AlanCamelonfan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: The thing is it really shouldn't be that big a gamble at all for us. We're looking for a manager that can win the league with the biggest side by a mile in the league, the one with comfortably the biggest budget and facilities. He doesn't need to be an over achiever at this stage he just needs to meet the expectations the clubs size and finances produce. It should be a lot harder for the other 9 teams to find a manager to win them the league than us FFS. Our boy doesn't have to do a ranieri with Leicester. It's beyond belief that we can't find someone competent to win us the league given all the advantages they start of But it is difficult to build a team from scratch. If u had a core squad that you had something from to build from. Every player you have gets slated on here other than morrison. Being solid at the back and able to grind our results by getting down and dirty is what's going to get a team out of the league. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 But it is difficult to build a team from scratch. If u had a core squad that you had something from to build from. Every player you have gets slated on here other than morrison. Being solid at the back and able to grind our results by getting down and dirty is what's going to get a team out of the league.This team is delivering less than the sum of its parts, regardless of whether it looks objectively like a league winning squad or not. Its weak up top and in the centre of defence, but this squad should be capable of winning most weeks. The league is full of utter shite. The point is, no one is having to do anything clever to beat us, because our manager is not capable of instilling a coherent style or any intent whatsoever either in attack or defence. Just like the match thread yestersay im afraid this is a "take our word for it" scenario. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: The thing is it really shouldn't be that big a gamble at all for us. We're looking for a manager that can win the league with the biggest side by a mile in the league, the one with comfortably the biggest budget and facilities. He doesn't need to be an over achiever at this stage he just needs to meet the expectations the clubs size and finances produce. It should be a lot harder for the other 9 teams to find a manager to win them the league than us FFS. Our boy doesn't have to do a Ranieri with Leicester. It's beyond belief that we can't find someone competent to win us the league given all the advantages they start off. Indeed. We really only need a Deila with Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Hank von Hell said: Remember when we used to have Scottish Cup runs? Remember when we used to get to finals .....not that long ago. But a conveyor belt of incompetent deluded power mad fools who think they know how to run a football club have run us into the ground and we can't even compete with an average Raith Rovers side in a one off cup tie. Most commentators and observers think we're better than average -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 What I would give for us to be average right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Raith_Raver said: Most commentators and observers think we're better than average I would say rangers and Celtic are average at best the rest of Scottish football goes from shite to complete dross. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: But it is difficult to build a team from scratch. If u had a core squad that you had something from to build from. Every player you have gets slated on here other than morrison. Being solid at the back and able to grind our results by getting down and dirty is what's going to get a team out of the league. It's the spine of our side that's the problem. A decent centreback, midfielder and striker then you have players that are capable enough to play around them. The two fullbacks are fine and Dixon is ok. Telfer disappears too much but if he had a good hard midfielder beside him he'd be more consistent. Morrison is decent and okay you would probably want a better left winger but there is a basis there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: I would say rangers and Celtic are average at best the rest of Scottish football goes from shite to complete dross. There's an important thing called "context". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said: It's the spine of our side that's the problem. A decent centreback, midfielder and striker then you have players that are capable enough to play around them. The two fullbacks are fine and Dixon is ok. Telfer disappears too much but if he had a good hard midfielder beside him he'd be more consistent. Morrison is decent and okay you would probably want a better left winger but there is a basis there. I think centre half's across the board are getting fewer and fewer that's why you are getting quoted 5k for centre half's even at camelons level so Dare not ask what teams would be asking in league 1 and championship. Hardy midfield players seem to be getting fewer aswell. I think a lot of it stems for the way things are done at a young level. It's all passing and too much uncompetitive so the players that have been coming through are a different bread from 10 years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 The thing that sums up just now was when the Falkirk tv guy when oh no when the ball went through for the 2nd goal,even he knew what was coming 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: Hardy midfield players seem to be getting fewer aswell. I think a lot of it stems for the way things are done at a young level. It's all passing and too much uncompetitive so the players that have been coming through are a different bread from 10 years ago. They've still got to earn a crust. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said: The thing that sums up just now was when the Falkirk tv guy when oh no when the ball went through for the 2nd goal,even he knew what was coming Did you get a message about Sheerin this weekend? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: They've still got to earn a crust. I see what you did there It must do scouts pan in looking at all these plain players rising through the game. Players of old are toast! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: I think centre half's across the board are getting fewer and fewer that's why you are getting quoted 5k for centre half's even at camelons level so Dare not ask what teams would be asking in league 1 and championship. Hardy midfield players seem to be getting fewer aswell. I think a lot of it stems for the way things are done at a young level. It's all passing and too much uncompetitive so the players that have been coming through are a different bread from 10 years ago. Crumbs ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Suffering Bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Brian Rice is a non-starter. I believe it has been reported a number of times he is fighting a significant gambling problem which has interfered with his job in the recent past. Don't get me wrong, many of us have significant problems in one way or another, including me, but I am not looking to manage an organisation in a high pressure environment. Time to put his name to bed as an option for us and wish him the best for the future. Edited November 28, 2021 by Long Suffering Bairn mistake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: Crumbs ! Mark Warburton to be the new Falkirk Manager 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I think centre half's across the board are getting fewer and fewer that's why you are getting quoted 5k for centre half's even at camelons level so Dare not ask what teams would be asking in league 1 and championship. Hardy midfield players seem to be getting fewer aswell. I think a lot of it stems for the way things are done at a young level. It's all passing and too much uncompetitive so the players that have been coming through are a different bread from 10 years ago.I’m pretty sure we’d be willing to pay teams well in excess of 5k if they wanted to take Ben Hall or Brad McKay from us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejazz1 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I think some people in our club must be blind. It is plain obvious to me that as many have suggested on here the spine is the problem. Most of our leaked goals stem from central defence. The midfield although has skill has no dirtiness in it. We have no guts, strength or fight. Look at yesterdays midfield. Telfer, Morrison, McGuffie and Nisbett. Who is going to win the fighting ground only having Hetherington in there to combat the oppositionUp front. It’s again glaring that Ruth has not developed enough and is not physical and robust to cope with tall uncompromising defenders and Kenna?If there was a league table for passing sideways we would be top. But a team that lacks a cutting edge has no chance. What we need is a charismatic leader who can through his reputation encourage players to come to us. Forget about all this hierarchy nonsense and throw every are being promoted We have been a laughing stalk far too long. It’s time for serious change…again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Brian Rice is a non-starter. I believe it has been reported a number of times he is fighting a significant gambling problem which has interfered with his job in the recent past. Don't get me wrong, many of us have significant problems in one way or another, including me, but I am not looking to manage an organisation in a high pressure environment. Time to put his name to bed as an option for us and wish him the best for the future.Think we should let him be the judge of that tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 We really don’t need a Director of Football / Sporting Director so this role should be made redundant. Cheerio Gary Holt. Our Manager after a promising start now is clearly out of his depth and appears to be showing signs of stress if his concerning interviews are an accurate reflection of his mindset. The club may well be doing him a favour by moving him on. Cheerio Paul Sheerin. Brian Rice is not the man for me, very modest managerial career and unfortunately has off field baggage. It won’t happen but I would go for John Robertson, experienced, pretty successful and a decent profile within the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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