Freedom Farter Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, TxRover said: FYI, in the U.S., getting help is damn near impossible unless you're paying for it. Social services are terrible and support is overwhelmed anyway, so it's not a horrible idea...just saying. Sure, I'm well aware and I agree, there is something in this (in a US context). I phrased my comment above in the way that I did as I didn't want to outright agree with whoever has been tweeting about it because I haven't seen their tweets so they might be putting nonsense for all I know. Also I didn't want to come across as attempting to rebut the comments above mine as they're all very reasonable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Actually, I'll put that better: Obviously no self-identifying socialist should be defending a company like Doordash given how much it exploits its workers. However, I can understand the desperation a working class disabled person in USA feels and I can see why they'd feel the need to defend Doordash given the lack of state services available to them. They're still wrong but I sympathise with what led them to that stance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) Sometimes I wonder if I'm missing out not having social media, then I read this thread. Get back to posting daft videos please. Edited March 26 by jimbaxters 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Finding it very hard to give a shit about Americans getting bagels delivered, but it's good to know the Mail and Express will soon have something to replace avocado toast and transgenderism in the never-ending War Against Young People. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Ship hits bridge pier in Baltimore. Bridge down. Sair yin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 16 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Ship hits bridge pier in Baltimore. Bridge down. Sair yin. Pilot error IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peil Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 That's a very big port now closed, for months 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Ship hits bridge pier in Baltimore. Bridge down. Sair yin. Doesn't look great, should a bridge that big really collapse like that when one pillar is taken out, thought it might be a bit more resistant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Thoughts and prayers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, 101 said: Doesn't look great, should a bridge that big really collapse like that when one pillar is taken out, thought it might be a bit more resistant. Big boats don't bend steel beams. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: Pilot error IMO. Back to the training room for Marwa Elselehdar I reckon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 42 minutes ago, D Angelo Barksdale said: I'm just imagining the meeting where the cops try to sort out who has to take the bodies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 26 minutes ago, 101 said: Doesn't look great, should a bridge that big really collapse like that when one pillar is taken out, thought it might be a bit more resistant. I suppose it would when the support's taken away, but you'd think the pillars would be strong enough to survive an accidental impact. Maybe that's just wishful thinking and all bridges are just as vulnerable. Considering how America's infrastructure has been rotting for decades through neglect, you have to wonder if this will end up being an example of a structure than was overdue repairs. Looks like bridges are built to last for about fifty years, and this one was approaching that age. IIRC, Baltimore's supposed to have a lot of poverty, so probably not considered a priority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 200 thousand tons hitting something sideways whose main strength is resisting vertical forces could do a bit of damage. Looks like the ship lost power so couldn't steer but still with huge momentum, you'd have thought tugs would be compulsory to lead it out of the harbour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: 200 thousand tons hitting something sideways whose main strength is resisting vertical forces could do a bit of damage. Looks like the ship lost power so couldn't steer but still with huge momentum, you'd have thought tugs would be compulsory to lead it out of the harbour. It lost power twice by the looks of it. Regained power for a second time far, far too late to avoid collision though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I doubt many structures would do well being hit by a container ship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 US infrastructure is fucked due to combinations of piss poor design, years of neglect and underfunded maintenance. Loads of older bridges have f**k all in terms of collision protection around piers in shipping lanes (Tay Road bridge was only upgraded a few years ago) and were probably never designed to withstand an out of control ship full of containers of whatever Baltimore is famous for these days. Plus if it was made of concrete, it would still be standing*. Spoiler * it would have fell down years ago due to chloride induced corrosion of prestressing tendons as Americans know f**k all about concrete. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Totally different scale boat, but clearly the US need to employ @Melanius Mullarkey's Korean cousin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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