Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 16 hours ago, Axle Grease said: Just wondered. There are 3 structures in the vicinity that have a level of listing, the railway viaduct, the ex-church across the road and for some bizarre reason Balwearie High School. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I thought the main stand was grade 2 on account of its L shape? What architectural relevance is Balwearie? I thought it was a standard 1960s school building which is probably showing its age by now. It definetly was 25 years ago when I was last there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahoorsir Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Balwearie is listed because it was designed to look like an ocean liner apparently! Inverkeithing High is also listed as it was designed to look like a tractor from the sky. It’s absolutely bizarre. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, pub car king said: I thought the main stand was grade 2 on account of its L shape? What architectural relevance is Balwearie? I thought it was a standard 1960s school building which is probably showing its age by now. It definetly was 25 years ago when I was last there. I had to look up listed buildings in the area too...and thought the exact same thing. https://www.fife.gov.uk/kb/docs/articles/planning-and-building2/built-and-natural-heritage/listed-buildings 21 Pratt Street (category C) is the manse for the former Invertiel Church, the Viaduct and the School are both B’s. The school was listed in 2014 for the following reason: Balwearie High School (1960-64) is among the very best examples of school building of the post-war building period in Scotland, closely following Modernist design principles and marking a clear break from the more formal designs of the inter-war period and 1950s. The design is distinguished by its close attention to architectural detail, making use of Modernist architectural devices including concrete pilotis supporting the main concrete superstructure with its glazed curtain walls. There are elevated walkways and linking corridors; angular projections and glazed cut-outs; roof-top classrooms and a nautical theme running through the design detail, all adding to its period interest. The building uses modern materials throughout to excellent design effect, particularly within the context of the budgetary constraints associated with publically funded school building programmes of the period. The centralised plan and linked blocks are articulated in response to its site and orientation. It is a forerunner to the megastructural approach to architecture that would find increasing favour in 1970s architecture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embow Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) On 27/09/2020 at 20:42, Axle Grease said: Is that corner stand at Starks a listed building? No, but it should be in my book as it was designed by the Scottish architect Archibald Leitch, along with many others throughout the land, many which have been now changed beyond all recognition with the modern stadia changes/improvements, e.g. Tynecastle, White Hart Lane, Bramall Lane. Edited September 29, 2020 by embow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, embow said: No, but it should be in my book as it was designed by the Scottish architect Archibald Leitch, along with many others throughout the land, many which have been now changed beyond all recognition with the modern stadia changes/improvements. The only issue there would be the handicap such a designation might place on any changes or development at SP. I’d hate to see the Main Stand significantly changed, but with a Listing, even minor things can be problematical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) https://www.historicenvironment.scot/advice-and-support/listing-scheduling-and-designations/listed-buildings/search-for-a-listed-building/ if you want to check on listed buildings. Click on the wee pink or blue circles and you can find out about the listed buildings and why they are listed. Edited September 29, 2020 by Scary Bear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 28/09/2020 at 14:04, shahoorsir said: Balwearie is listed because it was designed to look like an ocean liner apparently! Inverkeithing High is also listed as it was designed to look like a tractor from the sky. It’s absolutely bizarre. http://portal.historicenvironment.scot/designation/LB52202 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 28/09/2020 at 16:24, TxRover said: I had to look up listed buildings in the area too...and thought the exact same thing. https://www.fife.gov.uk/kb/docs/articles/planning-and-building2/built-and-natural-heritage/listed-buildings 21 Pratt Street (category C) is the manse for the former Invertiel Church, the Viaduct and the School are both B’s. The school was listed in 2014 for the following reason: Balwearie High School (1960-64) is among the very best examples of school building of the post-war building period in Scotland, closely following Modernist design principles and marking a clear break from the more formal designs of the inter-war period and 1950s. The design is distinguished by its close attention to architectural detail, making use of Modernist architectural devices including concrete pilotis supporting the main concrete superstructure with its glazed curtain walls. There are elevated walkways and linking corridors; angular projections and glazed cut-outs; roof-top classrooms and a nautical theme running through the design detail, all adding to its period interest. The building uses modern materials throughout to excellent design effect, particularly within the context of the budgetary constraints associated with publically funded school building programmes of the period. The centralised plan and linked blocks are articulated in response to its site and orientation. It is a forerunner to the megastructural approach to architecture that would find increasing favour in 1970s architecture. Beat me to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 28/09/2020 at 13:30, pub car king said: I thought the main stand was grade 2 on account of its L shape? What architectural relevance is Balwearie? I thought it was a standard 1960s school building which is probably showing its age by now. It definetly was 25 years ago when I was last there. Aye, and we’re stuck with it now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raith1974 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, embow said: No, but it should be in my book as it was designed by the Scottish architect Archibald Leitch, along with many others throughout the land, many which have been now changed beyond all recognition with the modern stadia changes/improvements, e.g. Tynecastle, White Hart Lane, Bramall Lane. The stands a dump it offers nothing for fans, limited viewing with pillars uncomfortable seating and facilities underneath or behind that provide limited income to the club. If we ever had the money I would knock it down bring the entire stand up to the pitch line, provide corporate facilities with boxes etc in a modern stand and utilise the whole area for trying to increase income. Will not happen as we dont have the money though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Rover Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, raith1974 said: The stands a dump it offers nothing for fans, limited viewing with pillars uncomfortable seating and facilities underneath or behind that provide limited income to the club. If we ever had the money I would knock it down bring the entire stand up to the pitch line, provide corporate facilities with boxes etc in a modern stand and utilise the whole area for trying to increase income. Will not happen as we dont have the money though. That's the plan for the railway stand I believe, cant see us picking the main stand over the railway stand for refurbishment. Although it would be nice to see both of the stands refurbished. I am still hoping for a massive lottery win... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brashy's Boots Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 The stands a dump it offers nothing for fans, limited viewing with pillars uncomfortable seating and facilities underneath or behind that provide limited income to the club. If we ever had the money I would knock it down bring the entire stand up to the pitch line, provide corporate facilities with boxes etc in a modern stand and utilise the whole area for trying to increase income. Will not happen as we dont have the money though.No one who has that sort of money is going to put it into a football club these days without some mahoosive quid pro quo. And it's the quid pro quo that does the damage. Look what Anelka et al did with much less. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, raith1974 said: The stands a dump it offers nothing for fans, limited viewing with pillars uncomfortable seating and facilities underneath or behind that provide limited income to the club. If we ever had the money I would knock it down bring the entire stand up to the pitch line, provide corporate facilities with boxes etc in a modern stand and utilise the whole area for trying to increase income. Will not happen as we dont have the money though. The Main Stand is very CoS; stark, plain, and uncomfortable. It’s also a huge part of RR history and heritage, and I wouldn’t want it knocked down. If we had the money I’d go with improvements on the north and south stands and redevelopment of the whole railway side. Add in some stuff around/in front of the Main Stand and keep it as a nod to the heritage. It’s not like we need the seating if we do the rest. 1 hour ago, Brashy's Boots said: 2 hours ago, raith1974 said: No one who has that sort of money is going to put it into a football club these days without some mahoosive quid pro quo. And it's the quid pro quo that does the damage. Look what Anelka et al did with much less. The exception would be a lottery winner with generous intent...too bad they are few and far between. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 @TxRover you've not come across any unclaimed oil in texas then? Get looking! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, grumswall said: @TxRover you've not come across any unclaimed oil in texas then? Get looking! It's just a matter of time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 hours ago, grumswall said: @TxRover you've not come across any unclaimed oil in texas then? Get looking! They didn’t renew my gas lease, sorry...but I will commit 10% of any lottery winnings to the Rovers, for community ownership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebanda's Handyman Services Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 14 hours ago, raith1974 said: The stands a dump it offers nothing for fans, limited viewing with pillars uncomfortable seating and facilities underneath or behind that provide limited income to the club. If we ever had the money I would knock it down bring the entire stand up to the pitch line, provide corporate facilities with boxes etc in a modern stand and utilise the whole area for trying to increase income. Will not happen as we dont have the money though. Totally agree with this. Sentimentality shouldn't be counter-active to progression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Good to see Bowie called up to the u19 squad. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Spot the grandson of Lou. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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