mcjimbob_dfc Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 They need to put a call in to Dundee whose supporters have past experience of standing outside Almondvale causing a fracas. Good shout... .....OR they could always call St Johnstone for the cardboard cut outs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 As I said, I thought protesting outside the meeting in large numbers would be a better idea but it seems this is the way we are going on this occasion.No, I don't believe there'll be any hijacking involved by any of our supporters groups. Perhaps he will f**k off when he sees the amount of people that don't want him there in any capacity? Really? You dont think any of the fans will get a bit emotional and carried away and that the whole thing might descend into farce? You'd better hope to god that isnt what happens, because its exactly what Massone wants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Nomi Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 That "deluded fool" would be me. It just gives Massone no chance of peddling the old, "there's not enough people asking for me to go" line. "Apathetic Shite", I think not. This was one of the points I was trying to make to your friend Mr Darwin. It appears to me that there is just NOT enough people that care enough about Livi to make their point to Massone that he has to go? I am certainly not saying that people such as yourself dont care about the future of Livi, but it appears that there are very few people who feel the same way. It seems that the people of Livingston & West Lothian in general have just not taken Livi FC to heart, seems like most could not give a flying f%*k whether Livi survive or not. Mr Darwin mentioned that Stirling Albion dont exactly have the biggest fan base, that may be true, but the fans they do have seem to be doing thier utmost to get together and save their club - I am sure that there would be a large turn out at any important meeting regarding the future of Stirling FC as appeasrs to me that their support and the people of Stirling (in the main) actually care about their club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Really? You dont think any of the fans will get a bit emotional and carried away and that the whole thing might descend into farce?You'd better hope to god that isnt what happens, because its exactly what Massone wants. Without a doubt there'll be a few emotional people at the meeting but I don't think it will be to the extent where the meeting becomes hijacked by that and turn into a farce. We realise the severity of the situation and it is tantamount that we get Massone to realise that he's not wanted in any capacity, from the meeting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 As I said, I thought protesting outside the meeting in large numbers would be a better idea but it seems this is the way we are going on this occasion.No, I don't believe there'll be any hijacking involved by any of our supporters groups. Perhaps he will f**k off when he sees the amount of people that don't want him there in any capacity? Quite possibly he will, but with the parcel of rogues waiting in the wings to replace him, whilst vehemently denying in the red tops that they have anything to do with the club, that won't help you overcome the mountain of debt that the club will have to repay if they have any hop of survival. Whereas I don't buy any of Massone's hyperbolic bull crap, unity is required right about now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_7 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I must ask Sensible for a loan of his grave dancing shoes. Poetic Justice for the team that spends money that isn't theirs to spend! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedV Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Quite possibly he will, but with the parcel of rogues waiting in the wings to replace him, whilst vehemently denying in the red tops that they have anything to do with the club, that won't help you overcome the mountain of debt that the club will have to repay if they have any hop of survival.Whereas I don't buy any of Massone's hyperbolic bull crap, unity is required right about now. Unity was required right about Christmas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AND180Y Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 That "deluded fool" would be me. It just gives Massone no chance of peddling the old, "there's not enough people asking for me to go" line. "Apathetic Shite", I think not. Why not just ask the creditors along, that should double the numbers!! Or you could really go for it and ask the creditors who lost out in the last two debt write-offs along for a supersize crowd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 This was one of the points I was trying to make to your friend Mr Darwin. It appears to me that there is just NOT enough people that care enough about Livi to make their point to Massone that he has to go? I am certainly not saying that people such as yourself dont care about the future of Livi, but it appears that there are very few people who feel the same way. It seems that the people of Livingston & West Lothian in general have just not taken Livi FC to heart, seems like most could not give a flying f%*k whether Livi survive or not.Mr Darwin mentioned that Stirling Albion dont exactly have the biggest fan base, that may be true, but the fans they do have seem to be doing thier utmost to get together and save their club - I am sure that there would be a large turn out at any important meeting regarding the future of Stirling FC as appeasrs to me that their support and the people of Stirling (in the main) actually care about their club. The only thing more we could do is to organise fundraising ideas for any potential trust takeover which is not the most prefered option over McDougall taking over. The reason why we are limited to that is that we are trying to bleed Massone and unfortunately in turn the club dry so that he realises that the club cannot function while he is in charge. That is the reason why the comically bad figure of "£149.50" was raised from the appeal, not because people don't care. Hopefully the meeting will show him this in an instant rather than how we were dragging it out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedV Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 The only thing more we could do is to organise fundraising ideas for any potential trust takeover which is not the most prefered option over McDougall taking over. The reason why we are limited to that is that we are trying to bleed Massone and unfortunately in turn the club dry so that he realises that the club cannot function while he is in charge. That is the reason why the comically bad figure of "£149.50" was raised from the appeal, not because people don't care.Hopefully the meeting will show him this in an instant rather than how we were dragging it out. FFS, you're not going to bother raising funds because it's not the "preferred option"??? And why would you have to pass on any funds raised to Massone OR the club at this stage?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AND180Y Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 FFS, you're not going to bother raising funds because it's not the "preferred option"???And why would you have to pass on any funds raised to Massone OR the club at this stage?? Exactly, even if they had committed their season ticket monies to the trust then the trust would have had a faily big wedge with which to bargain instead of having to swoon at the feet of yet another suitor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliche Guevara Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 FAO Charles Darwin Esq I think it's fair to say that Livingston was founded, and have subsequently existed, on an addictive lust for success. The conveyor belt of new owners wanting to make the club the 'third force in Scotland', the endless problems paying players, management staff, transfer fees etc all designed to desperately cling on to this misguided notion that Livingston are a viable option anywhere near the SPL. Supporters of most clubs see their team go through ups and downs. A large percentage actually don't really enjoy too many ups! Livingston FC, however, was a rather vulgar demand for a place in Scottish football that was never really merited. Boasts of crowds of 4,000 when around 3,000 were free tickets and asset stripping vulnerable clubs, such as Raith, were never really going to endear the club to its rivals. However, when it's seen that this was all being done with money the club never had - and has happened on at least three occasions now - then it's even harder to take. From inception Livingston FC has been a parasite. Clubs were forced to stand back, as in the case with Gretna, while Livi swept all before them in a relentless march to where they thought was their rightful position. I recall the pontificating about how other clubs were being run in the dark ages, and how Livi FC deserved their success as they were pioneering innovative and imaginative business models. I recall thinking how nice it must have been to have the Local Authority building the stadium for you, and not be lumbered with the demands of trying to meet the burdens faced over a period encompassing three centuries, ironic now that it's that questionable act of benevolence that could spell the end for the club. So forgive me if Livingston fans have to go cold turkey, have to face the reality that Scottish football is not one endless League Cup Trophy or soujorn into European football, after another. It's still early enough in the history of the club, that supporters can elect to support yet another club. Perhaps Livingston will regenerate and rise through the ranks to a sustainable level, ensuring the club still have representation in the SFL. To be honest, who cares - Scottish Football will survive without Livingston FC. I wonder if the success junkies will handle it however... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingfaetheSooth Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 FFS, you're not going to bother raising funds because it's not the "preferred option"???And why would you have to pass on any funds raised to Massone OR the club at this stage?? They're expecting MacDougall to put his money in - rather than their own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 The only thing more we could do is to organise fundraising ideas for any potential trust takeover which is not the most prefered option over McDougall taking over. The reason why we are limited to that is that we are trying to bleed Massone and unfortunately in turn the club dry so that he realises that the club cannot function while he is in charge. That is the reason why the comically bad figure of "£149.50" was raised from the appeal, not because people don't care.Hopefully the meeting will show him this in an instant rather than how we were dragging it out. But it wont. Whatever happens Massone will twist it in his favour. Either not enough people will turn up, or he'll blame fractions in the support, or even better, someone will have a go at him and give him an excuse to walk away from the meeting and claim that he was right all along and that the supporters cant be trusted/talked to. Massone hasnt called this meeting to get everyone round the table to discuss the future. He's called it to manipulate the situation to his benefit. The problem for the fans is he holds all the cards and only has himself to worry about. The fans, on the other hand, have no bargaining power and nothing Massone wants. They also have too many voices. Too may opinions and egos who'll want to be heard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Nomi Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 The only thing more we could do is to organise fundraising ideas for any potential trust takeover which is not the most prefered option over McDougall taking over. The reason why we are limited to that is that we are trying to bleed Massone and unfortunately in turn the club dry so that he realises that the club cannot function while he is in charge. That is the reason why the comically bad figure of "£149.50" was raised from the appeal, not because people don't care.Hopefully the meeting will show him this in an instant rather than how we were dragging it out. I understand your point about trying to bleed Massone and trying to make realise that the club cannot function with him in charge. However, it appears that any organised meeting to show Massone that he is not wanted has not been well attended (was there not one the other saturday when very few "fans" turned up?) that's my point, it seems like not enough people care the way you apparently do? If that is the case then I cant really see much of a future for Livi FC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) http://www.livingstonfc.co.uk/news_010709_1.php What the fcuk? Read this article from the Livvy official website, and take in the nature of the language used. What kind of ignornant, arrogant cnuts are in charge of this shambles of a club? You'd think wee innocent Livvy were being raped up the arse by the big bad world who are all out to sabotage them. The cnuts in charge need a fcuking slap across the ashet and a police escort to Edinburgh Airport for the first flight out to Italy. I feel for honest hard working people at Almondvale like the office girls, cleaners, groundsman and the like - but really....fcuk off and die. Any club with chunts like that in charge deserve to die - as if it wasn't bad enough having a history that embraces Dominic Keane, David Hay, Pearse Flynn, and a dumbass lottery winner who was actually raped up the ass, but didn't realise it until it was too late. Cheerio and GTF. Take your fcuking drummer and Lion mascot and just GTF. Edited July 2, 2009 by pozbaird 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 http://www.livingstonfc.co.uk/news_010709_1.phpWhat the fcuk? Read this article from the Livvy official website, and take in the nature of the language used. What kind of ignornant, arrogant cnuts are in charge of this shambles of a club? You'd think wee innocent Livvy were being raped up the arse by the big bad world who are all out to sabotage them. The cnuts in charge need a fcuking slap across the ashet and a police escort to Edinburgh Airport for the first flight out to Italy. I feel for honest hard working people at Almondvale like the office girls, cleaners, groundsman and the like - but really....fcuk off and die. Any club with chunts like that in charge deserve to die - as if it wasn't bad enough having a history that embraces Dominic Keane, David Hay, Pearse Flynn, and a dumbass lottery winner who was actually raped up the ass, but didn't realise it until it was too late. Cheerio and GTF. Take your fcuking drummer and Lion mascot and just GTF. Turns out we didnt need 141 pages after all - everything very nicely summed up on one post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MacLean Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 FAO Charles Darwin EsqI think it's fair to say that Livingston was founded, and have subsequently existed, on an addictive lust for success. The conveyor belt of new owners wanting to make the club the 'third force in Scotland', the endless problems paying players, management staff, transfer fees etc all designed to desperately cling on to this misguided notion that Livingston are a viable option anywhere near the SPL. Supporters of most clubs see their team go through ups and downs. A large percentage actually don't really enjoy too many ups! Livingston FC, however, was a rather vulgar demand for a place in Scottish football that was never really merited. Boasts of crowds of 4,000 when around 3,000 were free tickets and asset stripping vulnerable clubs, such as Raith, were never really going to endear the club to its rivals. However, when it's seen that this was all being done with money the club never had - and has happened on at least three occasions now - then it's even harder to take. From inception Livingston FC has been a parasite. Clubs were forced to stand back, as in the case with Gretna, while Livi swept all before them in a relentless march to where they thought was their rightful position. I recall the pontificating about how other clubs were being run in the dark ages, and how Livi FC deserved their success as they were pioneering innovative and imaginative business models. I recall thinking how nice it must have been to have the Local Authority building the stadium for you, and not be lumbered with the demands of trying to meet the burdens faced over a period encompassing three centuries, ironic now that it's that questionable act of benevolence that could spell the end for the club. So forgive me if Livingston fans have to go cold turkey, have to face the reality that Scottish football is not one endless League Cup Trophy or soujorn into European football, after another. It's still early enough in the history of the club, that supporters can elect to support yet another club. Perhaps Livingston will regenerate and rise through the ranks to a sustainable level, ensuring the club still have representation in the SFL. To be honest, who cares - Scottish Football will survive without Livingston FC. I wonder if the success junkies will handle it however... A perfect summation of Livingston Football Club in five articulate paragraphs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl024 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 The only thing more we could do is to organise fundraising ideas for any potential trust takeover which is not the most prefered option over McDougall taking over. The reason why we are limited to that is that we are trying to bleed Massone and unfortunately in turn the club dry so that he realises that the club cannot function while he is in charge. That is the reason why the comically bad figure of "£149.50" was raised from the appeal, not because people don't care.Hopefully the meeting will show him this in an instant rather than how we were dragging it out. You must be bloody deluded, you need every penny you can scrape together if your to get out of this. How much money have the Livi Supporters groups collected "unofficially" behind Massone's back? Doing nothing is football suicide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zupa Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 That is the reason why the comically bad figure of "£149.50" was raised from the appeal, not because people don't care. £150 actually (I sent in the remainder). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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