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Agree there. Also, plenty of folk, especially our Theo Fan Club on here, gave him the chance and trusted the signing. He's been absolutely outstanding for us, and even when he wasn't scoring as often he was key to our best play. What a guy. Now getting the praise from the vast majority of fans he absolutely deserves.

First home kit I had: First away kit I'm sure was this: Also remember getting the black third kit at some point that @crazylegsjoe mentioned. But I seem to remember that being a few years after we wore it, randomly finding it in a sports shop in an industrial estate in Carluke, long gone now mind you.

Is that maybe just a rule for "league" clubs? I'm not sure but that's my guess.

Aye that's a fair point. I thought Butcher was terrible against Celtic but, as has been discussed, using as many subs as possible just because you can may not have helped either. No point dwelling too much on a defeat to Celtic, we've improved massively in recent weeks, topping it off with the outstanding performance on Saturday, and Kettlewell deserves praise for that.

Going to sound like I'm blaming him here... but Butcher didn't play and did against Celtic

Speaking of injuries, the wee guy that tried to tackle Casey and hurt himself is apparently back in training after *checks notes* a lengthy zero weeks out. Almost like they were trying to deflect eh?

They still greetin' aye? Glorious. Motherwell admin continuing to put out Casey content too...

If we're going with refs' opinions then the current experienced referee said it wasn't a foul. That's ideal, sorted. Case closed. Ps: Cry more Rangers

A lot of the rhetoric around this, particularly from Sky's hilariously unbalanced Ref Watch, seems to be "the lad went home on crutches", as if there has never been a recorded incident of a footballer getting injured when no foul has occurred. Pish for the guy getting hurt but it's not a foul.

Oh well, if former terrible referee Bobby Madden says it's a red then that settles it eh? We getting to the stage where visiting teams aren't allowed to compete for loose balls or tackle at Ibrox? Would that just be easier? Not only is Casey not late, he's early! It's a loose ball that he has every right to go for. Shame a player got hurt but this debate is laughable. Have Rangers fans considered crying more? That might help.

What a great weekend of fitba. f**k it, firing the highlights on again!

What a performance. What a team. What a club. Mon the Well!

Can't believe we only gave Kettlewell a year's extension!

Can't say I'm massively surprised at that outcome, the phrasing will have contributed to the result, that and the fact it wasn't on a specific proposal. Wasn't how I voted, still not sure it's the best way to kick off negotiations as anyone looking to invest will know they could push for full ownership, in theory anyway. I mentioned previously I had some concerns about the turnout at the latest elections for the WS and this turnout hasn't been great either. I think what the new society board have planned sounds great, and will hopefully inject a bit of enthusiasm, but there is clearly a bit of tiredness around it all, even from current members. In general I'm still optimistic about fan ownership, alongside investment but there is a good bit of work to do you'd imagine. Interesting to see how this develops over the next few weeks, but the longer this goes on the longer we are without key figures at the club, with a huge summer ahead.

I like Bevis too. Aye he's got a clanger in him, but across the division that's quite a common thing with defenders. If the choice was him or Butcher I'd be choosing Bevis. SODs was good on Wednesday night too, going forward and defensively. While he's been inconsistent, like most defenders in our team this season, he is a better player than folk give him credit and the constant shite he gets from some in the support is way over the top. As soon as he makes a mistake, all positive impact is forgotten and folk are going aff their heeds. He certainly doesn't get up and down the pitch like he used to, but I've been impressed with him in the back three. I know he's been put back to WB in his last few games but wonder if that'll be his position longer term either with us or with another side.

We've for sure had issues at the back this season, but anyone saying we're not enjoyable/entertaining when we get going in attack must not be watching the same team. Most goals scored of any team outside the Old Firm/There is no Old Firm. Some absolutely cracking team and individual goals, with a spread across the team. We've obviously not been consistent, and have been frustrating during certain runs, but we are great fun to watch at times.

Wild that we are the league leaders for most points from losing positions this season, and those work out at about half of our overall total at the moment. I know the character of the team has been called into question at times this season, but there has to be something there if they just refuse to give up. If we can cut out the daft mistakes at the back (perhaps even just cut the number down if we're being more realistic) there's no reason we can't have a positive end to the campaign.

Great second half display. I criticised Kettlewell for his changes at the weekend, he has got tonight's absolutely spot on. Vale terrific, took his goal so well too. Great ball in from SODs for the first goal, smart finish from Nicholson. Second goal a thing of beauty. Team have worked so hard in the second half. Also, Kelly looked better. The confident way he took the corner on 85 minutes was just what we needed at that point. Decent game from SODs too, couple of really important pieces of defending from him. Huge win.

Got to imagine neither are fully fit. Can't be any other reason for it.

Hearing in the commentary that Kettlewell has never won at Livi as a manager. Do you think his continual banging on about the pitch maybe rubs off on the players? Just a thought.

Aye agreed man, just the look of "what can ye do eh?" really summed up how we're defending these days for me.

If ever there was an image that sums up our defending this season...

Spot on assessment. The subs were all over the place today. I do want Kettlewell to do well, but the insistence on shoehorning the likes of Paton (granted not today) and Butcher into the team does him no favours. Butcher looks done at this level, today was one of the most amateur substitute performances I've seen from an experienced player, whose job, you'd imagine, was to calm the team and organise.

On the whole I thought we played pretty well, but absolutely shat it again. The subs killed us. Butcher offers nothing, floats about marking nobody, getting booked and shouting at his team mates for his mistakes. Get tae f**k.