

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I feel a fair number of your posts make points I can often agree with, indeed I might even have green dotted a few here and there. However, dearie me do you desperately need to find some form of self awareness.

Surprised you would say this to be honest, perhaps your support of Lochee is colouring you viewpoint just a little? As has been mentioned in at least one previous observation, not all he said was wrong but the sheer, seething bitterness of just about everything he spoke of was awful. From this podcast appearance you can safely assume that there will continue to be little in the way of positive engagement with the Pyramid on his part and that will continue to be detrimental to his club and to the rest of the Tayside teams.

https://www.pitchero.com/clubs/livingstonunitedjuniorfootballclub/news/official-club-statement-2533366.html A firm commitment that they will indeed be moving to the EoSFL, whether it be this coming season should circumstances change, and they are likely to with Bo’ness United moving up to the Lowland League, or for season 2021/22. Good on them for showing the proper sort of ambition and for being willing to go public with their intention while clearly keeping the ERSJFA firmly in the loop. I for one hope all is not lost to them by way of EoSFL football for season 2020/21, whenever that might be.

If Bo’ness United are indeed promoted to the Lowland League, and if I understand correctly then it is the Lowland League’s intention to do just that if and when the SFA award them their license, then the precedent set when admitting Kinnoull at last years AGM really should be followed and Livingston United admitted to balance the conferences. No amount of gnashing of teeth from Rod Petrie and Ian Maxwell should prevent this, these are men who have shown a complete disregard to, and no understanding of, the non-league game across the country.

I just can’t see a majority of EoSFL sides accepting teams from north of the ‘accepted’ dividing line. There can be a never ending argument re precedent but most people would accept that the dividing line passing through the centre of a town/village is a unique circumstance. No precedence is being set by accepting a team from that town/village no matter how much some may wish it to be otherwise. A Dundee team should try applying and see where it gets them.

Playing the season without cups (other than maybe the Scottish Cup?) is quite clearly the way to go when you have an 18 team top league.

Probably just the same guy with multiple usernames.

Pathetic.

I don’t see anyone suggesting that the late application was an intentional move to further such a narrative, which is how the wording of the above comes across? Rather, the rejection may be used by others within the staunch West Lothian Junior community to further that very narrative.

Wow. Rejected? That strikes me as a bit out of character for the way the EoSFL have approached everything up until now. I’d venture rejecting a West Lothian club is a grievous mistake, it allows a narrative of ‘see, they don’t want us’ to develop. A bad and very disappointing misjudgment. Has this went to or will it go to the clubs? Surely it should. I can’t imagine any current EoSFL club would reject a West Lothian club given how important bringing them on board would be. I’d venture this is the first misstep by the EoSFL board if they have indeed made the decision to reject Livingston for no other reason than missing an arbitrary deadline. Poor stuff and an error that will keep the only area of central Scotland outwith the pyramid at a distant arms length for no good reason.