capybara Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I think the longer the campaign goes on the more the SNP can play the Salmond card. There was a story last week that some Scottish Labour Westminster MP,S were unhappy with the campaign and the Gray man. Another few dodgy polls and we will see the Labour wheels wobble and the dirty campaign will start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I think the longer the campaign goes on the more the SNP can play the Salmond card. There was a story last week that some Scottish Labour Westminster MP,S were unhappy with the campaign and the Gray man. Another few dodgy polls and we will see the Labour wheels wobble and the dirty campaign will start. It's not even the Salmond card. It's the "Labour haven't even got anyone better than Iain Gray" card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted April 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 3, 2011 It's not even the Salmond card. It's the "Labour haven't even got anyone better than Iain Gray" card. But most people don't even know who Iain Gray is, so he can't be having that much of an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 It's not even the Salmond card. It's the "Labour haven't even got anyone better than Iain Gray" card. That's because none of their decent politicians want to be pissing about at Holyrood. It's the equivalent of landing a high up gig at the old regional councils. Not bad, but not as good as a gig at Westminster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 But most people don't even know who Iain Gray is, so he can't be having that much of an impact. Yeah, but the point is they don't have ANYONE in the Shadow Cabinet who is instantly recognisable amongst all but the politically motivated and interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 That's because none of their decent politicians want to be pissing about at Holyrood. It's the equivalent of landing a high up gig at the old regional councils. Not bad, but not as good as a gig at Westminster. They are devoid of talent. They are losing there best MSP,s. The likes of Peacock and Hugh Henry will be missed. So we are left with Kerr hardly an economic guru and the likes of Johann Lamont ,who always gives you the impression she is chewing a wasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 http://www.scottishl...and-the-highest I love Labours scare mongering. Remember the last time the SNP was going to cost all Scottish families 5K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Today's Sunday Express seemingly came out in favour of an SNP vivtory - the Editor used his column to call on us to vote for them anyway - 'have they really done that badly to bring Labour back?' was the jist of his opinion. Can see a few papers come out SNP as well; would expect the Herald and Times to at least (in the later case probably more tactically). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Only 27% of Scots were able to identify Iain Gray when shown a photo of the Labour leader while 85% could name Mr Salmond. Did the picture of Iain Gray have his name printed at the bottom? I have to say, I'm sceptical. How did the polls go in just a couple months from Labour winning an overall majority, to the SNP being slightly ahead? Some pollsters seem to use Westminster voting intentions to weigh their polls, which is erroneous and wrongly downplays the SNP's existing support from 2007. I also very much doubt people were actually thinking about the Scottish elections when polled a few months back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Freud Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Did the picture of Iain Gray have his name printed at the bottom? Some pollsters seem to use Westminster voting intentions to weigh their polls, which is erroneous and wrongly downplays the SNP's existing support from 2007. I also very much doubt people were actually thinking about the Scottish elections when polled a few months back. I suspect that is bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I'm a Tory at heart but I'm swithering over voting whether voting for them or SNP in Edinburgh Western. Is anyone local enough to know who's most likely to beat the incumbent Lib Dems? I suspect it's the latter, but I'm not certain, given a few varying 2nd/3rd places in recent years in both Westminster and Hollyrood elections. In truth, I might even vote SNP in the regional vote to do my part to avoid another Labour Government under the disaster that is Iain Gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted April 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 3, 2011 ... who's most likely to beat the incumbent Lib Dems? The Tories, Labour, the SNP, the Greens, Operation Christian Vote, Colonel Gadaffi, UKIP, George Galloway, a Swampy and Ad Lib joint ticket, a man who wandered into the count by accident, three horses, a goat, a block of sandstone, and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 The Tories, Labour, the SNP, the Greens, Operation Christian Vote, Colonel Gadaffi, UKIP, George Galloway, a Swampy and Ad Lib joint ticket, a man who wandered into the count by accident, three horses, a goat, a block of sandstone, and me. Belter. I really wouldn't be surprised if they are still there though after the election, there's an army of Lib Dems here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 A Swampy and Ad Lib joint ticket As if I'd ever stand for your craven Micky Mouse Parliament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Belter. I really wouldn't be surprised if they are still there though after the election, there's an army of Lib Dems here. more like a battered platoon, after a heavy day's shelling from the Red Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 just everyone vote snp, if not for their policies at least just to f**k labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 just everyone vote snp, if not for their policies at least just to f**k labour. Probably first and last time I'm tempted to agree with one of your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 just everyone vote snp, if not for their policies at least just to f**k labour. Aye but fucking zombies will still vote labour in much of the west of Scotland. It's scary how it doesn't matter what gorilla in a suit they put up in most constituencies and end up being elected. Cuntos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Probably first and last time I'm tempted to agree with one of your posts. even a stopped clock will agree with my posts at least twice a day or something to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Yeah, but the point is they don't have ANYONE in the Shadow Cabinet who is instantly recognisable amongst all but the politically motivated and interested. I would doubt most normal people would recognise ANYONE apart from Salmond. It is about as high impact politically as the old regional councils. I bet none of the rabble knew who led those either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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