roman_bairn Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Probably a question that should have been put to that dim wit Joe Fitzpatrick several weeks ago. If it had been the private sector, he would be facing a bit of jail time too.The decision on how the money was split amongst the clubs was not made by the SG.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 The decision on how the money was split amongst the clubs was not made by the SG....They had no input? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alonso Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Given the latest total disregard from Premiership players of clubs lucky enough to be allowed to play, then no doubt the lower leagues will have to carry the can and the chances of us starting again are probably zilch unless we become a voice and a thorn in the side of the powers that be. We should all start bombarding our local MSP's for a full government enquiry: 1) Distribution of taxpayers money, 500k to Alloa and Arbroath isnt a helping hand its a windfall(this is more than these clubs would generate in a full non covid season) 2) SFA member just so happens to be chairman of Alloa 3) Leagues 1 and 2 get 150k and 100k and their leagues get stopped, more of this money should be going to these clubs if not ALL of it, wasnt that the point of the money, not for clubs like Dundee to suddenly splash out bigger wages to the likes of Cummings. 4) As somebody else pointed out all these clubs are willing to test, isnt that a good thing to be testing part time workers going to other jobs who otherwise wouldnt be testing, this will help stop the spread of the virus. 5) All season ticket holders should be demanding full refunds from the SFA/SPFL as they are the ones who have stopped us playing, maybe the prospect they might have to foot the bill might prompt them to let us start playing as the prospect of losing money from their own coffers is the only thing they have any interest in. Just a few points and im sure that list could easily be expanded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: They had no input? I understand FFC are demanding answers from both the SG and the football authorities as to the thinking behind the division of the funds. Dont imagine they’ll get far but the questions are along the lines of those mooted by Alonso. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 They had no input? So........that would make Joe Fitzpatrick even dumber than most people thought......”There you go lads, take this £7,500,000 of tax payer’s cash (or in truth, a bit of the 40 year gilts that 24 year olds will be paying back from next year until the day they retire), and splash it around as you see fit. The only caveat is that Dundee FC can’t have all of it. I am sure self interest won’t play any part in your decision making.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said: So........that would make Joe Fitzpatrick even dumber than most people thought......”There you go lads, take this £7,500,000 of tax payer’s cash (or in truth, a bit of the 40 year gilts that 24 year olds will be paying back from next year until the day they retire), and splash it around as you see fit. The only caveat is that Dundee FC can’t have all of it. I am sure self interest won’t play any part in your decision making.” As I said, I understand the split was made by the SPFL/SFA.... Edited February 15, 2021 by roman_bairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: As I said, I understand the split was made by the SPFL/SFA.... Just a question, not an accusation - would Mulraney be on that SFA board who made that decision? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just a question, not an accusation - would Mulraney be on that SFA board who made that decision? Probably... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Exactly that....and I would not be standing back admiring Mulraney for his shrewdness. If he had any say in the matter beyond declaring his conflict of interest, then again, you are looking at ingrained corruption that has now become “business as usual” within Scottish football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Indeed. Again, I am not accusing him of anything. But if he had any hand in the decision making r.e how the money was divvied up, an investigation needs to happen. Conflict of interest X1000. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Indeed. Again, I am not accusing him of anything. But if he had any hand in the decision making r.e how the money was divvied up, an investigation needs to happen. Conflict of interest X1000.I think you will find that EVERYTHING that is done in Scottish Football is done with self interest in mind. No new news here.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 9 hours ago, TheScarf said: It's not a requirement though. Why waste money using something they don't need? Depends whether your okay with a backlog of fixtures i suppose. If the Scottish cup does get back up and running then fixture congestion could be an issue with teams like Dundee and yourselves struggling to get games on recently. It doesn't affect the fans obviously.this season but I would've thought in a normal season you would want as many games to take place on a Saturday as possible for attendances/ hospitality money reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 The SG must have had some influence otherwise we would be getting the loans whilst the top flight clubs got grants. No way the spfl decided that the top flight should only be allowed loans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alonso Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 So folks back to my original point, is it worth us all bombarding our local MSP , Angus Mcdonald, for a government enquiry? There's elections coming up, surely he should want to fight the corner of his local football team if he gets enough complaints? Can we get other teams on board? Also bombard SFA with threats for them to refund all season ticket monies for matches they chose to stop, if they blame the government then all the more to argue the point on where the government funding should have went? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 The SG must have had some influence otherwise we would be getting the loans whilst the top flight clubs got grants. No way the spfl decided that the top flight should only be allowed loans.Who suggested otherwise? We are talking about the split of cash across the lower divisions.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 So folks back to my original point, is it worth us all bombarding our local MSP , Angus Mcdonald, for a government enquiry? There's elections coming up, surely he should want to fight the corner of his local football team if he gets enough complaints? Can we get other teams on board? Also bombard SFA with threats for them to refund all season ticket monies for matches they chose to stop, if they blame the government then all the more to argue the point on where the government funding should have went? Think you should be pointing your ire at Celtic tbh...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 13 hours ago, roman_bairn said: Who suggested otherwise? We are talking about the split of cash across the lower divisions.. Well if the sg can do that there was surely nothing to stop them being involved in the distribution of monies to the other 3 leagues is my point. They obviously chose not to and we've ended up with a ridiculous split. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said: Well if the sg can do that there was surely nothing to stop them being involved in the distribution of monies Apart from FIFA rules, you're right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) If FIFA rules don't allow it then how did the sg manage to make sure that the top flight only got loans of up to 2 million pounds .Surely it's not different FIFA rules on government intervention for the top flight than the levels under that ? Edited February 16, 2021 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: If FIFA rules don't allow it then how did the sg manage to make sure that the top flight only got loans of up to 2 million pounds .Surely it's not different FIFA rules on government intervention for the top flight than the levels under that ? Emergency funding was made available and divided up by football authorities. Even if they were allowed I doubt Government would have the time or inclination to decide who got what. Your problem is with football, not the Government. I expect they asked for it to be all in grants and were told no, but they could access loans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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