AJ1981 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 hours ago, Bairn in Exile said: Your opinion means f*ck all to me mate. that doesnt surprise me because facts don't seem to mean much to you either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 22 minutes ago, Jimmy1876 said: I think you're the only one that thinks getting in another quality striker that can challenge McIver means anyone wants him replaced. It absolutely means having some positive competition which is firstly good for the team and secondly good for McIver. In general you have some strange perceptions of other people's discussion. Someone saying we could do with another centre half as back up to Lang and Donaldson does not mean anyone also thinks we are in a terrible situation. It would just mean that we would get to see Keelan Adams in his preferred position. I have never said anything of the such, all I disagreeing with was one of the Falkirk daft guys saying we needed an upgrade. competition is healthy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1981 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 the exact quotes were 5 minutes ago, BPM said: I have never said anything of the such, all I disagreeing with was one of the Falkirk daft guys saying we needed an upgrade. competition is healthy Presented without comment after listening to it just now, the exact quotes were the priority was "a big strong striker" , "a level above Ross" and then later "a grade above" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 56 minutes ago, BPM said: No that is not what was said. One on Falkirk Daft said we needed an upgrade on MacIver. That is not saying we need competition but replacement which is clearly unfair on MacIver No sensible manager who has an opportunity to bring in a better player in a particular position is going to turn them down to avoid being ‘unfair’ to an existing player. Of course that doesn’t mean the new signing goes straight into the starting 11 but it is good for the squad to have extra depth and good for the current player as it keeps them on their toes. No one is advocating getting rid of Maciver, but for me it’s the one area of the squad where we don’t currently have great depth. It’s not about ‘replacing’ Maciver but giving him competition and also back-up when he is unavailable (which he will be at some stage). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 At the end of the day it's a great position to be in. Three weeks to go until the start of the season and we're talking (arguing) about 1 or 2 additions to supplement the existing squad which is looking sharp. And not needing 4 or 5 bodies and being short on quality in several areas. Huge credit to McGlynn & night and day between his appoach to recruitment and the last few managers we've had 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy1876 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, BPM said: I have never said anything of the such, all I disagreeing with was one of the Falkirk daft guys saying we needed an upgrade. competition is healthy You've literally two posts ago said that the FD guys were advocating for him being replaced which is not at all the context of that conversation and is a misrepresentation. All they have said is it would be great to have another striker and it would be great if they were an upgrade? And either way, are you really disagreeing that getting an upgrade on any player would be a good thing? I do not understand that at all. I'd be really concerned for the state of football if teams stopped looking for upgrades to be fair to players whether they have performed well or not. If Lawrence Shankland rocked up to TFS I wouldn't be saying no because MacIver did really well in league one. Edited July 14 by Jimmy1876 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy1876 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 57 minutes ago, NavyBlueArmy1876 said: At the end of the day it's a great position to be in. Three weeks to go until the start of the season and we're talking (arguing) about 1 or 2 additions to supplement the existing squad which is looking sharp. And not needing 4 or 5 bodies and being short on quality in several areas. Huge credit to McGlynn & night and day between his appoach to recruitment and the last few managers we've had Absolutely. Just to add I think MacIver will do really well and was my man of the match yesterday. Edited July 14 by Jimmy1876 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 19 minutes ago, AJ1981 said: the exact quotes were Presented without comment after listening to it just now, the exact quotes were the priority was "a big strong striker" , "a level above Ross" and then later "a grade above" John meant in addition to Ross MacIver, not instead of. You’ve not mentioned the quote where John says he likes Ross which is important for context too. Also if Ross were to get injured there isn’t a suitable replacement, which I agreed/agree with. FWIW I think Ross MacIver will get a large number of goals for us this season, like he did last season. Whether he gets 30 is up for grabs however Edited July 14 by RC55 FFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 9 minutes ago, Jimmy1876 said: You've literally two posts ago said that the FD guys were advocating for him being replaced which is not at all the context of that conversation and is a misrepresentation. All they have said is it would be great to have another striker and it would be great if they were an upgrade? And either way, are you really disagreeing that getting an upgrade on any player would be a good thing? I do not understand that at all. I'd be really concerned for the state of football if teams stopped looking for upgrades to be fair to players whether they have performed well or not. If Lawrence Shankland rocked up to TFS I wouldn't be saying no because McIver did really well in league one. No one said we needed an upgrade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy1876 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 34 minutes ago, BPM said: I have never said anything of the such, all I disagreeing with was one of the Falkirk daft guys saying we needed an upgrade. competition is healthy 3 minutes ago, BPM said: No one said we needed an upgrade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1981 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, RC55 FFC said: John meant in addition to Ross MacIver, not instead of. You’ve not mentioned the quote where John says he likes Ross which is important for context too. Also if Ross were to get injured there isn’t a suitable replacement, which I agreed/agree with. FWIW I think Ross MacIver will get a large number of goals for us this season, like he did last season. Whether he gets 30 is up for grabs however i'm not taking sides that's what presented without comment means, people can make their own decision. what nobody is talking about is the tactical change yesterday that saw us being more direct and Ross MacIver playing a vital role in winning the ball in the air. he was really important yesterday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1981 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, Jimmy1876 said: punctation perhaps? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, AJ1981 said: i'm not taking sides that's what presented without comment means, people can make their own decision. what nobody is talking about is the tactical change yesterday that saw us being more direct and Ross MacIver playing a vital role in winning the ball in the air. he was really important yesterday He absolutely was yeah. MOTM for me behind Adams, with Nesbitt, Tait and Spencer all having strong shouts too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy1876 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 38 minutes ago, AJ1981 said: i'm not taking sides that's what presented without comment means, people can make their own decision. what nobody is talking about is the tactical change yesterday that saw us being more direct and Ross MacIver playing a vital role in winning the ball in the air. he was really important yesterday Selective comments are presenting one side of things though are they not? I think many people have been talking about the vital role MacIver had yesterday and how excellent he was. Also how important he is to the front 4 with Morrison and Miller relying on MacIvers play. Edited July 14 by Jimmy1876 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1981 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, Jimmy1876 said: Selective comments are presenting one side of things though are they not? it was indeed a team effort yesterday with everybody playing their part, but the subject under discussion was how important MacIver is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy1876 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 30 minutes ago, AJ1981 said: it was indeed a team effort yesterday with everybody playing their part, but the subject under discussion was how important MacIver is. Which is why I emphasised how important MacIver is. Edited July 14 by Jimmy1876 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboccop Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Frankly I don’t think we need to expand the squad. The next three games should be easy covered by the current fit players and one would expect recovery from at least one player before the Queens game. Loans will then become an option and I’d expect one then. Money is still very tight this year and in 2 weeks time FSS has to start paying back the govt (£18k). Im sure we’ll see others in as loans but it might be better to wait and see where we need strengthening at the start of the league. Given yesterday’s performance, players regaining fitness wouldn’t go straight back into the team anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyoldman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 If it were possible I’d like an upgrade on every player we have 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 If be amazed if we could afford or find an upgrade on MacIver who would want to play in the championship. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1981 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 9 minutes ago, Roboccop said: Frankly I don’t think we need to expand the squad. The next three games should be easy covered by the current fit players and one would expect recovery from at least one player before the Queens game. Loans will then become an option and I’d expect one then. Money is still very tight this year and in 2 weeks time FSS has to start paying back the govt (£18k). Im sure we’ll see others in as loans but it might be better to wait and see where we need strengthening at the start of the league. Given yesterday’s performance, players regaining fitness wouldn’t go straight back into the team anyway. good points but i would like a little more depth up front and at CH unless the manager feels the youngsters can step up if needed, maybe he does, but who knows. i trust his judgement, we were all worried about yesterday and look at the performance and result. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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