WeeHectorPar Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 i think you are pretty representative of rangers fans as a whole you dont care that your club has done a lot wrong you dont care that you have inflicted great harm on the scottish game you revel in it. you enjoy success even though you know its built on cheating would you agree with these three points and that its symptomatic of rangers fans as a whole? "A'm no agreein' tae nuthin' until a've seen ma lawyer" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 All sounds a bit anodyne to me. I daresay we couldn't expect much more, but it is moderately encouraging to hear the likes of Stewart Gilmour make noises about Rangers over-stepping the mark etc. Anyone can bump their gums. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuqry9SMjQM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 That's if it's less than £1,500 on average per month. I think it might be a bit more in Rangers case. I think you'll find it's considerably less... £0.00 for the last wee while I believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 So all we've had confirmed so far is: 1. For teams entering administration: a penalty of ten points or one third of their previous season's total, whichever is greater, will be deducted. 2. The 2 rules on paying the taxman and players on time have been passed. 3. No decision has been made on any Newco's other than making a case by case decision on each one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 The opposite. The problem with the SFA rules were they were absolutely specific and left no room for a halfway house sanction. These confirmed rules will apply to Rangers...if they didn't the vote wouldn't have been postponed as it wouldn't have meant a thing in this case and therefore wouldn't have been controversial. Remember, this decision is just confirming the vote taken during the season. Which is now over. Newco Rangers would start 30 points down then. A Rangers in admin would start 30 points down. That punishment won't apply to the newco. The one-third/10 points rule is good in theory, but it is open to abuse. For example, if Rangers had been planning to start next season still in admin, they could have deliberately lost their last few games this season in order to reduce their deduction for next season. There isn't really any way around that though, and this rule is better than a 10 point deduction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) Alasdair Lamont @BBCAlLamont Re vote on voting structure: adjourned to SPL agm ETA: I believe that's next month, can anyone confirm? Edited May 30, 2012 by Spain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Anyone can bump their gums. They certainly can, I think the point here is that previously Gilmour seemed to side on the commercial side of the fence whereas his latest comments seem to point to a move to the sporting side. Something that most St Mirren fans will take some, if little, comfort from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobardon Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 A Rangers in admin would start 30 points down. That punishment won't apply to the newco. The one-third/10 points rule is good in theory, but it is open to abuse. For example, if Rangers had been planning to start next season still in admin, they could have deliberately lost their last few games this season in order to reduce their deduction for next season. There isn't really any way around that though, and this rule is better than a 10 point deduction. Yeah, you're right. But I'd expect they'll be dead by then, so it won't matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Alasdair Lamont @BBCAlLamont Re vote on voting structure: adjourned to SPL agm How surprising. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Hearts are screwed then. no necessarily........there's always the Civil Courts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 They certainly can, I think the point here is that previously Gilmour seemed to side on the commercial side of the fence whereas his latest comments seem to point to a move to the sporting side. Something that most St Mirren fans will take some, if little, comfort from. It's not aimed at him specifically but they've all bumped their gums over the last 18 months, still haven't shown a pair of balls between them, I don't expect them to either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I'm feeling quite optimistic about this Newco vote now. Hope it's not misplaced optimism.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 They certainly can, I think the point here is that previously Gilmour seemed to side on the commercial side of the fence whereas his latest comments seem to point to a move to the sporting side. Something that most St Mirren fans will take some, if little, comfort from. Dunno if as cut and dried as that. He's got a controlling interest to sell on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Alasdair Lamont @BBCAlLamont If clubs don't pay taxman on time there'll be a transfer embargo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 How surprising. No point in holding the vote while there is still a Rangers around, because any reform vote would lose (by winning 10-2). But by the AGM, there may not be a Rangers, which would allow the "diddies" to win 10-1 or 11-1 depending on the circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I'm feeling quite optimistic about this Newco vote now. Hope it's not misplaced optimism.. So am I actually. Although I still think they're waiting to see if the SFA will kill them first for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Alasdair Lamont @BBCAlLamontRe vote on voting structure: adjourned to SPL agm bloody typical 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Alasdair Lamont @BBCAlLamont An SPL board meeting taking place now regarding Rangers dual contracts allegations. Hopefully an update later 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araminta Moonbeam QC Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 SPL board meeting now re dual contracts investigation. Update later possibly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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