DA Baracus Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alan H said: Answer the question, quote the part in post where I was apologising for Goodwillie, ie a 'rape apologist'? Yeah cos libel only applies to the rich and famous....jesus christ! Did anyone make it out of primary 7 here?? What primary school did you go to where they taught law? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, Alan H said: Give it up mate, that's 3 times you've proved my post was above your intellectual pay grade. You can keep questioning my intellect till the cows come home , it's empty words. You are the fool here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan H Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, DA Baracus said: What primary school did you go to where they taught law? But I'm not the one quoting the law here. You have just told me what libel is and isn't apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, Alan H said: quote the part where I'm apologising for anyone or I'll treat it as libel. You are a rape apologist. Literally cannot wait for the court papers to arrive. Tit 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Offt! Got to give it to some of the Raith fans who have come out swinging tonight. Fair play, still utter c***s right enough. To the rest of you guys, being a Pars supporter, I'm pretty proud to be Fifer. The majority of you guys have handled this with the dignity and respect it deserves. Utterly appalling position you've all been put in and my heart goes out to you. Do the right thing and get these fuckers out your club!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 God, this hasn’t half brought out the morons in our support. Agree with what someone else said earlier, McGlynn in that post match interview has the air of someone who knows he has fucked up. He was a hero at this club prior to this and could have walked away and been loved for how he’s turned us around twice. Now that legacy is fucked. He’ll always be the manager who signed Goodwillie and ripped our club apart. Even if the club see sense and backtrack on the signing, this will always remain a stain on McGlynn which is an awful thing to have to say. As for the 4 fuckwits on the Board who rubber stamped this, the sooner we get these morons out of our club the better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, MuckleMoo said: Offt! Got to give it to some of the Raith fans who have come out swinging tonight. Fair play, still utter c***s right enough. To the rest of you guys, despite being a Pars supporter, I'm pretty proud to be Fifer. The majority of you guys have handled this with the dignity and respect it deserves. Utterly appalling position you've all been put in and my heart goes out to you. Do the right thing and get these fuckers out you're club!! I’ve actually been taken aback by the decency of supporters of other clubs over this. It would be all too easy to just point and laugh, but the fact that so many have realised how devastating this is for much of our support. Fair play to each and every one of you. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJimmyofNic Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, roverthemoon said: God, this hasn’t half brought out the morons in our support. Agree with what someone else said earlier, McGlynn in that post match interview has the air of someone who knows he has fucked up. He was a hero at this club prior to this and could have walked away and been loved for how he’s turned us around twice. Now that legacy is fucked. He’ll always be the manager who signed Goodwillie and ripped our club apart. Even if the club see sense and backtrack on the signing, this will always remain a stain on McGlynn which is an awful thing to have to say. As for the 4 fuckwits on the Board who rubber stamped this, the sooner we get these morons out of our club the better. Couldn't agree more, and I wouldn't be re-newing the management contracts at seasons end either and not just for instigating this fiasco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, roverthemoon said: God, this hasn’t half brought out the morons in our support. It's simply how these threads evolve. 24 hours of folk posting perfectly reasonable points of view and when things quieten down attention-seeking wee INCELS like Alan has his other semi-literate pals crawl out from under their rocks. Quite what's missing in their lives that they need to hang their arses out on a discussion about a rapist for negative attention, I'm sure we could all hazard a guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys McCabe Hype Train Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Scottydog said: The John McGlynn post match interview. That's an interview from a man that's seriously fucked it up and he knows it. Well John the only way out is out. Could not agree more. The shuffling, the stuttering… unpleasant viewing. Not as unpleasant as signing a rapist, mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) If nothing else, this whole unfortunate episode has been extremely useful in showing everyone the posters they should block and ignore forever. Especially Alan H and his high powered legal team. Edited February 1, 2022 by Cardle is Magic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, Cardle is Magic said: If nothing else, this whole unfortunate episode has been extremely useful in showing everyone the posters they should block and ignore forever. Especially Andy H and his high powered legal team. It's @Alan H You should probably get that right lest he sues you because reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AsimButtHitsASix Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 Are people really so fucking dense as to wonder why this is bigger news now than when he signed for Clyde? Possibly but pretty sure it's whataboutery. If folk have genuinely not connected the dots... Clyde are fucking Clyde. Before signing Goodwillie they had people convicted of sexual offences on their books already. So it the seal had been broken. They were also at the bottom end of the 3rd division at the time. It's naw surprising that teams down at the arse end of the SPFL get less coverage than teams going for promotion to the top flight. It's not like (some) Clyde fans weren't against it at the time either or opposition fans didn't (and still do) hound them for it. Just on a smaller scale as they are a smaller club and playing against smaller clubs. And Clyde never had a world famous novelist (or an ex PM) discussing it publicly to their twitter followers. Val McDermid has a massive global reach so her opinion on the matter will have a greater reach than Stevie the taxi driver from Rutherglen. But even taking away the obvious reasons beyond the size of clubs, position in the league and scope of their famous supporters times have changed. The #MeToo movement really took off around the same time Goodwillie was standing in civic trial. That had massive changes to society and how we view sexual assault. Lots of people at that time would have dismissed this as people being a daft wee laddie or assuming the girl was making it up. For the majority those sort of outdated opinions and assumptions are no longer the case. And if that's the macro reason for more outcry compared to five year ago if we zoom in this is also the week a world famous player at one of the world's biggest clubs has been lifted: putting scrutiny on players behaviour again. It's not some weird anti-Raith conspiracy. It's not hypocritical. It's times and circumstances have changed. 31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, Day of the Lords said: It's @Alan H You should probably get that right lest he sues you because reasons. Thanks brother. Need to stay strong amidst this litigational nightmare. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverarover Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I'm not sure there's a way to force Sim to sell up but fan-ownership would be my preference going forward. He spunked the fans money on a transfer fee and wage for 2 1/2 years. I have always said the the money raised through the trust should have been saved and used to start a fan based ownership. Instead it disappears into the clubs funds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, stevoraith said: Have a think about it. Much easier for the women’s team players to act on their morals than the mens team given that they are not professionals who rely on the money earned to pay their mortgages and feed their kids. Slate the people who sanctioned the move all you want, but you can’t seriously expect young men to jeopardise their own employment? I would hope that some of the more senior players have raised their concerns in private (Jamie McDonald has daughters, I’m sure others will too) but I have no problem if we don’t hear them in public. I'm not asking them to quit their jobs or anything like that, I just think it will be fairly depressing if none of them are able to publicly poke their head above the parapet to express concerns. It would seem hugely unlikely that they would lose their jobs for doing so, I'm not sure the club would even have any legal route for doing so. Many of the Raith players would have their choice of clubs at this level if they did decide to leave anyway. If they choose to let this slide by then to me it basically says that they don't have any problem with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/with-a-racist-and-a-rapist-in-the-team-what-exactly-do-you-have-to-do-to-lose-your-place-at-clyde-how-bad-do-you-have-to-bepoliticians-claim-club-chairman-should-consider-his-position/ Oh look, politicians and organisations condemning Clyde in national newspaper coverage. Best try some other snivelling excuse than 'but no one minded when he was playing for Clyde' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 35 minutes ago, Alan H said: Yeah cos libel only applies to the rich and famous....jesus christ! Did anyone make it out of primary 7 here If only you had made it as far for someone to explain: Libel & Slander = Eng and Wales Defamation = Scotland 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Alan H said: But I'm not the one quoting the law here. You have just told me what libel is and isn't apparently. I've done no such thing. Where did I post a definition of libel? Retract that statement or my attorneys will subpoena this thread in their litigation suit against you. Anyway, what primary school did you attend that taught law? Edited February 2, 2022 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, candycelt said: What was the attendance like tonight? Was it notably less than usual? also, it’s really confused me the difference in reaction from Clyde to Raith fans. Think the signing is disgusting and feel for Raith fans, but its weird that I can’t remember there being much backlash from Clyde fans when he signed there and he’s seen as a hero there, whilst its caused Raith to lose several sponsors, board members etc. Anyone think of any reason why the two reactions to Goodwillie were so different? Find it weird man There was definitely a backlash at the time (I've just searched back to the relevant threads on here and the Clyde site to confirm as much), albeit nothing like the past two days. This thread has been far more heavily populated. I know that it wasn't a unanimous board decision and there was certainly a very mixed reaction when he came off the bench for his debut. I believe (though may be incorrect) it was mostly pushed by the ex-Chairman, who has exposed himself as having no moral standards in recent years and seemed to see himself as some great rehabilitator of both buildings and men (see his response to Ally Love's conviction for racially abusing Rabin Omar). In contrast to Raith, the atmosphere around Broadwood was already absolutely toxic at that point; we had won 1 in 18 league games, had binned Barry Ferguson and were heading for the Lowland League with a group of players who were actively hated. We also had absolutely no idea where we would be playing our matches, and there were numerous vultures trying to tear the club down from inside. Nearly everybody associated with Clyde was getting both barrels already from the dwindling few who remained interested; the truth is, I'm not sure that the remaining fans had the energy to turn their attention to protesting his signing as well, or if it would have generated any different noise to what was already happening. For most it was just another nail in the coffin (obviously it didn't quite turn out like that). A couple of other differences; he was also still awaiting the appeal, so there was maybe not the same expectation (or likelihood) that he would have shown remorse at that stage given it would have compromised the ongoing case. I don't know if it meant anything to anyone (it didn't to me), but he also originally signed as an amateur so he wasn't earning a living from being at Clyde. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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