Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

[welshbairn]

More gems from the font of Rangers wisdom that just keeps delivering..

They're saying nasty things about us!

I have contacted the daily record and scotsman who have not responded to me, the sun who have looked at them and decided there is no story for them and the press and journal who have looked at them and have not responded when i have asked if they are going to run with the story.

[WeeHectorPar]

I'm pretty sure TUPE will protect ALL terms & conditions transferring to any "New" owner.

Except you can't transfer employees to a newco. They will have to negotiate new contracts with employees of the oldco.

[HibeeJibee]

Hampden would have to re-register the players with the new team.

It's not really a new club in the eyes of the football authorities, though, if it transfers its SPL share and SFA membership across. That's the whole point of transferring them... it's "the same club", so that is why it keeps playing in SPL, continues full SFA membership, etc.

If it "keeps" the sanction... can't register new players over 18... why wouldn't it "keep" the right to renew existing registrations?

Miller's plans are confusing enough for uncertainty, I'd admit, but the above doesn't make much sense.

Except you can't transfer employees to a newco. They will have to negotiate new contracts with employees of the oldco.

Which could be irrelevant surely? SFA sanction doesn't prevent them negotiating new contracts with players over 18 already with them. And if the Newco isn't the same club for registrations, why would it be for sanctions?

Edited April 29, 2012 by HibeeJibee

[MarreZ]

Care to expand on this? I thought it was 'imminent' for weeks? Just how long can this go on for!

Imminently.

[WeeHectorPar]

More gems from the font of Rangers wisdom that just keeps delivering..

They're saying nasty things about us!

A guy with a real future in journalism.

[Chuckinho]

and they won't necessarily go over for a halfbaked promise of wages or be paid in bigotry.

[GordieBoy80]

What a bunch of hypocrites and bigots.

Our clubs (and scottish football) need the old firm. Dunfermline never paid their players and the taxman on time in February, should they be shutdown? Forgotten already the rangers supporters bailed you out?

Hearts have been doing it for the past couple of seasons, Celtic (along with every club in Europe) evaded paying tax when they were the first British club to win the European cup. Strip them of their tainted history?

Even today, you can visit football grounds up and down the country and you will still find the cash only turnstiles, these are used to pay cash in hand expenses to players and officials to avoid paying tax.

If we're getting on our high horses and climbing the moral high ground then we have to start all over again because we're all guilty....!

Barcelona are hundreds of millions in debt, which includes vast amounts of unpaid tax, are we going to call for their demise or is it just the Scottish bigotry disease that is calling for the Rangers scalp?

The old firm generate approx £5.5million in ticket sales for the rest of us, we hike up prices when they visit and add to that the amount our towns take when they visit, pubs, hotels, taxis etc.

Let's all laugh at them while we can, it's great to take the piss out of the rangers supporters at work, but to wish to see a club disappear is shameful.

Elgin City supporter

I'd be surprised if you could name their manager.

[welshbairn]

[WeeHectorPar]

More from Comedy Central.

In the words of the prophet "How thick is a plank; how thick can a plank become?"

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=218502

I'd love to know if anyone can get to the end of this without flooding his keyboard.

[A-Mac]

Had a good old laugh at Sandy Jardine today.

[WeeHectorPar]

It's not really a new club in the eyes of the football authorities, though, if it transfers its SPL share and SFA membership across. That's the whole point of transferring them... it's "the same club", so that is why it keeps playing in SPL, continues full SFA membership, etc.

If it "keeps" the sanction... can't register new players over 18... why wouldn't it "keep" the right to renew existing registrations?

Miller's plans are confusing enough for uncertainty, I'd admit, but the above doesn't make much sense.

Which could be irrelevant surely? SFA sanction doesn't prevent them negotiating new contracts with players over 18 already with them. And if the Newco isn't the same club for registrations, why would it be for sanctions?

Not very easy negociating new contracts when you don't have any money. Unless the players are willing to play for loyalty points.

[HaikuHibee]

What a bunch of hypocrites and bigots.

Our clubs (and scottish football) need the old firm. Dunfermline never paid their players and the taxman on time in February, should they be shutdown? Forgotten already the rangers supporters bailed you out?

Hearts have been doing it for the past couple of seasons, Celtic (along with every club in Europe) evaded paying tax when they were the first British club to win the European cup. Strip them of their tainted history?

Even today, you can visit football grounds up and down the country and you will still find the cash only turnstiles, these are used to pay cash in hand expenses to players and officials to avoid paying tax.

If we're getting on our high horses and climbing the moral high ground then we have to start all over again because we're all guilty....!

Barcelona are hundreds of millions in debt, which includes vast amounts of unpaid tax, are we going to call for their demise or is it just the Scottish bigotry disease that is calling for the Rangers scalp?

The old firm generate approx £5.5million in ticket sales for the rest of us, we hike up prices when they visit and add to that the amount our towns take when they visit, pubs, hotels, taxis etc.

Let's all laugh at them while we can, it's great to take the piss out of the rangers supporters at work, but to wish to see a club disappear is shameful.

The only reason everyone is pissed off with Rangers is that all this melodramatic bullshit is only happening because Rangers have exploited secterianism and West of Scotland religious tribalism for their own financial gain. The fact of the matter is Rangers are not just another club. Even the whole "we don't do walking away" is laced with religious connotations. No other support with similar financial problems ever claimed "we supported Irish protestants in a civil war so we know all about saving a club from administration".

The SFA's stadium regulations had a far more detrimental impact on clubs than a transfer ban causes. I cannot remember death threats being made or Traynor and Chick Young calling for SFA officials to be named when that happened.

Edited April 29, 2012 by HaikuHibee

[HibeeJibee]

Not very easy negociating new contracts when you don't have any money. Unless the players are willing to play for loyalty points.

Of course, but that applies to the existing company in continued administration/after CVA as much as it does a Newco after transfer-of-share.

[WeeHectorPar]

Of course, but that applies to the existing company in continued administration/after CVA as much as it does a Newco after transfer-of-share.

Exactly. So how can they imagine that they can possibly carry on with a team capable of getting them back into Europe at the end of next season?

[EKACCIES]

Why are Rangers fans arranging protest marches and making veiled threats against all other clubs, I hope their bully boy tactics are seen for what they are.

Every fan of every other club shoudl unite against these bully boys.

What punishmnet do Rangers fans think is fair ?

They keep claiming the club is on it's knees, as far as I can see it is business as usual , with only 2 players leaving Ibrox so far.

Perhaps the Rangers fand who keep going on about relegation to Div 3, will gte their wish , as they won't accept transfer ban , and financial pemalties are meaningless.

I remember being in Div 3 , it was fun , but being deducted 15 points for missing one game was unfair , but then Rangers didn't go out their way to help our appeal.

We all must remember Rangers are too big to be punished, that big indeed the only punishment that will fit their crime is explusion from football.

If Rangers fans don't accept the transfer embargo , every other club will turn on Rangers , so there can only be one solution, expel Rangers and their bully boys.

[Captain_Sensible]

What a bunch of hypocrites and bigots.

is it just the Scottish bigotry disease that is calling for the Rangers scalp?

Why do you use the terms "bigots" and "bigotry"?

Your use of these terms would suggest that you think that most people in Scotland who want to see Rangers die do so out of some sort of bigotry against Protestantism?

I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority of supporters of so called diddy clubs aren't Catholics. Indeed, I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority aren't religious in the slightest.

How on earth would "bigotry" be a motivation for these people to see Rangers die?

Let's all laugh at them while we can, it's great to take the piss out of the rangers supporters at work, but to wish to see a club disappear is shameful.

What is shameful is wanting to see a club like Rangers continue in existence.

Edited April 29, 2012 by Captain_Sensible

[WeeHectorPar]

Why are Rangers fans arranging protest marches and making veiled threats against all other clubs, I hope their bully boy tactics are seen for what they are.

Every fan of every other club shoudl unite against these bully boys.

1) What punishmnet do Rangers fans think is fair ?

2) They keep claiming the club is on it's knees, as far as I can see it is business as usual , with only 2 players leaving Ibrox so far.

Perhaps the Rangers fand who keep going on about relegation to Div 3, will gte their wish , as they won't accept transfer ban , and financial pemalties are meaningless.

I remember being in Div 3 , it was fun , but being deducted 15 points for missing one game was unfair , but then Rangers didn't go out their way to help our appeal.

We all must remember Rangers are too big to be punished, that big indeed the only punishment that will fit their crime is explusion from football.

If Rangers fans don't accept the transfer embargo , every other club will turn on Rangers , so there can only be one solution, expel Rangers and their bully boys.

1) Just as in Guantanamo Bay where muslims were forced to watch porn videos, bears would protest about their human rights being abused but would submit to being force-fed Mars Bars and McDos.

2) They're on their knees because, having been abandoned by God who is obviously a t*m, they are now praying to Allah 5 times a day.

[TheScarf]

Neil McCann on Sky there saying the £80 million odd Rangers owed under Moonbean was 'sustainable'. It was only when Whyte too over than things went pear-shaped.

Now there are 2 issues I have with that statement straight away -

1. It clearly isn't sustainable Neil, as the club are in administration, that means a third party team have to takeover and try to broker a deal to pay the creditors what they are owed as the retards who employed you couldn't handle their finances and cut their cloth accordingly. Which brings me to my second point.

2. Did you have 2 contracts like the guys who played along side you Neil? You know the one Moonbeam, who you have defended to the hilt in all of this (probably out of blind loyalty) was offering you as you and your colleagues swash-buckled your way to winning trophy upon trophy against teams who scrimped and saved to be able to put a team on the park?

[WaffenThinMint]

I was going to watch the final Bigotfest of the year, as it could be a hysterical historical occasion (last one ever!), but I couldn't even stick out the prelude with that stupid "Heady Haw" cheap auld yin's pub music blaring out like something off a bloody show Sydney Devine would have compared.

It was the way the potato faces and mono-eyebrows at one end were lapping it all up whilst it increased the piggy-eyes and fat folds at the neck contingent at the other end's seethe that encapsulated what an utter embarrassment these two are, more stuck in a time warp of believing in a world that disappeared 100 years ago than your average Sunday Post journalist. If you played that embarrassing crap at any other ground, you'd be subject to ridicule across the football world. But to these twats, it's all part of their "culture" and "heritage". Utter peasants, proud of their backwardness.

To watch a gathering of Old Firm fans is like going to football's equivalent of Beamish. Thank God it's about to be confined to history.

Edited April 29, 2012 by WaffenThinMint

[welshbairn]

Neil McCann on Sky there saying the £80 million odd Rangers owed under Moonbean was 'sustainable'. It was only when Whyte too over than things went pear-shaped.

Now there are 2 issues I have with that statement straight away -

1. It clearly isn't sustainable Neil, as the club are in administration, that means a third party team have to takeover and try to broker a deal to pay the creditors what they are owed as the retards who employed you couldn't handle their finances and cut their cloth accordingly. Which brings me to my second point.

2. Did you have 2 contracts like the guys who played along side you Neil? You know the one Moonbeam, who you have defended to the hilt in all of this (probably out of blind loyalty) was offering you as you and your colleagues swash-buckled your way to winning trophy upon trophy against teams who scrimped and saved to be able to put a team on the park?

Neil McCann's the only ex-player pundit who can make Billy Dodds sound like an intellectual..