The New Raith Rovers Thread

[kirkcaldybanjo111]

I think we should leave all the young ones with the drums up the back of the south stand and move all the old moaning——ts to the railway stand.

[SirJimmyofNic]

Hamilton has probably attracted interest from clubs in that same league or maybe higher, if he re-signs for Livi we can only hope the let him come to us on loan  

[da_no_1]

1 hour ago, Rovers_Lad said:

Even more laughable is this rovers supporter believed what Bene allegedly told him

Fits the standard "Dunfermline still pishing money up the wall" narrative. So totally believable for some.

[Rovers_Lad]

3 minutes ago, kirkcaldybanjo111 said:

I think we should leave all the young ones with the drums up the back of the south stand and move all the old moaning——ts to the railway stand.

This

[Rovers_Lad]

1 minute ago, da_no_1 said:

Fits the standard "Dunfermline still pishing money up the wall" narrative. So totally believable for some.

Possibly but some believe anything  there told down the high street or in a pub

[Lang Toun Lad]

Where has everyone seen the pictures of the plans for the main stand? Is it in the interview with Sim and the new guys? I was only listening to that.

[Ro Sham Bo]

1 minute ago, Lang Toun Lad said:

Where has everyone seen the pictures of the plans for the main stand? Is it in the interview with Sim and the new guys? I was only listening to that.

Yeah it was in the interview. 

[Hank Scorpio]

2 minutes ago, Lang Toun Lad said:

Where has everyone seen the pictures of the plans for the main stand? Is it in the interview with Sim and the new guys? I was only listening to that.

Only thing from the interview is this mock up of what the new outside of the main stand might look like. 
 

[Brashy's Boots]

32 minutes ago, kirkcaldybanjo111 said:

I think we should leave all the young ones with the drums up the back of the south stand and move all the old moaning——ts to the railway stand.

I need a seat with a back on it sonny.

[raith1974]

I think if the club are looking to speak to the young team and provide them with flags etc as per the interview then seating them in the railway stand would create an atmosphere. The stadium lacks atmosphere at the best of times. Surely if we can put a product on the pitch the South stand will have its own atmosphere with or without the young team.

[Hank Scorpio]

10 minutes ago, raith1974 said:

I think if the club are looking to speak to the young team and provide them with flags etc as per the interview then seating them in the railway stand would create an atmosphere. The stadium lacks atmosphere at the best of times. Surely if we can put a product on the pitch the South stand will have its own atmosphere with or without the young team.

It was absolute dreadful for about 10 years before they decided to come along. 

[Raith Against The Machine]

I'm a few days behind the curve, but I've finally managed to finish listening to the extended interview with Sim, Barrowman and Kilgour. 

My main reaction is the same as the others I saw on here and elsewhere; the overwhelming feeling I took from it was optimism. I know there's a general air of "that money could have been spent on another right back" whenever a new person joins the non-playing staff, but it sounds like we'll finally be moving away from the Committee set-up that has persisted for so long. We'll have actual professionals with actual experience doing actual jobs. And that's not a criticism of the volunteers and staff who have been in place prior to now, who frankly haven't had a fair chance of success. You've got a fairly unique, fairly high profile business and it's being run by the same small group of people who are having to wear all these different hats in all these different situations, with no clear structure or permanent leadership. 

Rather oddly, I liked how reluctant the two new guys were to make any kind of football-related promises. I'm putting words in their mouths, because they didn't say it explicitly, but the feeling I got was that they want to take the club to a point where the success on the park almost comes naturally. In as much as, you're not spending money directly on the park, you're spending it everywhere else so that the support structures exist to generate footballing success. And ultimately, it puts you in much better stead whatever happens on the park. We're in a position at the moment where, if we'd been relegated this season the club would be in disarray, and if we'd (somehow) been promoted, we'd be totally unprepared for that too. Folk won't like it, but we need to get closer to where Dunfermline are (and then, hopefully, go beyond it). They got relegated, didn't really change much including most of their squad, but brought in a competent manager and bounced right back. They've got a good structure, so one relegation isn't the end of the world. 

That said, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a relatively significant investment in the squad for next season. Just from a pure PR point of view, it's the best way to get the fans on-side. It seems like exactly the kind of thing this consortium will be keen to do. 

There are plenty of disastrous football club ownership sagas that began with fanfare and near-universal acclaim. There's absolutely nothing concrete that confirms that this won't end the same way. But everything we've seen and heard so far has ticked boxes for me. Nothing extravagant, nothing too "crowd-pleasy" right out of the gate, and a list of plans and projects that feel considered and well thought-out. Even just the way these guys are talking about the things they've looked at, it all sounds very reassuring. It's "This is an idea. This is who thought of it. This is the other person, and their background, who we've got looking into it now. This is why we hope it works. This is why it might not." Not to cast aspersions, but I don't feel like we'd be getting that kind of feeling if Mike Dellios was still around. It'd be "This is an idea. I saw it on Facebook. It was shared by a Chinese billionaire who is definitely my friend who exists." 

As with everything, the proof will be in the pudding, and there are shades of grey throughout. The new board, like the old, will be judged on what they can achieve, not on what they say. But the signs, as they're being shown to us now, look positive. It's worth saying that we've seen absolutely nothing of the fundamental principles underpinning this takeover. No percentages, no numbers, no plan for the ownership of the stadium going forward. But, based on what we've seen, I'm prepared to wait for that. Ruaridh and Andy asked the support to "come with us" and right now, I'm totally onboard, and I'm excited to see what's next.

Finally, at the risk of blowing smoke where I've blown it before, a word for Davie Hancock. Have you heard some of the clowns who do commentary and interviews for other club TV services? And can you imagine some of those gibbons trying to conduct an hour long interview with three members of their club hierarchy? It doesn't bear thinking about. But in Davie's hands you get sensible questions, the subjects are given more than enough space to get across what they feel they want to communicate, and I feel confident that the views of the support are being properly represented. A proper Rover. 

Edited May 8, 2023 by Raith Against The Machine

[San Starko Rover]

1 hour ago, kirkcaldybanjo111 said:

I think we should leave all the young ones with the drums up the back of the south stand and move all the old moaning——ts to the railway stand.

Certainly doesn’t seem to be much point of the board encouraging a group to create an atmosphere to then move them 70 meters away from the rest of our support.  Some folk just love to moan, are they wee fuds at times? Absolutely but they also create a bit of noise and get behind the team on the pitch. Give them a section at the back and if folk don’t want to be near it then move elsewhere.  It’s a bloody big stand there’s plenty space for everyone. The young lads have their moments of stupidity (who didn’t as a teenager) but it’s a vast improvement over a stand with zero atmosphere.  A team playing well on the park and a bit of atmosphere in the stand and who knows you might actually attract some new fans along. 

[Broken Algorithms]

37 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said:

Certainly doesn’t seem to be much point of the board encouraging a group to create an atmosphere to then move them 70 meters away from the rest of our support.  Some folk just love to moan, are they wee fuds at times? Absolutely but they also create a bit of noise and get behind the team on the pitch. Give them a section at the back and if folk don’t want to be near it then move elsewhere.  It’s a bloody big stand there’s plenty space for everyone. The young lads have their moments of stupidity (who didn’t as a teenager) but it’s a vast improvement over a stand with zero atmosphere.  A team playing well on the park and a bit of atmosphere in the stand and who knows you might actually attract some new fans along. 

The Motherwell game was the perfect example of the atmosphere being right. The lads at the back started it and over time more and more folk got I am involved. Obviously the score helped but by the end the place was bouncing.

The bigger issue for me with the atmosphere is when fully grown men will get apoplectic with rage over a misplaced pass. But that'll never change. 

[Beastie Russell]

3 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Only thing from the interview is this mock up of what the new outside of the main stand might look like. 
 

That looks horrible 

[Brashy's Boots]

37 minutes ago, Beastie Russell said:

That looks horrible 

What would you prefer? It's an eyesore at the moment. 

[raith1974]

44 minutes ago, Beastie Russell said:

That looks horrible 

It looks far better than it currently does.

[foreverarover]

9 hours ago, Broken Algorithms said:

And then you remember they're supported by Tony Dingwall. 

I'd not have the younger fans in the Railway Stand. Far better that they're at the back of the South Stand. Logistically it worked probably be a pain in the arse. Plus, if you put them in on their own. It'll just separate the noise. 

What about doing the silly thing with all this refurbishment and have us in the north stand. Utilise the stupid portacabin as a bar if we can close it off to the pitch side. 

[Beastie Russell]

5 hours ago, Brashy's Boots said:

What would you prefer? It's an eyesore at the moment. 

Given that this ‘mock up’ wasn’t done in a coupe of hours, can you give me 6 months to think about it

[Broken Algorithms]

7 hours ago, foreverarover said:

What about doing the silly thing with all this refurbishment and have us in the north stand. Utilise the stupid portacabin as a bar if we can close it off to the pitch side. 

It's a good shout but I think the main stand is quite deceptive in terms of how many people sit in there. Plus if we're turning the current office into a sports bar then there's also that.