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8 minutes ago, Clown Job said:
Ah it’s the schools to blame now
Well if you think segregating children into different schools based on the brand of Christianity their parents prefer and sticking 'proddy dogs' & 'cathy cats' labels on them is a force for harmony and general well being then of course the schools aren't to blame.
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16 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:
Good Grief, how could I have got that so wrong for so many years ! When I was first subjected to that record as an impressionable youngster the fact that this guy called Sean was wandering about doing whatever it was he did but only south of this mythical place called Garryowen ( which Bill McLaren always assured me was a high up and under in rugby) almost made it almost palatable. Parhaps Michael was assigned north of Garryowen, Hector looked after west of Garryowen and so on. Now it's revealed as just another 3rd rate dirge with no lyrical quirkiness and I'm revealed as a someone who doesn't listen to records properly. Mind you the best bit of that LP was always the first few seconds of crowd noise...
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On 08/02/2022 at 18:51, topcat(The most tip top) said:
Which would have meant Partick Thistle, Rangers & Hibs would have had to fold when their towns were absorbed into the larger city
And Celtic would never have happenedI think we all could drink to that !!
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12 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said:
Older fans had to put up with this sort of stuff in the 'sixties. Thankfully things, and the songs, have changed.
Released on the Orange Hallmark label too.
There was a corresponding Celtic LP "The Holy Ground of Glasgow Celtic" , also released on the orange Hallmark label and featuring such sub Glen Daly guff as 'The Merry Ploughboy', 'Sean, South of Garryowen' & 'We're All Off to Dublin'.
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On 06/02/2022 at 18:00, Jinky67 said:
Like what he had to do at the start of the season when most of you thought it was going tits up?
I think we can clearly see the type of character he is win, lose or draw. So if we don’t win the league it will be simply a case of going again next season
Well good for him. He'll be the first Celtic manager to take such a magnanimous view since whoever it was that Willie Maley replaced so fair dinkums to Ange.
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14 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:
What the f**k is European class footballer?
Someone regarded as the best in his position in Europe, or f***k*** Europe if you prefer.
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2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:
A stupidlyl arge amount of teams getting relegated wouldn't increase crowds much. Say 4 (or even 6) teams were to be relegated each season. 2 (or 3) would be stranded before Christmas, fixtures against them would hardly attract the fair weather fan - unless they thought there was going to be a goal spree - and their replacements the following season would just go straight back down.
I remember the old 18 team top flight. I thought it was fine, but then I didn't know anything else.
Inevitably one of the promoted sides was relegated, one of the relegated sides was promoted back up (see post from Partick Thistle fan above). Sometimes both relegated sides came back up.
Some teams just bounced back and forward between the two divisions, e.g Stirling Albion, late 50s early 60s Clyde. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Usually come Christmas one side was stranded at the bottom. I remember Aberdeen being involved in a "relegation" battle in 1968/69. We beat Falkirk at Pittodrie before Christmas and that more or less meant we (probably) wouldn't be relegated, We finished 4th bottom but were never in any serious danger of being caught by the teams below.
If you're not battling the drop - which, in my experience, seldom went to the last day - or chasing the title/European spots there were quite a lot of (fairly) meaningless games for the rest.
This crazed obsession with eliminating 'meaningless' games baffles me. Is our game better, our players better, our 'product' better than it was in the old 18 team Division One that was in place when I first saw football ? Course it's not. It really is no coincidence that the last truly European class footballer we produced , Kenny Dalglish, came through gradually at Celtic with the benefit of these vile meaningless games to ease him in....and not to mention playing reserve team football with the likes of Bobby Murdoch etc but that's another bugbear !!!
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On 01/02/2022 at 23:49, Frosty said:
A worthy runner-up in the greatest ever "Love Will" song contest to the sublime 'Love Will Keep Us Together ' Better sentiment, better song. Though to be fair to the dour Mancunians, their 'Atmosphere ' does edge it over the Russ Abott 'Atmosphere '.
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17 minutes ago, coprolite said:
You know that the whole game and leagues etc are all artificially created, right?
Indeed, and that artifice should be put in place in August and then left alone to its own devices for the rest of the season.
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10 hours ago, Chefki Kuqi said:
If we're doing fantasy formats I'd go 16/14/12, with a split in the top flight after a home/away fixture against each team as I quite like the split.
I just never get this 'split' business. What does it achieve ? Artificially created so called 'meaningful' games whose psuedo tension stifles creative football and the blooding of young players and another chance for one final lick at the Old Firm testicle ? Utter nonsense from the 'Richard Gordon fascinating set of fixtures' school of delusion.
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1 hour ago, MarbellaDEE said:
Kids these days, no respect.
You love to see it.
When are Rangers going to stop sending their keeper onto the pitch dressed like a children's entertainer at an Orange Lodge Christmas party ?
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4 hours ago, gannonball said:
I wasn’t aware that the word ‘mate’ had such imperialistic connotations. Oh wait sorry you are just batshit crazy and ranting about something totally unrelated because you are seething after last night.
And there you have it...
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2 hours ago, SuperSaints1877 said:
Great thread @Luddite
I totally agree with the idea of a larger league playing each other home and away only. Problem is the TV companies and sponsors demand 4 OF league games.
It requires our football authorities and our clubs to agree to a larger top division similar to other major footballing countries. Due to the voting rights and the self interest of clubs in the top league, this won’t happen. Outside the OF the clubs look forward to multiple visits by OF. Personally I don’t.
The only way I can see change happening is that the fans unite as one and threaten to withhold season ticket money to force change.
Problem is that the fans of the two largest clubs probably see 4 OF league games as a bonus rather than a visit to Dunfermline/Thistle/Kilmarnock or dare I say it Morton.
Our league format is boring. Our gate prices are becoming prohibitive for many fans.
We need change but I firmly believe the only way we make change is through the fans demanding change.
Why is broadcasters & sponsors wanting 4 old firm games a problem. Either tell them sorry, no (as telt in those countries who would demand 4 Barca v Real or 4 Bayern v Dortmund or 4 Liverpool v Man Utd) or make sure the Old Bigots are paired together first opportunity in League & Scottish Cup......thus avoiding the societal mayhem that is a Celtic v Rangers cup final & giving 4 old firm games...win win all round.
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50 minutes ago, Desp said:
Aye, agree with this. Hard to dislike someone who just calls everyone 'mate' all the time.
The seething cesspit of hatred, bile & paranoia that is the Green Brigade won't tolerate that kind of attitude for long.
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2 hours ago, Kyle Reese said:
This is a very selfish hypothetical set-up that I’m suggesting. It won’t be popular, but it’s the best way I can think of, to make the possibility of a champion out-with the OF a possibility.
If you added four or six teams to the current 12, and everybody played each other once at home, and once away, then in my opinion, you would have the opportunity for one of the three medium sized clubs to put in a league challenge, in a season where they put together a once in a decade or so good squad.
I’ll use Hearts as my hero in my scenario, just because:
Over the course of 30 or 34 games, we would play the OF once at home, and once away. They would be tough games, but we would be more capable of winning them and overcoming.the odds in two one off cup final-esque fixtures, than we would four times over the season.
What I think could happen, is the gap would shift. The current problematic gap, is the one from second to third. If that gap was narrowed a bit, and the gap from fifth to sixth was widened a bit, then over the course of a season, if one of the medium three (Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen) managed to assemble that once in a decade outstanding squad, we would be better equipped to do an OF on the teams below us.
Bear in mind in this scenario, we have a squad like that of Hearts in 86, 98 or 06. It’s also dependent on a few other things, not just an extended top division. I’d introduce a cap on away supporters. Set it a percentage of average home crowd. This would mean less income for clubs that currently sell comparable numbers of tickets to the OF when playing them at home, as they do to their own supporters. This would reduce the quality of their playing resources, and widen the gap a little between fifth and sixth place clubs (based on size of support).
The medium sized club that puts together their once in a decade good squad would probably get more points over a season by doing better against the third tier top division clubs, and would only have to play the top two twice each. Over the course of the season I believe this could lead to the medium sized club, who had assembled this rare but excellent squad, to put in a better challenge than if it had to play the OF eight times. It could also be less likely to slip up v one of the smaller clubs and drop as many points that way.
I’d also abolish loans between clubs in the same division, and I’d have two automatic relegation spots, and then play offs between third bottom and third in the division below. All teams in the top division would to be full-time professional.
Selfish, and won’t be to many people’s taste, but in my opinion, it’s about the only way I can ever see a challenge from out-with Glasgow. It wouldn’t be a sure thing to work, but I believe it sets the board in a way that would at least make it a bit more likely.
Many flaws in what I’ve put above, and it’s no guarantee of success, but I think it would at least make it a bit more achievable. Let’s face it, there’s plenty flaws in the current system, and we know for damn sure that it doesn’t lend itself well to a team out-with the OF winning it at present, as we’ve seen for the last 30 odd years.
It’s early in the morning though, and I’ve not had a coffee yet. I’ll look back in and take the pelters over all the reasons why it’s a terrible idea a little later.
Not forgetting of course, the utter tedium of playing the same teams on such a regular basis . Factor in the stifling of young talent coming through when every game is 'vital', a healthy league requires a zone of mid-table safety come springtime.
How did we get here ? By abondining two divisions, playing each other home an away only. That decision in 74/75 sealed Scottish footballs fate. A slow, steady and now rapidly accelerating decline every since.
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1 minute ago, Jinky67 said:
The more offside goals we score against them the better imo.
What's this 'we' business ? 'They' scored...'you' watched !
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1 minute ago, TheScarf said:
VAR would be horrendous for the old firm. They’d get 10-15 points less a season.
Which is why it will never happen I fear....
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2 hours ago, Ric said:
Should we start a petition so that Keevins fucks off to England, and does his "journalism" down there
They wouldn't have him. There isn't the same market in England for a 'journalist ' to spend his entire career telling lies for the benefit of two teams as Keevins has done in Glasgow.
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23 hours ago, gannonball said:
Disagree with this as they do have first hand experience in what they are reporting on . But Willie Miller has all the charisma of a tin of corned beef and you can tell he has little interest in what he is reporting. Lack of research is annoying as well as he clearly thinks his standing in the game is enough to carry him. I don't mind the likes of Derek Ferguson or Rory Loy as you can tell they are happy to be there and it paints a better picture of our game.
Pundits yep, analysts ok, providing occasional interjections informed by experience as player absolutely. As reporters, describing what is or has gone on in the game, the teams, the scorers, the action.....No, no and as Frankie Howard would confirm, thrice no !!! They can't do it, they are not reporters, they don't have the required skill set.
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Caller on last night apropos Nathan Patterson transfer saying Rangers business model should be buying up and coming European talent and selling on at healthy profit. All well and sensible until the delusional stupidity that passes for Old Firm intellect bounded forth unchallenged...... "If Ajax can do it so can Rangers"........followed quickly by this slice of prime Old Firm cretinism......." cos no way are Ajax a bigger club than Rangers".
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2 hours ago, Drew Brees said:
You're not having a pop at the glorious Glasgow Celtic, the downtrodden ones, the banzai bigots, the we don't care what the animals say, the how come only 11 Lisbon Lions were capped for Scotland, are you ?
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1 hour ago, Rodhull said:
He's not too bad if being asked his opinions generally but yeah his reporting from matches is pretty dreadful. As has been said if the weather's bad you're lucky to get a couple of reports of incidents per half unless Richard Gordon literally drags it out of him.
Admittedly he does cover Aberdeen games more often than not which are almost routinely dreadful spectacles over the last few years.
When will the BBC get it into their heads that ex-professional footballers have no business as reporters.
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13 minutes ago, Fratelli said:
Magnificent Barclays.
Imagine being one of those 'dont watch that overrated EPL shite!!' bores.
If you don't like that you don't like football.
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32 minutes ago, Drew Brees said:
Stumbled across this earlier, Scotland v England 1972 home international. Only skirted through it, standard of football looks pretty bad but players were getting stuck in. Atmosphere not great considering there was over 119,000 at the game.
"And for those watching in black & white the referee is wearing a bright scarlet jumper"
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Aberdeen v Celtic
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Just ponder on the fact that the above example of slanderous spittle flecked invective was in response to the mere suggestion that in 2022 maybe, just maybe, we could educate our young people together regardless of their skin colour, their parents religious beliefs or non-beliefs. In response to the mere suggestion that parhaps, if Catholicism , Presbyterianism, Judaism, Islam, Atheism etc etc learned in the same classroom and played in the same playground then maybe the 'mutants' would have less of an audience for their vile hatred and ignorance. Idealistic nonsense I know but what is so wrong about discussing it ? Why does the mere suggestion unleash such anger in people ? I wish I got it but I don't and it really depresses me about our country.