HopeStreetWalker Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Totally endorse your remarks. Risk of a fit young footballer dying of Covid is virtually zero Done the risk assessment ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Totally endorse your remarks. Risk of a fit young footballer dying of Covid is virtually zero What about his parents? Or grandparents? Or the relatives of friends? f**k them, you want to watch football? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: Done the risk assessment ? Just look at the statistics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: What about his parents? Or grandparents? Or the relatives of friends? f**k them, you want to watch football? I would presume it would surely be the same as now. Ie the players wouldnt be able to visit them etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Bairn in Exile said: Forfar trying to get back in our good books - f*ck 'em. How League One voted With Partick Thistle dropping down, there were four yes votes in the third tier. Two clubs also abstained in the shape of Airdrie and Clyde. Partick Thistle – Yes Falkirk – Yes Airdrie – abstained Montrose – No East Fife – Yes Dumbarton – No Clyde – Abstained Peterhead – No Forfar – Yes Cove – No Yes, I'm sure the chief consideration for Forfar in deciding how to vote was how Falkirk and their fans would respond to it. Some of you have hit FollowFollow levels of lunacy. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: What about his parents? Or grandparents? Or the relatives of friends? f**k them, you want to watch football? Regarding parents, in that age group, the risk is minimal. Grandparents - yes there is a risk but, in my opinion, not big enough to stop professional sport. Look at the ONS statistics, and you will see that, by and large, this is a disease that kills the old and informed and those with underlying diseases. It is not a disease of the young and middle aged. Since the outbreak there have been 10000 EXTRA deaths of a non Covid nature due to lack of NHS treatment being available. Check the stats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Regarding parents, in that age group, the risk is minimal. Grandparents - yes there is a risk but, in my opinion, not big enough to stop professional sport. Look at the ONS statistics, and you will see that, by and large, this is a disease that kills the old and informed and those with underlying diseases. It is not a disease of the young and middle aged. Since the outbreak there have been 10000 EXTRA deaths of a non Covid nature due to lack of NHS treatment being available. Check the stats. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Regarding parents, in that age group, the risk is minimal. Grandparents - yes there is a risk but, in my opinion, not big enough to stop professional sport. Look at the ONS statistics, and you will see that, by and large, this is a disease that kills the old and informed and those with underlying diseases. It is not a disease of the young and middle aged. Since the outbreak there have been 10000 EXTRA deaths of a non Covid nature due to lack of NHS treatment being available. Check the stats. What about the ill-informed? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Hank von Hell said: Which peoples lives? What really is the risk of death to a fit and healthy athlete living in isolation and regularly tested - can't be very high. Compare that to health workers who have to head to work every day to feed their families & are exposed to infected people with little protection. Danny Rose has probably earned enough money to never work again, he has no idea much like the rest of them living in the EPL bubble. Hope that bubble bursts real soon. In the meantime get out and play you pampered entitled EPL p***k....or don't as you won't be missed. Thank God for the Germans, I will be watching their league weekend, I'm sure it will give their public a lift as it will sure give me one. The huge variable in this matter is the possible long-term damage that COVID-19 May cause to the body. More and more body systems are being shown to be impacted by this virus, and long-term damage to respiratory, endocrine, kidney, liver and heart systems cannot be ruled out. This disease is inflammatory in nature, much like Diabetes, and that causes no end to long-term health threats. As for clubs strengths, I sincerely doubt any club outside the Premiership has anything near the necessary resources to withstand an extended shutdown, and even most those clubs will be, at best, severely tested. I suspect the need for revenue sharing to strengthen the game is underestimated. 12 teams consuming 80%+ of revenues for the SPFL, and no gate sharing, has doomed fitba. Even a small (10-20%) share of gate revenue to the visiting team would significantly improve the financials for many smaller clubs, but there are other schemes that could reward big clubs. Imagine that net gate revenue above the home club average is split 60/40 with the visiting club, for instance. That effectively rewards bigger teams traveling support. The open question would be what would it take for the top level clubs to agree to sharing any gate revenues? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Just look at the statistics. That is the one thing you don't do when carrying out a risk assessment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 52 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: What about the ill-informed? Well, that’s their tough luck. Its up to everyone to come to their own conclusion. My wife and I have looked at the stats and we do not adhere to the regulations. Enough said, I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 minute ago, HopeStreetWalker said: That is the one thing you don't do when carrying out a risk assessment. Why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Well, that’s their tough luck. Its up to everyone to come to their own conclusion. My wife and I have looked at the stats and we do not adhere to the regulations. Good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Regarding parents, in that age group, the risk is minimal. Grandparents - yes there is a risk but, in my opinion, not big enough to stop professional sport. Look at the ONS statistics, and you will see that, by and large, this is a disease that kills the old and informed and those with underlying diseases. It is not a disease of the young and middle aged. Since the outbreak there have been 10000 EXTRA deaths of a non Covid nature due to lack of NHS treatment being available. Check the stats. God knows that the stats are important, not the lives? Please, Sir, define the following: ”minimal risk”, “risk, but not enough to stop professional sport”, “by and large” I ask simply because you wish to impose your values on a country and a sport, but give none of the stats you ask us to check. Is minimal risk one in ten thousand? How many grandparents do we have to kill to restart professional sports? Does by and large mean that your child has only a one in a hundred thousand chance of death, and are you willing to expose them to that chance when you can wait and be safer? Remember, we know very little about the long-term prognosis for this disease. We are now seeing a rapid increase in children severely impacted by the ongoing effects of the virus, so any judgement we make now is only valid for currently known factors, and ignore future risks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirk09Bairn Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 We really are a strange bunch. What a difference a few months makes. From organising boycotts of home games to starve the MSG of money, to going full circle and only attending home games. The MSG must be fucking pissing themselves laughing at the sheer stupidity of us. Literally a few months ago we were absolutely furious at the board, and rightly fucking so, they’re a shower of absolute b*****ds, and now we’re falling over ourselves to boast about how much money we’re going to give them. I despair. On the plus side, we can take the moral high ground and walk about with our heads held high as one of the only clubs who voted with the future of the game in mind, while organising boycotts to starve other clubs of money, potentially putting them out of business. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Falkirk09Bairn said: We really are a strange bunch. What a difference a few months makes. From organising boycotts of home games to starve the MSG of money, to going full circle and only attending home games. The MSG must be fucking pissing themselves laughing at the sheer stupidity of us. Literally a few months ago we were absolutely furious at the board, and rightly fucking so, they’re a shower of absolute b*****ds, and now we’re falling over ourselves to boast about how much money we’re going to give them. I despair. On the plus side, we can take the moral high ground and walk about with our heads held high as one of the only clubs who voted with the future of the game in mind, while organising boycotts to starve other clubs of money, potentially putting them out of business. Yes let's let the club die because we don't like the board. Idiot! Edited May 13, 2020 by Ecosse83 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirk09Bairn Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I didn’t say that pal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Falkirk09Bairn said: I didn’t say that pal. Really? What the hell were you getting at then Edited May 13, 2020 by Ecosse83 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, Falkirk09Bairn said: We really are a strange bunch. What a difference a few months makes. From organising boycotts of home games to starve the MSG of money, to going full circle and only attending home games. The MSG must be fucking pissing themselves laughing at the sheer stupidity of us. Literally a few months ago we were absolutely furious at the board, and rightly fucking so, they’re a shower of absolute b*****ds, and now we’re falling over ourselves to boast about how much money we’re going to give them. I despair. On the plus side, we can take the moral high ground and walk about with our heads held high as one of the only clubs who voted with the future of the game in mind, while organising boycotts to starve other clubs of money, potentially putting them out of business. I doubt fans of any other club are going to give a flying feck if we went down the tubes in the current climate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirk09Bairn Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 @Shadwell Dog Maybe so mate but we seem to be the only ones attempting to take the moral high ground while making a concerted effort to starve other clubs of money. If we’re making the claim we voted for the greater good why on earth are we organising boycotts? I stand by my MSG comments. They must be pishing themselves laughing at us. They’ve gotten away with it big style. Completely mugged off by those fucking clowns. All that nonsense with Campbell, they knew if enough time passed we’d turn heel. Played us all like a fiddle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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