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11 hours ago, Caractacus Potts said:

Yeh that is surprising. Thinking of it, it shows how well the commercial side does or that the season ticket sales are possibly made up of more child tickets than we would think? 

 

I wonder if that info from FSS is correct. 

Back of the fag pack numbers 

2300 ST @£200 average is about 460k

That is about 24% of £2m turnover. 

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10 hours ago, Van_damage said:

The old board have a lot to answer for. Act like a small club though etc..

You'd like to think they'll be keeping a low profile to all things connected with the club the mess they've left us in and the way they treated fans.

You’d think so, but that sort of risible decision making and an ability to alienate and marginalise people just aren’t character traits that disappear overnight.

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11 hours ago, foreverarover said:
19 hours ago, Ross B said:
I had decided not to go on Saturday due to how bad other supporters have said Meadowbank is so I forked out for Falkirk TV but theyve just tweeted saying they can't broadcast the game either. Bloody hell! 

Clubs are no longer allowed to stream games live unless you live abroad.

If it's the same issue ParsTV had FC Edinburgh don't have facilities for the away teams camera and we had to run the Pars TV equipment off a car battery.

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1 hour ago, LeodhasXD said:

I bring a 45m extension cable with me. If there's no electrical outlets within 45m of filming position in a brand new stadium they should be relegated on principle now. Madness when you consider the Falkirk Stadium was made to satisfy crazy stadium requirements. Now it's the wild west where anything goes. Feel like we've possibly swung too far the other way.

Been thinking of getting one of these. If that's indeed the case with them that'll expedite that purchase.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Portable-Station-Generator-Outdoor/dp/B09Q5DJV71?ref_=ast_sto_dp

Aye cause Recreation Park is like the San Siro

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11 minutes ago, Roboccop said:

How do you know this Peter? 

As people have worked out earlier by ‘back of the envelope calculations’

Just re-read the FSS statement and it’s very, very worrying.

They admit they need to cover the projected losses of around £400k but don’t say how?

Where is the new investment coming from? Patrons- ??, FSS- not showing a lot of progress, BfL-forced out losing 150 subscribers paying £10 per month- will they join FSS?, new investors?, the MSG?

Maybe there’s a big plan, who knows, but with a director already resigned and no Chairman, I find the statement that fans need not worry a bit over optimistic, to put it mildly.

Anyway, time will tell.

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1 hour ago, Duncan Freemason said:

You’d think so, but that sort of risible decision making and an ability to alienate and marginalise people just aren’t character traits that disappear overnight.

Was going to say at least we shouldn’t have to hear from them in a while but that’s not entirely true. 

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37 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

As people have worked out earlier by ‘back of the envelope calculations’

Just re-read the FSS statement and it’s very, very worrying.

They admit they need to cover the projected losses of around £400k but don’t say how?

Where is the new investment coming from? Patrons- ??, FSS- not showing a lot of progress, BfL-forced out losing 150 subscribers paying £10 per month- will they join FSS?, new investors?, the MSG?

Maybe there’s a big plan, who knows, but with a director already resigned and no Chairman, I find the statement that fans need not worry a bit over optimistic, to put it mildly.

Anyway, time will tell.

I just hope they have plans in place and aren't leaving it to the last minute and then going cap in hand to the fans again.  Johns budget seems to have been increased so will that add to more money needed to bridge the gap or has that been covered already.

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17 minutes ago, Van_damage said:

Was going to say at least we shouldn’t have to hear from them in a while but that’s not entirely true. 

You've reminded me that the official club podcast has gone a bit quiet. 

Hope your appearance wasn't the kiss-of-death 😉

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5 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said:

I just hope they have plans in place and aren't leaving it to the last minute and then going cap in hand to the fans again.  Johns budget seems to have been increased so will that add to more money needed to bridge the gap or has that been covered already.

Who knows?

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52 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

As people have worked out earlier by ‘back of the envelope calculations’

Just re-read the FSS statement and it’s very, very worrying.

They admit they need to cover the projected losses of around £400k but don’t say how?

Where is the new investment coming from? Patrons- ??, FSS- not showing a lot of progress, BfL-forced out losing 150 subscribers paying £10 per month- will they join FSS?, new investors?, the MSG?

Maybe there’s a big plan, who knows, but with a director already resigned and no Chairman, I find the statement that fans need not worry a bit over optimistic, to put it mildly.

Anyway, time will tell.

I’d imagine a good dent in this has already been made after progression in the league cup and a few new sponsorship deals announced since that figure was first quoted. Worst case scenario if they don’t increase revenue sufficiently I presume we’ll be back to soft loans again to tide the club over. Via the patrons group collectively or one of the larger individual shareholders. 

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13 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said:

I just hope they have plans in place and aren't leaving it to the last minute and then going cap in hand to the fans again.  Johns budget seems to have been increased so will that add to more money needed to bridge the gap or has that been covered already.

Your not factoring in progression in the league cup or the additional sponsorship that’s been brought in. These were incomes that were not budgeted for so will help close the gap, any sort of cup run or further new investment brought in will obviously also help close the gap. They new BOD have obviously taken a bit of a calculated risk to try and support the manager with a healthy playing budget, I can get on board with that provided there is a plan B. The club has been running a deficit in a majority of the previous years and the over spend is always covered one way or another. 

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42 minutes ago, Blame Me said:

You've reminded me that the official club podcast has gone a bit quiet. 

Hope your appearance wasn't the kiss-of-death 😉

Presume it would have had a lot of listens but mostly as a sleep aid! 

Less infuriating than listening to Gary Deans cohort I’d hope. Same one who publicly slated ex players now back interviewing ex players. 

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5 minutes ago, LatapyBairn. said:

I’d imagine a good dent in this has already been made after progression in the league cup and a few new sponsorship deals announced since that figure was first quoted. Worst case scenario if they don’t increase revenue sufficiently I presume we’ll be back to sort loans again to tide the club over. Via the patrons group collectively or one of the larger individual shareholders. 

Soft loans are great as long as you have willing donors. We didn’t exactly treat the old MSG people all that well.

Maybe Phil Rawlins might stump up or 40 willing fans at £10k or 400 at £1k?

We certainly need to be looking at options as we don’t want to get to Christmas and we don’t have enough to pay wages but I’m sure the Board are already doing that.

Also, not long till the AGM and the auditors will need to be assured that funds are in place for the company to be ‘a going concern’. Otherwise they will need to qualify the accounts. Not a good look!!

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All the calculations here include the VAT, so are already 20% out. Plus none of us know the mix within the ST numbers and youngsters who are in the total but go free. 
 

As for the cash shortfall this has been declared for 3 or 4 months. In announcements and the fan meeting in May. Or possibly June, cba checking. The plans to make it up were also set out. 
 

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4 minutes ago, Brockvillenomore said:

All the calculations here include the VAT, so are already 20% out. Plus none of us know the mix within the ST numbers and youngsters who are in the total but go free. 
 

As for the cash shortfall this has been declared for 3 or 4 months. In announcements and the fan meeting in May. Or possibly June, cba checking. The plans to make it up were also set out. 
 

Plans seemed to be stretching the income received from hospitality and sponsorship. Will take a lot to cover at minimum 400k though especially in the current climate. I suppose we'll find out how that's going at the AGM.

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