Unpopular opinions.

[ICTChris]

Much of the anger with her parallels very closely what was directed at the Stoneman Douglas survivors when they decided to campaign for gun control.

The vitriol about her is part of the dreary, inexorable March of the culture wars. Lots of the usual suspects also like to create outrage on the back of her building their personal brands as horrible Col Blimps. That works both ways as well, people then automatically back her because of who is slating her and everyone turns up the dial until you have one side saying she is a dead eyed Nazi and the other saying she is Jesus.

I try not to think about the present in terms of how future generations see us but I can’t help wondering what will happen in ten years if we aren’t all on fire and reenacting Mad Max. We will look back on this and a few other things in a puzzled manner.

[DiegoDiego]

This is what's going on just now.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2019/09/22/accept-neighbours-help-to-fight-haze-now-jakarta-post-urges-indonesia/1793096
Indonesia will do hee haw to change the situation because doing so would require their government to actually think of an economic solution that gives people in the burn zones an alternative way to make money. It's much easier to just turn a blind eye to the situation, claim there's nothing can be done and stand by idly as millions of people are poisoned every year.
The long-term impact of this is heart attacks, cancer and stunted growth. Every year people actually die in August and September because of this haze. Just last week a wee girl died. This is not some far off dystopian future. This is happening this very instant and it happens every year.
Indonesia is far from alone. Governments and corporations the world over are choosing to poison the planet and kill people to make money.
This time next year exactly the same thing will be happening here. Children are growing up with this. Many of them will die early because of it.

To be fair it's made the main evening news over here so at least it's not going unnoticed by the rest of the world.

[LincolnHearts]

[coprolite]

6 hours ago, Savage Henry said:

 

I think the real issue is that a 16 year old kid is having to take the podium because so many adults have negated their responsibilities on the issue. The fact that so many white men are so outraged by her very existence is great, but most of those men would take offence at anything she said.

I see Donald Trump is now having a pop at her. Good on Greta, I say, but shame on the adults in the “green” movement who have failed to stand up.

 

Donald trump is many things, but white is not one of them. More terracotta or burnt sienna imo. 

[DA Baracus]

We've lost the climate change battle.

Earth is fucked. The tipping point has been reached and all we can is try and slow down the damage being done. That's the battle now and we're losing it. 

Money has won out and always will. The biggest contributors to climate change (those doing the most damage) make top much money to even care let alone stop. It's short sighted idiocy but if folk are coining it in they just won't care.

If we could monetise stopping climate change then it would be stopped very quickly.

[Donathan]

16 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

We've lost the climate change battle.

Earth is fucked. The tipping point has been reached and all we can is try and slow down the damage being done. That's the battle now and we're losing it. 

Money has won out and always will. The biggest contributors to climate change (those doing the most damage) make top much money to even care let alone stop. It's short sighted idiocy but if folk are coining it in they just won't care.

If we could monetise stopping climate change then it would be stopped very quickly.

 

Agreed, I've been saying for years that whilst we can all do our bit by recycling and trying to minimise our car travel, we're at a point where stopping climate change isn't happening and I think it's more realistic to try and adapt to live in a warmer climate society.

[Lee Van Tee]

On 24/09/2019 at 07:47, Bairnardo said:

Because Thunberg is so young, the media have no opportunity to push her off message and sabotage her with sketchy indiscretions from her past, real examples of hypocrisy. There is purity in what she is doing. This is why so many grown adults in positions of power have resorted to trying to belittle her as a child etc. It will get more vicious the more she gets her message across, but it can and never have substance and will just make more and more people look fucking ridiculous.

Case in point, an idiot like Malky digging out a 16 year old lassie because of the mode of transport she used, whilst she was on her way to take strips off the leaders of the planet with billions of eyes watching. Greta Thunberg represents a magnet. One pole attracting millions to her cause, the other pole drawing in idiots and making sure we all know who the idiots are.

I approve.

I was very uncomfortable watching her latest speech and now feel she is being used. She's obviously a very unstable teenage girl and I wish she could take a break from her activism although I doubt this will happen.

If she continues down this road I fear it is going to make her very ill.

[8MileBU]

‘Discotheque’ is the best U2 song.

[Dons_1988]

Not sure U2 have a best song tbh

[8MileBU]

Not sure U2 have a best song tbh

Aye they do. ‘Discotheque’.

[pozbaird]

This also seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I believe R.E.M. did a lot of good work after ‘Automatic For The People’.

[19QOS19]

‘Discotheque’ is the best U2 song.

Nah, Bad is better.

[Highland Capital]

2 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

36 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:

‘Discotheque’ is the best U2 song.

Nah, Bad is better.

'A Sort of Homecoming' for me.  U2 seem to be one of those bands that are scorned by those who haven't heard much of their music.

Edited September 25, 2019 by Highland Capital

[doulikefish]

All this Ricksen shite is a pile of pish.He was an absolute roaster

[Dons_1988]

All this Ricksen shite is a pile of pish.He was an absolute roaster

It’s over the top and I don’t indulge it but we’re still talking about a young man and his family going through suffering you can’t really imagine.

And I’m guessing you don’t really know anything about him personally other than what you’ve seen in the media.

[Trackdaybob]

44 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

Not sure U2 have a best song tbh

They do; but it was a very long time ago. 

[doulikefish]

Correct i knew him about as much as these halfwits on tv crying and stuff.Its princess di shite

It’s over the top and I don’t indulge it but we’re still talking about a young man and his family going through suffering you can’t really imagine.

And I’m guessing you don’t really know anything about him personally other than what you’ve seen in the media.

[Dons_1988]

Correct i knew him about as much as these halfwits on tv crying and stuff.Its princess di shite

Princess di, now that was a lot of shite.

[ICTChris]

I’m glad I lived through Princess Diana dying, truly a moment where the world went mad.

[pozbaird]

On the subject of U2... there used to be a record shop in Paisley called ‘Listen’, there was also one at the bottom of Renfield St in Glasgow. I went in there one day, could have been 79/80? The young bloke working there was over from Dublin, and he was playing a record on which the sound of the guitar knocked me out. I had no idea who they were so asked, and he said they were this new young Irish band that were kicking about over there. The song was ‘11 o Clock Tick Tock’. Have absolutely loved them since that day. I went to see U2 in Strathclyde University when they came over in 1981. Ticket was £1.75. Spoke to Bono after the gig, and he wasn’t an arse at all. Then I saw them in Tiffany’s Ballroom... and the venues got bigger every year after that. My favourite U2 songs are Electric Co, The Unforgettable Fire, Vertigo, Running to Stand Still, and Even Better Than the Real Thing.

Edited September 25, 2019 by pozbaird