The Tiel Burn

Agreed, there is a quality in their work that shows the players trust them. Let's see some of the longer player specials back please. The hour long specials in my lugs while I walk the dog are much appreciated. Are they covering the final tomorrow?

Nice narrow viewpoint beautifully allowing more reasoned posters to show some maturity. TV folk withdrew on the basis of the player representing the club. Many would argue their withdrawal was a key point in the turnaround. Player won't play, they seem to have had dialogue with the club and note they are returning to be part of a rebuild. Rebuild suggests change though obviously we won't know what that means to them till they tell us. The other option they had is stay away and withdraw access to all fans who can't make the game. We are all clear the board ain't walking soon so I think it's better they are engaged with fans as they are doing. What happens if they stay away? Trust me fans are fickle and they will get targetted as being on a moral high horse that has outlived its stated course (player related) We've seen bits of pretty poor output from the club in the last week. That suggests if RTV aren't on the ground then they will be replaced and we as fans will have some generic company replacing something we feel is our own. For me there was strong action then a will to get round the table. Would be different if they were reading the teamlines with GW listed, only then would the "folding like a deckchair" argument hold any credence beyond someone stirring the pot. Unlike you I am amazed and bouyant about how much fans have achieved, of course a long way to go.

Good analysis. FWIW PR firm need to do as much of the following as they can and club need to buy in 100% Donation to relevant charity Free pitchside advertising Jersey needs a name next year - woman's aid or such to be approached Invite relevant specialist to provide education to club staff, Directors and players Publicly apologise to Denise Claire, maybe she chooses the charity (if she wishes) All this is likely to open doors for volunteers to make an easier return. Club need to pick up the phone and own the apology and ask for help to implement the plan. Become something of a pheonix in that fans led the value base and club listened (all be it too late) to become something new. This only works if it is owned and bit a damage limitation exercise.

RAITH TV not getting the respect of a call or message, not good at all. Hope there is still time to get them on board again in some capacity. Had zero interest in the game which is a concern, I thought I would miss it way more than this. If the club don't act quick many like me will just drift regardless of future fortunes. Any update on Lang?

Braw, no doubt had other options and the care and attention of the club reaps rewards. It's January, we have no cash so ots good business, IMO we need dependable and familiar above a Down South gamble. Would love to think we have a random up our sleeve but if not then 3 great additions have been sourced. Seeing the show reel with Bowie celebrating a Hammer goal peaks my hopes.

I am clearly in a minority of 1 in that I just don't get/enjoy the Dick Campbell shtick. I find it worse than Ron Manager reruns. However as a manager, hats off to him and his staff, their place at the top of the league is nothing more than they deserve. When they ran away from Rovers a couple of years back I thought that was their once in a generation team. They have now gone further and there is no fluke about it. Wouldn't be surprised if they grab a big name loanee as they are seen as an attractive and fun proposition. They are a good side so it's not about a bubble bursting as that suggests they have been lucky. Squad size and injury/suspensions is the big challenge but that's the same for everyone Of course I want Rovers to come good but if its Arbroath good luck to them, family club, strong community engagement, local fans and as away fans we get treated with respect when visiting.

Agent looking for activity, journalist looking for attention, club floating an idea, fans vent their spleen and the story is likely to move on. Given it would undermine community foundation and the women in prominent club positions including shirt sponsor it would be wild failure not to read the room.

Exactly this.

Remember him well from Dumbarton, the name always caught my attention. Keeping in mind SJM has an encyclopedic memory this looks great. Wonder if he has been on trial or training with us. Again, we'll done to the board etc for taking forward thinking action.

It was the wee off pitch moments that stood out; the kid tapping along to the music, folk walking up the ramp to buy the 50/50, great eye for detail in the piece. Very much like the Social Media photography. I enjoy that far more than the player action shots (not belittling how important that is) I just like the notion of fans attachment to the club being visible. The number of young fans also gives hope that locally the message is getting through. Good football does that but also the community foundation are smashing that requirement.

Firstly great news about Frankie, I'm told we have yet to see the best of him given most of our views are based on stream/TV. We are really lucky with the variety of media we have; Courier making an effort with good return, k107 taking the relaxed fanzine based approach and Raith TV overdelivering for years. Wee story re Raith TV, my gaffer was speaking to one of the guys at the Michael Woods. His kid told the guy he was up for disability sports every week. Added his favourite player was Vaughny and he was getting a Rovers strip for his birthday (Sorry didn't get a name) next week the receptionist shouts him over and there's a birthday card waiting for the lad signed by Bene and Lewis. Have to say is they do this as volunteers do they work, sleep?

Great to have your in depth analysis of squad dynamics on hand. Up till now I have been over reliant on the: man management, tactical experience, track record and pro license qualifications of John McGlynn.

Absolute shambles: a thoughtless decision is made, they ponder the options and make it worse. The thinking will be "well you can now watch both games" Forget, finishing work, getting kids sorted (you know the next generation of supporters) travel time etc Moving the game to Wednesday solves the issue but that means a climb down. No way bigger clubs would be treated so poorly. Well done SPFL, I've lost interest, won't be travelling and won't be using PPV.

Queens board having a total mare here, played like fools by a media junkie using them to poke the Scottish government with a stick. I would imagine they have invited him in ahead of fans by using the "boardroom" clause and he has booted them in the stanes. The first apology is insulting and the second is worse as it seeks to create a scenario where they were naive rather than complicit. Tier 4 no ballot, no carrying over of offers no attend, no exceptions. If their story was true then where were the other fans who found themselves in a similar situation, who did and did not get notification they couldn't/couldn't attend. The one thing that won't change is board rooms putting themselves first, we've seen ICT refusing Raith Rovers and Dundee permission to have an analyst film the game from a near empty stand, media access for away clubs to service their fans interest is restricted despite the empty stadiums yet the boardrooms are full.

Interested to know why you are so definite in your advice. I have visited both at least annually for the last 20 years. To be fair always en route to (primarily) Torino or another Northern destination such as Genoa, Reggio Emilia or further down to Parma. I am wholly biased but Torino is a hugely underrated destination, its compact, and is rich in modernity and historical interest. Having said that Milan is far easier and cheaper to reach even if you travel via Bergamo. For that reason I would say base yourself in Milan with some time and a stay in Torino.

Thanks for raising the High, I listened to them again recently but discovered on the back of your post they got back together. So will check their stuff out. Their first album is super gentile which amuses me given it was produced by the late Martin Hannett, I'm more in tune with his Dead Kennedys work. Manchester was definetly my time, was lucky enough to see all the bands many times including lots of gigs before their first albums; Stone Roses at the Venue Edinburgh, Glasgow Rooftops, spike Island, Ally Pally, Blackpool. Saw the Charlatans most as I was buying 60's Garage punk from a shop whose owner went on to manage the band. Pre first single they done a lot of "secret" gigs so managed to see them in Northwich, Warrington and London then after the first album travelled a bit with them in the uk and a trip to Paris. I agree the Inspiral carpets were possibly the best live band through their early work (traincrash, planecrash, Joe, dung4) pity for me is that both Inspiral Carpets and Charlatans first albums were softened so much their live energy was lost. The thread gave me a smile as the music has recently started coming back into my life; my daughter is obsessed with the Different Days album while one of my kids at my work who I'm teaching guitar has been learning Happy Mondays riffs. As a result I went into the loft to dig out concert tickets, back stage passes, programmes etc for them to see. Some great memories and a host of trips I have no recollection of whatsoever; World of Twist, Flowered up, The Cranberries supporting Liverpool band TOP, I recall seeing the La's twice yet I've got half a dozen tickets including a signed one. Cant imagine how my memory of those days could have been so compromised !!

Having followed Torino for 30 plus years I would like to take offence but can find absolutely no grounds to disagree. The poorest mindset, intensity and character of any squad in the last decade. That includes last years set of escapologists. Absolutely soft centred, Cairo would be as well as cashing in on Belotti in January and getting out of the city with his gains.

This is golden Scottish football thinking, the logic is magnificent. Youre not paying £14 to watch your team in the derby where going by the facebook advert you're getting; multiple cameras, in game replays, half time interview with an ex player and a chat board to help with any log in problems cos it's up £2. You will however pay £12 to watch 2 teams you dont support on a pixellot stream from the club who offered pars fans absolutely awful service when you visited. The highlights from that game induced motion sickness. To be fair to Alloa their service is now fine, basic but watchable, I paid (because my team wasnt playing) to watch their Hearts game, was it value for £12? Well it was no better than Elgin TV or the Blue Brazil TV output both of which are cheaper.

So Pars fans were happy with £12 for the utter dug meat Alloa served them up and because it's been the price from the get go? Its fine that Morton are charging £14 for a 1 camera set up (they will be raising that to £16 for Hearts visit who knows maybe us 2 as well) They have greatly improved but they have streamed maybe 5 games one of which ended up on you tube as the whole thing went belly up. They off nothing even close to Raith TV or Pars TV and Hearts are fine at £18.50 as they are somehow "probably value" Rovers up the price by £2 for their first home game in umpteen weeks for a service that content wise has been universally praised and Pars fans go full "Gone with the Wind" melodrama. Who knows maybe they have reviewed the price after complaints from season pass holders, maybe they think the service should be priced at £14 after a bedding in period. I Like to think it is just to invoke the bed wetting from pars fans who wouldn't go without a coffee or a packet of revels to get the proper stream. Price needs set and left there if it's £14 then for the games I've watched it's a fair price. I've got 4 of us watching decent output hindered a bit by my utter gash broadband for £14. on Saturday. They are not new to this 6 maybe 7 years ago I was watching games while on holiday, maybe you get what you pay for. Wind your necks in give the service a chance and if Pars charge the same then so be it. I was down South and bought their Hearts game, all very decent wouldn't have a problem with £14. Pimping illegal streams, boycotts, "point of principle" pish is the type of hysterical nonsense from minters who smuggle pic n mix into the Odeon and shout at the folk on the tills when their cous cous goes up in price.