R.R.FC Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I’ve heard there is another statement being released before the weekend. No idea if it is any form of U-turn or if it will be doubling down on the previous double down. I’m not really sure I see the point tbh. Unless it’s ‘We can confirm we have cancelled the contract of David Goodwillie’ which it won’t be then I don’t see how it can improve the situation. They will only make it worse as they did with their previous attempt. Even any form of apology is empty and doesn’t resolve anything at this stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus of the Mo Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Hursty said: The worrying thing is that a fair number of them probably think he hasn't done anything wrong and think the outrage is down to the 'woke brigade' etc and that he was just being "one of the lads, could have happened to anyone with a wee dirty" Exactly this, I got the same reply from a work colleague who thinks hes done nothing bad, just a night out gone wrong, he's suffered enough, we've all been there and woken up next to someone and thought wtf blah blah. There's a lack of attention to detail in someone who thinks like this and a lack of moral compass and compassion or its just lazy thinking and assumptions. Even if we dont agree with much of the WOKE brigade, and I don't take much interest in them, the stigma is hugely damaging to Raith, a lot of people are talking about this in their workplaces etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roath Raver Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, San Starko Rover said: Is a lot of it not through the college? A statement! The statement guy had probably resigned too. In terms of RaithTV, the volunteers that would do this have full time jobs who are committed Raith Rovers supporters, it was not done through the college. The equipment is the clubs. Edited February 3, 2022 by Roath Raver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, Firefoxer said: Have some back bone raith rovers! And sign the guy and play him! The case he was involved in was years ago and a overall flimsy case , no criminal charges were made and frankly he has every right to earn a living at his chosen job. All this garbage about footballers being role models is ridiculous. Goodwillie is an innocent man as our justice system proved. He raped someone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, R.R.FC said: I’ve heard there is another statement being released before the weekend. No idea if it is any form of U-turn or if it will be doubling down on the previous double down. I’m not really sure I see the point tbh. Unless it’s ‘We can confirm we have cancelled the contract of David Goodwillie’ which it won’t be then I don’t see how it can improve the situation. They will only make it worse as they did with their previous attempt. Even any form of apology is empty and doesn’t resolve anything at this stage. I'm surprised there is anyone left at Starks to leak anything. But, aye, in all seriousness there is nothing short of "he's fucked off" is going to help and even then that is someway short of what is needed now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Firefoxer said: Have some back bone raith rovers! And sign the guy and play him! The case he was involved in was years ago and a overall flimsy case , no criminal charges were made and frankly he has every right to earn a living at his chosen job. All this garbage about footballers being role models is ridiculous. Goodwillie is an innocent man as our justice system proved. Why did a judge rule that he was a rapist and order him to pay £100k to his victim? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, R.R.FC said: I’ve heard there is another statement being released before the weekend. No idea if it is any form of U-turn or if it will be doubling down on the previous double down. I’m not really sure I see the point tbh. Unless it’s ‘We can confirm we have cancelled the contract of David Goodwillie’ which it won’t be then I don’t see how it can improve the situation. They will only make it worse as they did with their previous attempt. Even any form of apology is empty and doesn’t resolve anything at this stage. Raith Rovers Football Club would like to release the following additional statement regarding the signing of David Goodwillie: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Roath Raver said: In terms of RaithTV, the volunteers that would do this have full time jobs who are committed Raith Rovers supporters, it was not done through the college. The equipment is the clubs. Niall, as someone who was close to the club, do you know if there are any volunteers who have not yet resigned their positions? Is there anyone left for example who would be used to posting updates to social media or the website? Edited to add- I understand if answering this feels uncomfortable so no pressure to respond. Edited February 3, 2022 by stevoraith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_t_b Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, Firefoxer said: Have some back bone raith rovers! And sign the guy and play him! The case he was involved in was years ago and a overall flimsy case , no criminal charges were made and frankly he has every right to earn a living at his chosen job. All this garbage about footballers being role models is ridiculous. Goodwillie is an innocent man as our justice system proved. Have you actually read the details of the civil case? He's a rapist, nothing flimsy about it 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MacLean Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Even if the remaining Directors of Raith Rovers believe that they have done nothing wrong in signing Goodwillie given the loss of sponsors etc. and the likely ongoing financial impact of this decision are they not in breach of their fiduciary duty to the Club if they continue down this route. I'm far from a legal expert but could that not be a starting point for their removal? Is there any mechanism to call a EGM? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 From my hopeless optimist point of view the club still have a very small window to stop the damage from spreading even further. A statement today or tomorrow admitting that they failed to act in accordance with the clubs stated values contained in the concordat, failed to appreciate the impact the signing would have on the Raith community and the women involved with Raith in particular, and that Goodwillie will never wear a Raith shirt is the bare minimum that is needed. A humble statement admitting they fucked up with no attempt at justification. As soon as his name is on a team sheet, even if he doesn't play, we are past he point of no return. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, roverthemoon said: No fan of Sturgeon, but as a Raith fan I’m absolutely fucking delighted she’s weighing in on this. Keeps it in the news and the pressure on the fuckwits who have just shat on our club I've got no great problem with people from outside the club weighing in. I do have a problem with someone who ignored the less than perfect behaviour of her mentor towards women, until they fell out, and whose Westminster chief whip (Patrick Grady) resigned pending investigation for alleged sexual misconduct (almost three years later the internal party investigation is incomplete) now suddenly saying their piece. Edited February 3, 2022 by Specky Ginger 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, John MacLean said: Even if the remaining Directors of Raith Rovers believe that they have done nothing wrong in signing Goodwillie given the loss of sponsors etc. and the likely ongoing financial impact of this decision are they not in breach of their fiduciary duty to the Club if they continue down this route. I'm far from a legal expert but could that not be a starting point for their removal? Is there any mechanism to call a EGM? I do wonder if the departure of all.the volunteers will be what forces the any u-turn. The club have lost about 30 of them and must be at the point where they are going to struggle to host home matches. Unfortunately, John Sim holds just about all of the voting power and he was prominent in making this move happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 So Benedictus becomes the first player to comment with some awkward sounding comments in the Courier. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/2972781/kyle-benedictus-david-goodwillie-raith-rovers/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John MacLean Posted February 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, Firefoxer said: Have some back bone raith rovers! And sign the guy and play him! The case he was involved in was years ago and a overall flimsy case , no criminal charges were made and frankly he has every right to earn a living at his chosen job. All this garbage about footballers being role models is ridiculous. Goodwillie is an innocent man as our justice system proved. This disgrace of a post shows just how much work still needs done to educate people about sexual violence. That there were no criminal case is a failing of the legal system. Scots Law requires corroboration. That's why it is so hard to prosecute rape cases. That needs to change. The civil action offered the victim some kind of justice and judgement that she was raped. It was a rigorous process. The evidence of twenty witnesses were heard. Many of which testified to her dangerous level of intoxication. Being drunk, of course, being no crime or an invitation to sexual violence. It does, however, mean that legally she was unable to provide consent. These two men took her to an empty house some miles from her home town. They didn't have sex 'with' her as that would involve consent. They did what they did and then left her. Vulnerably intoxicated, naked (she couldn't find her clothes the next morning) and with no knowledge of where she was. These two men raped her. End of. It makes me furious that the lack of a criminal case is used as a smokescreen to try and downplay what they did. 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said: So Benedictus becomes the first player to comment with some awkward sounding comments in the Courier. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/2972781/kyle-benedictus-david-goodwillie-raith-rovers/ Oh Christ. That doesn't help. Silence would have been better, at least we could have deluded ourselves that there was some dressing room revolt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Maybe it was better the players saying nothing. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said: So Benedictus becomes the first player to comment with some awkward sounding comments in the Courier. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/2972781/kyle-benedictus-david-goodwillie-raith-rovers/ Awkward in what way? He's pretty clear in what he's saying, it's just that what he's saying is absolutely awful. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Also, can we please just ignore the troll, repeating what is obvious to anyone with a grain of morals is becoming tedious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 The comments from Bene are exactly what I expected, btw. Yet another kick in the guts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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