The Falkirk FC Thread

[Guest Ecosse83]

1 minute ago, Captain Chugwash said:

Baffled by my opinion that has has a high work rate and determination? None of your points contradict what I said. I honestly think that labelling him as one of the worst we’ve ever had is extremely harsh. Feel he’s one of our players who will be criticised no matter how well he plays.

I actually don’t criticise the players that much and don’t tend to shout abuse during games if they aren’t playing well but high work rate and determination doesn’t make you a good player! I’ll respect your opinion though and leave it at that! 

[FFC 1876]

Morrison should toe poke more of his efforts after yesterday's goal imo.

I don't think anyone actually claims Hetherington doesn't put any effort in, he's one of the most commited players in the team. He's just absolutely shite therefore other than clearly trying he offers absolutely nothing, constantly slows the game down when he's on the ball and constantly over commits(ironically) to tackles leading to him giving away a cheap foul or his opposing player skipping by him with ease.

[Captain Chugwash]

2 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:

I actually don’t criticise the players that much and don’t tend to shout abuse during games if they aren’t playing well but high work rate and determination doesn’t make you a good player! I’ll respect your opinion though and leave it at that! 

I don’t recall ever saying he was good. I said he’s not one of our best players but he’s by no means our worst imo, and a lot seem to think he is which I think is a wee bit unfair, that’s all.

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, Captain Chugwash said:

Hetherington does the same job as McGinn? How have you come to this conclusion? Completely different types of player. Hetherington has been box to box, driving forward a lot while McGinn sits deep and dictates play. Hetherington gets a lot of stick and might not be our best player but his work rate and determination are clear to see. He was everywhere yesterday, covered near enough every blade of grass.

Which box to which box? Last I saw there were only 2 boxes on a pitch neither of which Hetherington is very effective in or out of. 

[Springfield]

19 minutes ago, Captain Chugwash said:

I don’t recall ever saying he was good. I said he’s not one of our best players but he’s by no means our worst imo, and a lot seem to think he is which I think is a wee bit unfair, that’s all.

With all respect can you name me who’s actually worse in the first starting eleven? 

[ebobsboy]

Decent result and performance but I'll echo what Shodwell said and say one swallow doesn't make a summer. It would be absolutely terrific if Williamson and Morrison could play like that every week but the reality is they won't. I still don't get why Nesbitt and Hetherington start I actually feared for us a bit when I saw the lineup yesterday, jury still very much out on Alegria too imo. . I certainly didn't see us winning 3-1. However onto next week another 3 points is a must. 

[Bairnardo]

Alegria was OK yesterday for me but theres clearly an issue there with burying his chances. If we go away from home to better sides we might only get 1 chance. Would you back us to get crucial points in those scenarios.... Probably not.

Yesterday was good though. A determined performance from the whole team.

The thing that stands out though, purely because of the fact he has hardly played, is the difference made by Leon McCann. Some of us have said it for long enough.

First 2 goals even better than I thought at the time.

Highlights never showed horrendous challenge on Morrison before the red but I'm convinced the ref knew he should have sent the no 3 off and evened it up after with McCann. Lots of late, nasty stuff from them yesterday. Disappointing to see.

[Bigbri Bairn]

Great interview with Williamson. He knew he was under performing and was ecstatic about yesterday

[FK1Bairn]

1 hour ago, Ecosse83 said:

I watched Hetherington yesterday and your analysis of his game yesterday is quite frankly baffling. What I seen was a player who wants to look neat and tidy but does absolutely bugger all. He gets the ball and plays a wee 2 yard pass sideways. He gave away silly fouls quite a few times due to his poor positioning and failure to read the game. He is anonymous and quite frankly a waste of a jersey! 
 

I honestly think he is one of the worst midfielders we have ever had! 

Don't know if I would go as far as worst midfielder we've ever had but he didn't have a good game yesterday. Montrose was the same. 

Apart from one pass through the channel for Williamson in the first half, I saw a player continually losing the ball and late to his opponent resulting in the opponent skipping away from him or him giving a foul away. 

[Captain Chugwash]

52 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:

Which box to which box? Last I saw there were only 2 boxes on a pitch neither of which Hetherington is very effective in or out of. 

I never mentioned how effective he was at it, was just pointing out that’s the type of player he’s meant to be as someone tried to compare him to a less effective McGinn.

49 minutes ago, Springfield said:

With all respect can you name me who’s actually worse in the first starting eleven? 

In my opinion, up until yesterday I think Morrison, Nesbitt and Williamson had been underperforming far worse than Hetherington who imo was good for us pre-season and in the cup games.

[Springfield]

2 minutes ago, Captain Chugwash said:

I never mentioned how effective he was at it, was just pointing out that’s the type of player he’s meant to be as someone tried to compare him to a less effective McGinn.

In my opinion, up until yesterday I think Morrison, Nesbitt and Williamson had been underperforming far worse than Hetherington who imo was good for us pre-season and in the cup games.

We got a couple of vastly improved performances from Morrison and Williamson albeit - very poor opposition. Nesbit and Hetherington just haven’t got it. I’ve seen around half the season pre league games and still waiting to see a half decent game from the two of them. One thing I do agree on is that they’ve all been shite up to yesterday.

[ebobsboy]

Currently he's amongst half a dozen still on the books that downed tools a month or so into last season. I don't particularly care if he suddenly turns in the odd barely acceptable performance on the park, ultimately he's a wage stealing b*****d and a poor footballer who should have been emptied at the end of last season and who I don't think many will be sad to see the back of at the end of this season. 

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, Captain Chugwash said:

I never mentioned how effective he was at it, was just pointing out that’s the type of player he’s meant to be as someone tried to compare him to a less effective McGinn.

In my opinion, up until yesterday I think Morrison, Nesbitt and Williamson had been underperforming far worse than Hetherington who imo was good for us pre-season and in the cup games.

It isn’t what he is meant to be as he can’t get about the pitch to play box to box. At Alloa he played McGinn’s role. 
Compare his mobility to Yeats. That is what someone who is box to box needs to to. 

[Grangemouth Bairn]

1 hour ago, ebobsboy said:

Decent result and performance but I'll echo what Shodwell said and say one swallow doesn't make a summer.

That’s exactly what @Boo Khakiwas saying on another thread !!

[ShaggerG]

Well that was a breath of fresh air although Peterhead were absolutely dreadful so it's difficult to judge just how good we actually were. Williamson and Morrison shouldn't have started but thank f**k they did. What do any of us know about football management, eh? Morrison was unplayable at times and Williamson gave us his best performance in a Falkirk shirt to date.

Can't understand why he started with essentially three defensive mids as it meant Yeats basically playing out of position in a more advanced role. Maybe Lawal isn't fully fit yet, but him in for Hetherington is pretty obvious I would say.

Once again, I think that, when everyone is fully fit, we should use a 3-5-2. I don't think we can afford to leave McCann out as he gives us a lot down the left and Williamson can do similar on the right when he would have less defending to do.

I thought Alegria (FFS stop calling him Algeria) played quite well. Doesn't look like there's masses of quality there but he is quite physical and holds the ball up quite well. Looks like he snatches at his chances though, maybe a goal will give him a bit of confidence and he can sort that out. I'd like to see what Burrell can do, but I wouldn't be dissapointed in having Alegria off the bench as an option.

All in all a good day at the office (I think Lewis is taking the piss now TBH) but feet on the ground as we won't play opposition of that quality every week. Unfortunately.

[Captain Chugwash]

8 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:

It isn’t what he is meant to be as he can’t get about the pitch to play box to box. At Alloa he played McGinn’s role. 
Compare his mobility to Yeats. That is what someone who is box to box needs to to. 

It’s literally what he’s in McGlynn’s team to do. Whether he’s effective at it or not is another question. He was also everywhere yesterday regardless. Works his socks off.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Captain Chugwash said:

It’s literally what he’s in McGlynn’s team to do. Whether he’s effective at it or not is another question. He was also everywhere yesterday regardless. Works his socks off.

We will agree to disagree. He was probably our worst player again yesterday 

[MS RR]

I’m not sure I’m too overjoyed by yesterday. It’s good to get the win but they’re the worst team in the league so it would’ve been embarrassing to have any result other than a win. Our decision making in the opposition box is still very poor. 

[Guest Ecosse83]

1 minute ago, MS RR said:

I’m not sure I’m too overjoyed by yesterday. It’s good to get the win but they’re the worst team in the league so it would’ve been embarrassing to have any result other than a win. Our decision making in the opposition box is still very poor. 

A lot of it will be confidence, you could see that getting better as the game went on. Massive part of football is confidence! 

[Russ]

Watched the highlights and Williamson's lung-bursting run for his goal is superb - He was flying yesterday.
Definitely a contender for SPFL TOTW having topped his performance with that goal.

Aye if you’re reading Fowler you’ve really got to have one of Williamson or Morrison and Newman the Peterhead ‘keeper in the team this week.