Guest Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Broken Algorithms said: . It's incredible that Falkirk have a team full of jobbers, and have lurched into a sixth place finish in league one but some of your fans still think you're better than McGlynn. With all respect, he was the man who signed Goodwillie. It was McGlynn that wanted him, it was McGlynn who pushed the Board to finance it. I think that makes an awful lot of people and clubs “better than McGlynn”. Middle of the pack manager he may well be, but he has also proved himself to be a bit of a tosser on more than one occasion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18BAIRN76 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) I hate to be bringing it up AGAIN, but his rumoured consideration deems it necessary. Is it genuinely outwith the realms of reasonableness that in 2022, we could expect a manager who knows that signing a rapist is wrong? The world has progressed a great deal, thankfully, and I really don’t think it’s asking for much. The overwhelming majority on here were, quite rightly, ready to give it properly tight to the board and Rennie if he signed for us. We all spoke at length about the bullet we dodged by not signing him. Funny how that seems to be being abandoned and forgotten here. Edited May 1, 2022 by 18BAIRN76 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passionate Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: Goodwillie was about 10 fucking minutes from signing for Falkirk before he signed for us ffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 McGlynn as manager combined with the current board just means the stench of the player I'd rather not mention is going to be hanging about the club a while longer.I'll pass thanks. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, 18BAIRN76 said: I hate to be bringing it up AGAIN, but his rumoured consideration deems it necessary. Is it genuinely outwith the realms of reasonableness that in 2022, we could expect a manager who knows that signing a rapist is wrong? The world has progressed a great deal, thankfully, and I really don’t think it’s asking for much. The overwhelming majority on here were, quite rightly, ready to give it properly tight to the board and Rennie if he signed for us. We all spoke at length about the bullet we dodged by not signing him. Funny how that seems to be being abandoned and forgotten here. The only difference though between mcglynn and Rennie, m and m and probably a good number of other managers is that the Raith bod said yes fill your boots. We are going to be restricted to a small amount of managers if one of the criteria is would never sign a player like goodwillie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latapythelegend Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, 18BAIRN76 said: I hate to be bringing it up AGAIN, but his rumoured consideration deems it necessary. Is it genuinely outwith the realms of reasonableness that in 2022, we could expect a manager who knows that signing a rapist is wrong? The world has progressed a great deal, thankfully, and I really don’t think it’s asking for much. The overwhelming majority on here were, quite rightly, ready to give it properly tight to the board and Rennie if he signed for us. We all spoke at length about the bullet we dodged by not signing him. Funny how that seems to be being abandoned and forgotten here. It's forgotten about because we've moved on FFS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said: The only difference though between mcglynn and Rennie, m and m and probably a good number of other managers is that the Raith bod said yes fill your boots. We are going to be restricted to a small amount of managers if one of the criteria is would never sign a player like goodwillie. Works for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioBairn Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: The only difference though between mcglynn and Rennie, m and m and probably a good number of other managers is that the Raith bod said yes fill your boots. We are going to be restricted to a small amount of managers if one of the criteria is would never sign a player like goodwillie. So did ours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JulioBairn said: So did ours Not at the price clyde were asking. Thankfully. Edited May 1, 2022 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Shadwell Dog said: If the bod leaked like a seive we'd know who the manager was now. Instead we have numerous rumours and he said she said on about 3 or 4 different names definitely getting the job. So their bullshitters then with their 'Was told' 'Got it on good authority' 'I know' Fine hopefully the appointment will expose the attention seekers for what they are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: So their bullshitters then with their 'Was told' 'Got it on good authority' 'I know' Fine hopefully the appointment will expose the attention seekers for what they are. That's what message boards are all about though mate. People bring rumours to the table you believe them at your own peril. It's not always attention seekers people may think they have a scoop but it turns out to be bollocks. Nothing to get too worried about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioBairn Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: Not at the price clyde were asking. Thankfully. So the asking price was the stumbling block and not the rape? And yet we are on here questioning others morals? f**k me. If McGlynn is appointed he’ll certainly have my backing. A much better manager than any of our last 4 or 5 appointments. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughsie Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: So their bullshitters then with their 'Was told' 'Got it on good authority' 'I know' Fine hopefully the appointment will expose the attention seekers for what they are. Back on ignore you go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 52 minutes ago, JulioBairn said: So the asking price was the stumbling block and not the rape? And yet we are on here questioning others morals? f**k me. If McGlynn is appointed he’ll certainly have my backing. A much better manager than any of our last 4 or 5 appointments. I will back him (and doing that by nothing more than buying a ST, and not criticising him until he fails which I suspect, is what most will do). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unused sub Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 I'm giving up going/watching football I'm a fecking loser, Falkirk and Leeds United need I say more. To f**k with football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said: Doubt Raith will offer him anything or they would have by now. He'll be elsewhere next season whether it's us or not who knows. Not sure about the unlikeable guy as I don't know him from Adam but he seems to get his team's playing for him and that's the main thing. As mentioned already, it’s reported we are near a deal…and you lot have mentioned a possible competing offer, so we’ll see. The majority of Raith fans would welcome him back, and most of the rest would tolerate it. The whole “situation” was a complete mess, but I think that JMcG’s part is over-rated somewhat, mainly because the BoD hung him out to dry after his statement by saying nothing (and they still haven’t). Yes, he pushed to sign DG, as a football manager looking at a football player. I honestly think he’s so myopically focused on football that he simply assumed that since DG had been playing for Clyde for a while the whole matter had “blown over”. A lot of the older fans seem to view the DG situation as overblown, possibly as a result of growing up in the boys will be boys era. That being said, I’d prefer we didn’t re-sign JMcG (of course, that is asking a BoD that I don’t trust to sort socks to hire a competent replacement, oy). I think he’s learned and developed from the fiasco, but I also think he’s nearly reached his ceiling. The literal collapse in the second half of the season was more than the loss of a player or two, but also an inability to adapt effectively to significant changes the rest of the league had made. At the League One level, that weakness is less significant, as there is much less budget and ability to make changes. For Falkirk, JMcG would likely be a good manager, IF given at least two seasons to rebuild the team and culture. He would certainly help you develop some young talent, and probably make the football more attractive, but is the patience there? His biggest other weakness is a over commitment to players that perhaps causes him to play them too much verses their productiveness. Or really sure where the unlikeable tag comes from, but he doesn’t suffer fools gladly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJimmyofNic Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 If anyone get get you out of league one then its McGlynn, given a couple of seasons, but unless our board have had the foresight (which I very much doubt) to have a higher quality replacement lined up, I can't see him leaving though unkess he himself wants a fresh start 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, TxRover said: As mentioned already, it’s reported we are near a deal…and you lot have mentioned a possible competing offer, so we’ll see. The majority of Raith fans would welcome him back, and most of the rest would tolerate it. The whole “situation” was a complete mess, but I think that JMcG’s part is over-rated somewhat, mainly because the BoD hung him out to dry after his statement by saying nothing (and they still haven’t). Yes, he pushed to sign DG, as a football manager looking at a football player. I honestly think he’s so myopically focused on football that he simply assumed that since DG had been playing for Clyde for a while the whole matter had “blown over”. A lot of the older fans seem to view the DG situation as overblown, possibly as a result of growing up in the boys will be boys era. That being said, I’d prefer we didn’t re-sign JMcG (of course, that is asking a BoD that I don’t trust to sort socks to hire a competent replacement, oy). I think he’s learned and developed from the fiasco, but I also think he’s nearly reached his ceiling. The literal collapse in the second half of the season was more than the loss of a player or two, but also an inability to adapt effectively to significant changes the rest of the league had made. At the League One level, that weakness is less significant, as there is much less budget and ability to make changes. For Falkirk, JMcG would likely be a good manager, IF given at least two seasons to rebuild the team and culture. He would certainly help you develop some young talent, and probably make the football more attractive, but is the patience there? His biggest other weakness is a over commitment to players that perhaps causes him to play them too much verses their productiveness. Or really sure where the unlikeable tag comes from, but he doesn’t suffer fools gladly. Surely his ceiling at the moment is raiths ceiling though. When you look at attendances and finance 5th place is probably about right for Raith having over achieved last season. Arbroath have skewed the positions a bit with their remarkable run but that won't happen every season. Noone really expected a club with dunfermlines finances to do so badly either. I'd have thought Raith are about where they should be currently in the grand scheme of things. When it comes to patience then that depends on whether there are signs of improvement or not. Next season a playoff spot would be an acceptable level given the budget etc. Certainly he wouldn't last another season like this one but then nor would any other manager. Edited May 1, 2022 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: Surely his ceiling at the moment is raiths ceiling though. When you look at attendances and finance 5th place is probably about right for Raith having over achieved last season. Arbroath have skewed the positions a bit with their remarkable run but that won't happen every season. Noone really expected a club with dunfermlines finances to do so badly either. I'd have thought Raith are about where they should be currently in the grand scheme of things. Yea, I see JMcG as a mid-Championship manager. He can potentially lead a team to the Premiership, however I suspect it would be a short stay with JMcG in charge, due to his limitations. He might also have a team relegated on a very rare occasion, but he certainly seems to engender motivation and performance from a lot of players, and to have the tactical ability to tread water in the Championship. His strongest point may well be his development of young players, something that Falkirk could really use. I’d love to see him move onto running the youth scheme of a larger club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 minute ago, TxRover said: Yea, I see JMcG as a mid-Championship manager. He can potentially lead a team to the Premiership, however I suspect it would be a short stay with JMcG in charge, due to his limitations. He might also have a team relegated on a very rare occasion, but he certainly seems to engender motivation and performance from a lot of players, and to have the tactical ability to tread water in the Championship. His strongest point may well be his development of young players, something that Falkirk could really use. I’d love to see him move onto running the youth scheme of a larger club. He had you 3rd last season and has had you second before. Not sure Raith fans could really expect much more from a manager given the resources available. Bit of a gamble to go for someone else who may not be able to get as much out those resources as mcglynn has surely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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