Reynard Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 If the tv deal is jeopardized, renegotiate or try and find another broadcaster. Clubs cut their cloth accordingly. Rangers are just another member club and should be treated as such. If rangers were permitted to walk back into the SPL then, for me, the game is up. They may be bigger but they are no "better" or more important than any other club in Scotland. No Rangers = no TV deal. Personally, I'd be delighted to have no TV deal and also no Rangers. Both our clubs would survive quite happily. We might end up playing hunners of young kids for a while and we might end up with rubbishy washed up crocked pros like you get in the lower leagues but so what? I've watched plenty of rubbish St.Mirren teams in the first division and it never put me off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placidcasual Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 has there been any statement from HMRC with regards to the £49 million, have heard all the stuff that they won't back down but anything official or dose anyone on the forum work for / or know the workings of HMRC will they finish the b*****ds off! Yes, there has been. In light of the ridiculous number of unnecessary threads started on pieandbovril.com, we've decided that we can no longer be fucked harrassing Rangers Football Club and have agreed that the debt will be waived with immediate effect. See what you've all done? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenston saint Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Football is a shit sport anyway, if it wasnt for my St.Mirren habit I wouldnt watch it anymore. That's quite touching,I'm on the verge of tears 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yes, there has been. See what you've all done? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 As much as I am laughing at Rangers, I have to say that HMRC are a fucking shambles. A costly shambles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 That's quite touching,I'm on the verge of tears Tam manage to avoid his round again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkay Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 has there been any statement from HMRC with regards to the £49 million, have heard all the stuff that they won't back down but anything official or dose anyone on the forum work for / or know the workings of HMRC will they finish the b*****ds off! Stick to shagging sheep 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I didn't see Dundee or Livingston get the backing from the Scottish First Minister the way Rangers got from Salmond on the news tonight. He basically said that pressure is being put on HMRC to restrain their demands as it is vital that Rangers survive !!! The Establishment will win the day again !!! Would have thought the First Minister encouraging HMRC to let a private business off the hook would be an open goal for the opposition parties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lau03143 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 They won't get their money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I see Shona Robison has noww been joined by His Salmondness in trying to get HMRC to go easy on Rangers. Did anyone who e-mailed Ms Robison get any reply? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owsley Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Well said Reynard. The vast bulk of what we watch IS shit, be it SPL shit or Third Division shit. But it should be honest shit. I think mass football disobedience is called for if the SPL clubs allow them back in - boycotts, badgering politicians, campaigns, marching on Hampden with burning pitchforks, you name it. Sod Sky and ESPN. If we go back to a BBC deal paying peanuts but getting Sportscene on a saturday night, well, I can think of worst things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lau03143 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Ofcourse they would. They are all screwed without either of the old firm as pretty much all TV money and substantial ticket monies disappear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 As much as I am laughing at Rangers, I have to say that HMRC are a fucking shambles. A costly shambles. Agree with this but I think there is more to it than that. 1 They are a huge bureaucracy with too few internal (external) controls. 2 Their senior personell have too muck autonomy, an example being their cosy relationships with Vodafone. 3 The rules (legislation) actually favours people/companies trying to avoid their responsibilities. An example of this in the Rangers fiasco is Whyte being able to appoint administrators that include people with whom he has a close, personal relationship. 4 The legislation that is in place to "protect" is against unscrupulous individuals, eg individuals being banned as company directors, is not used nearly enough. Similarly there are very few directors who have been prosecuted for unlawful trading though it is a fairly common practice, particularly for companies that subsequently go into administration/liquidation. I could go on but I won't as it pisses me off too much (plus I am doing this on my phone whilst trying to watch the Arsenal game). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditots Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) As much as I am laughing at Rangers, I have to say that HMRC are a fucking shambles. A costly shambles. I agree. Although they have went up in my estimations dramatically in the last few days. Lets hope they keep up the good work. Edited February 15, 2012 by ditots 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Would have thought the First Minister encouraging HMRC to let a private business off the hook would be an open goal for the opposition parties. Depends on your stance. I don't think AS was quite as daft in his comments as made out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 ticketus are a front for octopus investments who invest money for hedge funds worth hundreds of millions. the idea that they weren't fully aware that (i) whyte is dodgy (ii) rangers were facing a huge tax bill and (iii) admin was extremely likely is not very realistic. there is a reason why these people are filthy rich and it's not because they throw millions at con men. it's much more likely that whyte, the administration company and ticketus have planned all this from day one. Definitely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Depends on your stance. I don't think AS was quite as daft in his comments as made out. In what sense? He was appeasing bigots - they have votes too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I know corporate shenanigans are not a new thing and all this is mostly done under civil law but I wish someone would actually call it for what it is. Theft from the public purse ie. you and me. How much stuff for hospitals, schools etc. would 75M have bought? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 If Whyte gets away with this audacious scam. The very next day I am going to acquire a troubled company for £1. I will then keep a hold of NIC and PAYE. Put said company into administration and sail off into the sunset 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tee Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The £8 million the fucking clowns blew trying to claim back £200,000 from Harry Redknapp was an absolute disgrace! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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