7-2 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Why the Big Hoose? I thought that was weegie for prison. Can't see them doing irony. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I don't know if you listened to Sportsound last night, but if you did, you would have heard Chico and Roddy Forsyth blaming the Business Editors, saying that it wasn't the job of football journos to look into the business side. What Roddy Forsyth and Jim Spence said pretty much boiled down to whataboutery but I thought they made some good points - although Chick Young was just his usual bitter we self. I said to my mate months before Rangers went into administration that the business reporters should be looking into it (as well as the sports journalist, not instead of) as they were the ones with the expertise and knowledge to find out what was going on, although it's possible they've all been made redundant. Forsyth also said last night that in every sphere - politics, business, sport etc - there will be the important folk who can surrounding themselves with pet journalists. Spence's point that no one, particularly fans, was wondering where the money was coming from when there was success was also fair enough. As I said, all whataboutery but some valid points. The funniest bit of the whole saga from a reporting point of view was when no one even knew the BBC was investigating Whyte and Jim "Succulent Lamb" Traynor was moaning on Sportsound that the BBC hadn't launched an investigation. I assume he was then moaning at Record staff for not doing the same? It's funny seeing people, Celtic fans in particular, championing Alex Thomson as if he's some top notch journalist who is blowing the whole story right open. Haven't seen him report anything that wasn't mentioned anywhere else or we didn't already know. If someone has links to that I'd appreciate it. His talk about some sort of Rangers media cartel is also funny because if it was Celtic this was happening to we'd all be able to make the exact same accusations about the media not doing their jobs and not asking the hard questions. As an aside, I've spent the last few weeks covering a tax trial in court. Yesterday I just about ended myself when one of the lawyers referred to where the accused stayed as "the big house" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I think you are all being a bit harsh on the RM and the integrity of their fans. They did not get enough credit in my opinion for all the thousands that turned up at Dunfermline to repay a debt to an 'honourable' club. Shame on you all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Wouldn't it be funny/ironic if a CVA was agreed..................... And HMRC isisted on 100p in the pound? Let's say 135 million plus interest spread out over 20 years....say 10 million a year. That would go some way towards getting them back for at least the last 20 years of cheating. Naw, liquidate 'em. :lol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadSaint Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Maybe they missed the biggest opportunity last summer when all this was safely under the carpet.....They should have "bought" in a stupid value player like Hulk (£85million buy out clause) and then flogged him on to Chelsea, Man City etc , banked the cash and then not paid Porto the original fee.....seems to have worked with Jelavic on a small scale........just up the stakes.....of course they could have been really greedy and bought and sold Ronaldo or Messi so they would have milions left over for building next season's title winning team but that would be ridiculous. Edited April 6, 2012 by BigBadSaint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Re:boycotts Perhaps SPL fans can make a stand and refuse to go to Ibronx. Ra peepul bitch and moan about every other team and denizen of planet earth being against them. Maybe its time to show them that they are right 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenMonster Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Why the Big Hoose? I thought that was weegie for prison. Can't see them doing irony. Cause of this guy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Re:boycotts Perhaps SPL fans can make a stand and refuse to go to Ibronx. Ra peepul bitch and moan about every other team and denizen of planet earth being against them. Maybe its time to show them that they are right When the dust settles and Rangers, in whatever form they take next season, struggle due to lack of funds and having sold off the cream of their so called stars at a fraction of their "value" the peepel will be boycotting every ground in Scotland, especially Ibrox or wherever they are playing their home matches. They are at best fair weather supporters and will not turn up when their team are being humiliated on the field. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 100% dont go to DU teach they b*****ds a lesson, it will be hard for people not to go that follow us everywere but the point is to take as much cash away from them as possible, and i would buy 2 of there players at cut price then they dont get the true value if they are 21, like McKay-smith / Russell. McKay-Smith. What a player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Am I the only person looking at this and thinking that nothing will happen to Rangers, they will get their knuckles rapped by the HMRC, the SPL will bend over to take them back in should they form a newco, the television companies will insist on the OF continuing in it's current form and those in positions of power are as likely to be fans than not so will make every effort to ensure there is no lasting negatives from what is, pretty much, basic cheating on a grand scale. If that happens, then as someone has already said, there is no point in even following a team in Scotland as the odds will continually be rigged against all but the big two teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 It's funny seeing people, Celtic fans in particular, championing Alex Thomson as if he's some top notch journalist who is blowing the whole story right open. Haven't seen him report anything that wasn't mentioned anywhere else or we didn't already know. If someone has links to that I'd appreciate it. His talk about some sort of Rangers media cartel is also funny because if it was Celtic this was happening to we'd all be able to make the exact same accusations about the media not doing their jobs and not asking the hard questions. I don't think anyone is actually saying that, more that they're quite chuffed that someone in the MSM has finally come out with the stuff the PR rehashers won't. btw, the media fair went for Celtic's throat on any number of occasions back in 1994. So much so that there's still a general ignorance of the reasons as to why the Bank of Scotland were finally forced to action (or begin to) a winding up order on Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Am I the only person looking at this and thinking that nothing will happen to Rangers, they will get their knuckles rapped by the HMRC, the SPL will bend over to take them back in should they form a newco, the television companies will insist on the OF continuing in it's current form and those in positions of power are as likely to be fans than not so will make every effort to ensure there is no lasting negatives from what is, pretty much, basic cheating on a grand scale. If that happens, then as someone has already said, there is no point in even following a team in Scotland as the odds will continually be rigged against all but the big two teams. There is a cynical side to me that thinks that but in all honesty I don't think that will happen. It's been too high profile and the debts that have been reported have been too big for them to get a simple rap on the knuckles. I genuinely think they are fucked and liquidation is very much on the cards 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 McKay-Smith. What a player. As Frankie Howard used to say “It’s cruel to mock the afflicted”. Mind you it is fun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Last game of 79/80 season there were 1800 at Der Ibronx to witness Thistle pump them 1-0. Also half the crowd were Thistle fans. See they don't do walking away, but they are partial to staying at home when things don't go their way 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Just in case there's any confusion, it wouldn't have been HMRC employees doing the job. It would have been a different firm of insolvency practitioners. It really would be very stupid of Duff & Phelps to wilfully do a shoddy or dodgy job and I really don't think they're that stupid. It could have a seriously bad effect on their business. Indeed that is correct but i'm not saying Duff and Phelps do a shoddy or dodgy job but the HMRC insolvency practitioners would have digged a lot deeper which might have caused Murray/Whyte a few problems. Edited April 6, 2012 by betting competition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Am I the only person looking at this and thinking that nothing will happen to Rangers, they will get their knuckles rapped by the HMRC, the SPL will bend over to take them back in should they form a newco, the television companies will insist on the OF continuing in it's current form and those in positions of power are as likely to be fans than not so will make every effort to ensure there is no lasting negatives from what is, pretty much, basic cheating on a grand scale. If that happens, then as someone has already said, there is no point in even following a team in Scotland as the odds will continually be rigged against all but the big two teams. I posted on here last night regarding the additional funding that has subsidised Renegers over the last 15 years (around £300m) and it makes you wonder why anyone, including Sky, would demand that they have a place in the SPL. Can you imagine the SPL if say Hearts, Aberdeen, Hibs, St Mirren, et al were being subsidised by £20m each per season? Or even just one of them. Why not just remove Renegers from the picture and just give Aberdeen £20m a season and see how things pan out, I mean, if we're casting sporting integrity aside, why not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Last game of 79/80 season there were 1800 at Der Ibronx to witness Thistle pump them 1-0. Also half the crowd were Thistle fans. See they don't do walking away, but they are partial to staying at home when things don't go their way Yeah but you try adding a catchy lyric to that line. It isn't easy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 McKay-Smith. What a player. even had he got his name right, what self respecting football player that isnt a free agent is gonna sign for rangers in the near future 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) The big problem HMRC has i suppose, if they give in to 10p in the pound for this it is opening the door for EPL clubs to do the same in the future. Its a tough one for them i think they have to be careful what they do although Rangers administration seem to be confident that they are willing to do a deal. Edited April 6, 2012 by betting competition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Last game of 79/80 season there were 1800 at Der Ibronx to witness Thistle pump them 1-0. Also half the crowd were Thistle fans. See they don't do walking away, but they are partial to staying at home when things don't go their way Last league game of the 79/80 season we were away to St Mirren. Partick's last game was at home to Aberdeen. In our second-last game (Partick's third-last game) we lost 4-3 at Firhill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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