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43 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Re-elected to the Senate for a second 3-year term. 

We have term limits 🤣 so I can't stand again after this. 

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As Steve Earle said, "There'll be no more FDR's......"

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With the Scottish Government clawing back funding for universities who didn’t fulfil their (pluck a number) quota, we’re likely to see degree courses close across the country with the concomitant targeted redundancies. Perfect, if you’re getting close to that 55-65 age bracket. Shite if you’re early to mid career.

Of course, those degree courses are more likely to be science and engineering, as opposed to basket weaving, flower arranging, and navel gazing.

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2 hours ago, mathematics said:

With the Scottish Government clawing back funding for universities who didn’t fulfil their (pluck a number) quota, we’re likely to see degree courses close across the country with the concomitant targeted redundancies. Perfect, if you’re getting close to that 55-65 age bracket. Shite if you’re early to mid career.

Of course, those degree courses are more likely to be science and engineering, as opposed to basket weaving, flower arranging, and navel gazing.

Aye because funding and investment hasn't been chucked at anything even plausibly 'STEM' adjacent at all over the past few decades. A bizarre rant tbh. 

Meanwhile, the unis appear to be 'resolving' this issue by  handing out unconditional offers like polo mints for next year's courses.

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8 minutes ago, virginton said:

Aye because funding and investment hasn't been chucked at anything even plausibly 'STEM' adjacent at all over the past few decades. A bizarre rant tbh. 

Meanwhile, the unis appear to be 'resolving' this issue by  handing out unconditional offers like polo mints for next year's courses.

Maybe if you studied science or engineering you’d be able to understand percentages. Back to your hole.

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On 18/05/2024 at 08:45, Suspect Device said:

That's my grades in. Pretty quick turnaround from the markers for a change. 82% for Film and Visual Culture and a 'disappointing' 68% for politics.

At least I know where I went wrong in the F&VC. The feedback of politics was pretty vague. Just gave the same schtick to all the papers who got a B. Lazy b*****d markers.

 

 

On 18/05/2024 at 19:58, scottsdad said:

I once took over a course...300 students all submitting 3000 word essays. That's almost a million words to read. And about 4 weeks to do it (as well as the rest of the job).

The feedback was utterly generic. Some students grumbled, some wanted an essay back on their submissions. 

The issue with that feedback is not that it's generic - it's that it doesn't differentiate which points of the description are relevant to the student's individual work falls into. So how can a student resolve those issues or develop their skills for the next assignment based on the feedback? 

A tick box system is absolutely fine if it clearly separates out the relevant marking criteria. Quality of analysis for example should quite clearly be assessed separate from structure - and the overall quality weighted between each point in the criteria. If a student's structure is the limitation, the separate check box can give a clear indication of this. 

That system is worse than lazy; it's completely unfit for purpose. 

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Just now, mathematics said:

Maybe if you studied science or engineering you’d be able to understand percentages. Back to your hole.

Except that there's no information to understand in your current old man yelling at a cloud display. 

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AI can beat real university students in exams, study suggests - BBC News

@scottsdad will not like this.

 

In other news and much as I hate to blow my own trumpet but...

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I get the feeling that it's because I was the only one of the 18 students on the course to actually go to all the lectures and tutorials so probably not as impressive as it sounds at first glance.

I did average 89% over the year so it wasn't just rewarding attendance.

Edit: And I didn't use AI to cheat on the essays.

 

 

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The team I am leading is trying to develop our own AI guidance. 

We cannot beat it in the future, so we have to find a way of incorporating it responsibly. 

That said, after a morning of disciplinaries, good to see old fashioned plagiarism still turning up. 

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39 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

The team I am leading is trying to develop our own AI guidance. 

We cannot beat it in the future, so we have to find a way of incorporating it responsibly. 

That said, after a morning of disciplinaries, good to see old fashioned plagiarism still turning up. 

 

Plagiarism seems to be getting worse. At least at my wife's work.

I've got to fill in some survey about using GenAI tools 'responsibly, ethically and effectively'. 🙃

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I work in a bank, we're having discussion about using AI to write code and come up with architecture designs

this won't end well

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The thing is, in my role I have to talk a lot with people in industry. AI is being used in the wider world already. One guy said they use it for repetitive tasks. Another said they use it to bring down word count in reports and submissions (re-writing, essentially). 

One (older) professor commented that this was like when calculators came in in the 70s and 80s. Loads of educators were dead set against them as it meant the pupils didn't have to do the actual calculation themselves. A vital, intrinsic skill lost. The discussions we're having now are similar. We need to adjust to the world as it is, and AI is part of it. 

QUite how we do that is what we're discussing now. 

 

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Students, a tip from me.

If you and three mates are accused of collusion in coursework because they are all so similar...don't collude in your written response as well. 

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Got 94/100 on my last assessment on my module, which got me a distinction overall. 

Buzzing doesn't begin to cover it

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On 27/06/2024 at 15:49, scottsdad said:

The team I am leading is trying to develop our own AI guidance. 

We cannot beat it in the future, so we have to find a way of incorporating it responsibly. 

That said, after a morning of disciplinaries, good to see old fashioned plagiarism still turning up. 

Plagiarism is also a valuable skill in real life. They just need to get better at it. Changing unusual phrases and removing indentifying details are the main thing. 

Along with "winging it" and "gaming the system" it's up there with top skills developed at university, way ahead of any academic bs. 

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Enrolled on the MSc Psychology Conversion. Open Uni has finally received BAP accreditation for their course. Was going to do the RGU one but other things got in way.

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Only just discovered this thread annoyingly as I would've enjoyed it while at uni.  Graduated last summer which is terrifying how long ago it was, effectively just been kicking the can down the road working in retail since then and ambitiously applying for jobs to no avail.  Might go back to do a post grad, or just teacher training - really missing it.  

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7 hours ago, RH33 said:

Enrolled on the MSc Psychology Conversion. Open Uni has finally received BAP accreditation for their course. Was going to do the RGU one but other things got in way.

Is this the one to cure gay people?

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