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Although it could be argued that we are well on our way to replicating them, but our downward glide path is just a lot shallower. Can't remember ever going off a manager in the way that I have gone off Holt. Was fully prepared to give him a chance this season, but the guy simply isn't at the races. He hasn't made our team better in any respect whatsoever.........in fact, he's made it much much worse.

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Although it could be argued that we are well on our way to replicating them, but our downward glide path is just a lot shallower. Can't remember ever going off a manager in the way that I have gone off Holt. Was fully prepared to give him a chance this season, but the guy simply isn't at the races. He hasn't made our team better in any respect whatsoever.........in fact, he's made it much much worse.

Steven Pressley, anyone?

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It seems like frustrations with the club have come to a head tonight, but the product on the pitch is only part of the problem, the major reason is that fans aren't enjoying going to see Falkirk any more. Our stadium has the same atmosphere as an out of town shopping centre car park. It's not just our club that needs to change, it's Scottish football.

If we made the South Stand a standing area, sold beer at games, let under 18s in for free, charged fans £15 to get in (max) we would make football an enjoyable experience. The club is nothing without the fans, and numbers are going to continue to decline unless we allow fans to create an atmosphere and charge them reasonable prices.

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It seems like frustrations with the club have come to a head tonight, but the product on the pitch is only part of the problem, the major reason is that fans aren't enjoying going to see Falkirk any more. Our stadium has the same atmosphere as an out of town shopping centre car park. It's not just our club that needs to change, it's Scottish football.

If we made the South Stand a standing area, sold beer at games, let under 18s in for free, charged fans £15 to get in (max) we would make football an enjoyable experience. The club is nothing without the fans, and numbers are going to continue to decline unless we allow fans to create an atmosphere and charge them reasonable prices.

If we made the South Stand standing, let under 18s in for free and charged £15 to get in we'd be bankrupt by Xmas.

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Here's what I posted after Holts first game in charge, the Semi v Hibs.

I don't know what Holt put in their tea at half time, but it must have been akin to mogadon. 2 or 3 of them failed to appear for the second 45.

 

First half, whilst we didn't play brilliantly, we did the simple things well, closed Hibs down & forced them into mistakes. Capatalising on these &, for the first time I can ever remember, we seemed to be the side getting a 3 goal start on someone. Hibs were devoid of ideas ,struggling to get a foothold in the game & whilst Taylor's chance, to sink the game, will haunt him for a while, I thought we saw out the half quite comfortably & Fenlon looked 45 mins from the sack.

 

Half time seemed the worst thing to happen to us.

 

2nd 45 we stood off Hibs, gave them time on the ball, constantly turned into trouble, resulting in giving posession away, stopped supporting Taylor & left him isolated. Wasn't surprised Conner & Jay getting substituted, but I thought taking Alston off, instead of Sibb's, was the turning point. He may not be as talented skill wise, but is direct, keeps thing simple, links well with his striker & is always liable to score.

 

McGovern showed his worth with the penalty save & I thought we could dig deep & see it out. But not closing down, backing off & inviting the shot proved to be our down fall.

 

We managed to make corrections for extra time, giving as good as we were getting & we were unlucky with the one that came back off the post. However, probably down to tiredness more than anything, we were caught backing off again & allowing Hibs to play, not forcing them.

From that HT team talk, it pretty much sums up every display under Holt I've witnessed.
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It seems like frustrations with the club have come to a head tonight, but the product on the pitch is only part of the problem, the major reason is that fans aren't enjoying going to see Falkirk any more. Our stadium has the same atmosphere as an out of town shopping centre car park. It's not just our club that needs to change, it's Scottish football.

If we made the South Stand a standing area, sold beer at games, let under 18s in for free, charged fans £15 to get in (max) we would make football an enjoyable experience. The club is nothing without the fans, and numbers are going to continue to decline unless we allow fans to create an atmosphere and charge them reasonable prices.

The last bit is most certainly right. It has absolutely re energised German football. It's probably a very Scottish thing to completely ignore or dismiss the things that your customers actually want. Witness reconstruction, where ineptness of paid officials like Doncaster is almost viewed as something that constantly has to be navigated around as if it were an act of nature rather than someone who was actually paid to do a job with money that comes from those he chooses to ignore. It really is something that, simply wouldn't be tolerated in other countries, but in Scotland, we accept it as just being the way it is.

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The last bit is most certainly right. It has absolutely re energised German football. It's probably a very Scottish thing to completely ignore or dismiss the things that your customers actually want. Witness reconstruction, where ineptness of paid officials like Doncaster is almost viewed as something that constantly has to be navigated around as if it were an act of nature rather than someone who was actually paid to do a job with money that comes from those he chooses to ignore. It really is something that, simply wouldn't be tolerated in other countries, but in Scotland, we accept it as just being the way it is.

The extent of disillusionment amongst fans with the governing bodies is unsurpassed. The people who govern the game and run the clubs are (generally) completely disconnected from the average fan. The recent moves towards fan ownership at Hearts and Dunfermline can only be welcomed IMO.

With regards to the atmosphere, we have become used to paying silly prices for a matchday experience that is extremely poor. Borussia Dortmund's standing areas allow them to charge £12 to watch world class football. We're asking people to pay £18 to sit quietly in a half empty stadium watching second tier Scottish football, it is beyond a joke.

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If it's 30% that is absolutely disgraceful. I'd be wanting 50% ish. We are a football club, the sooner the board get that through their skulls the better.

I am only making a guesstimate.

Top line will be circa £1.6m first team cost around 500k. If we lose money the rest of our overhead is £1.1m+. However our lack of transparency makes it almost impossible to get to the bottom of the issues.

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The extent of disillusionment amongst fans with the governing bodies is unsurpassed. The people who govern the game and run the clubs are (generally) completely disconnected from the average fan. The recent moves towards fan ownership at Hearts and Dunfermline can only be welcomed IMO.

 

With regards to the atmosphere, we have become used to paying silly prices for a matchday experience that is extremely poor. Borussia Dortmund's standing areas allow them to charge £12 to watch world class football. We're asking people to pay £18 to sit quietly in a half empty stadium watching second tier Scottish football, it is beyond a joke.

Remember the governing bodies only reflect the views of their members. Doncaster was only doing the bidding of his masters.

Falkirk fans dont have to look beyond their own Rangers-apologist hypocritical cowardly boardroom for targets in this regard.

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