Sam Leitch Loyal Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Oh shit - this is bound to swing it now! Oh look - there's T_S_A_R!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 They could agre ethe transfer of the SPL share from oldco to newco then immediately declare every result in 11/12 as a 0-3 defeat thus relegating them. ^^^even more cynical than me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 There is no change to rule 5. It simply says there will be three divisions of 10. It says nothing about how they are constituted. There is nothing in the rules to prevent any club being voted in to division one I stated originally that this would be required in Sevco are voted in without Dun* resigning. This would then give 31 and 3 * 10 != 31 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Is it not on record that the SFA would veto any move to put Rangers in the SPL? At least two clubs claimed that Regan said this in a previous meeting. He denied it publicly. Even if he did say it, he would have been talking about the transfer of membership. Im sure he could try and convince us all that accepting a new application was different I wish his worries were as groundless as you're making out Mr X. Take a look at the Queens thread on the 2nd Division Board. It links to an interview with Davie Rae in which he says the financial realities mean Rangers have to go to the 1st. Now I know that Rae's no longer on the board, but he reminds us that he's the majority shareholder and says that Hewitson sees it the same way and he expects us to vote for the 1st division option. It's not proof positive, but it's a very clear indication of where we're heading and it's disgusting. To be honest, I hadnt read all of Raes interview when I posted that - I got about two paragraphs in and gave up! I didnt say his worries were groundless, apologies if what I said implied that. All I said, is there has been no official announcement, which remains the case 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Whats Jim Traynor been saying recently - gone awfully quiet last few days? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 My money is on the SFL rejecting Rangers in the First Division and the SPL then going with 11 teams next season And how on Earth is that going to work with the split? Ssides in the top part will play a different number of games to those in the bottom section. Can they abandon the split in the space of a few weeks? Hopefully not as it's one of the few things that prevents a mid-table borefest towards the end of the season imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 So today's decision will determine to future of Scottish football: Vote NO = a vote for sporting integrity and a start at readdressing the issues that have hindered Scottish football for many years. or Vote YES = Scottish football consists of Celtic & Rangers (Servco 2012 FC) only and a National team largely ignored by the vast majority of the Scottish population. or am I being too melodramatic ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 You do know that it will be the seven man SFL board who decide if they play in SFL1 or SFL3, right? It does`nt matter how many clubs would like to say NO as the matter has been taken out of their hands. Which is why the clubs have to vote no to resolution 2. Because they don't have enough information to vote for it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Here's a great opportunity for the graphically-literate among you: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/gallery/2012/jul/11/the-gallery-andres-iniesta 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Well, how about we start with information regarding the various legal issues to be resolved, and whether Sevco Scotland validly hold the 'Rangers FC' SPL share? There is also little information, never mind legal commitments with the ongoing financing of Sevco Scotland. Let's not pretend it's all straightforward. That said, a practical approach is required, and that might mean taking a decision on limited information. It's all going to be another balls-up if Sevco are admitted to the SFL, and then HMRC decides that all the tax debts transfer too (which is a possibility, the likelihood of which I can't say without more information). What's that coming over the hill, is it a taxman? fkn hope so 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 My money is on the SFL rejecting Rangers in the First Division and the SPL then going with 11 teams next season thus allowing the SPL to bring Rangers back next season in an enlarged SPL. This will also allow the SPL to retain their sponsors, TV money, etc for the following season on the basis that Rangers will only be missing for a season Aye right - and the SPL clubs will be have multiple orgasms over the thought of match free Saturdays. They voted to a man (apart from Killie's chairman, who has shares in Rangers) to kick Rangers out, why the hell would they stay 11 clubs for a season in the hope that Sevco5088 gets its s**t together in time for season 2013/14 and hasn't in the meantime gone to the wall and its assets sold by Green? Pretty massive gamble to take. No, they booted out Rangers because they realised they were more trouble than they were worth, and all the financial predictions of doom didn't cut it, least of all from a Cockwomble with a history of exaggeration and hyperbolic "armageddon for all clubs" scenarios from his time at Norwich City when the subject of TV packages and football were concerned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Whats Jim Traynor been saying recently - gone awfully quiet last few days? He's busy looking out his Airdrie scarf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 alex thomson @alextomo Annan Chairman on Hampden steps calling for SFA and SPL chiefs to go 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 You are talking shite. I pity people like you that believe all the bullshit you read in the tabloids and don't have the common sense to follow the wider debate that is taking place. No he's not. If the clubs vote yes to resolution 2 then it will be up to the sfl board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Charles Green says it is time for 'vilification and persecution' to end: http://sport.stv.tv/..._medium=twitter Charles Green has called for clarity over where Rangers newco will play this season. vilification: smear: slanderous defamation. persecution: the act or practice of persecuting on the basis of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or beliefs that differ from those of the persecutor. Charles Green is accusing people of vilifying and persecuting "Rangers"? a club who along with many members of its supporters vilified and persecuted everyone who is not and was not one of them for most of its history! Accusing everyone else of doing what "Rangers" do ... this man is as funny as Craig Whyte and David Murray were! Edited July 13, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 So there's 31 clubs voting today? - the 30 that were already in the SFL, plus Dunfermline who were relegated at the end of last season? Or am I spectacularly stoopid this morning? Hangover perchance? -1 Ross County 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Roth Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 STV Sport @STVSport Charles Green says it is time for 'vilification and persecution' to end http://bit.ly/NeZFVK Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite f**k, he's wearing his lucky shiny grey suit. This allows him to go under doors without opening them - be afraid... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coqofthenorth Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 So today's decision will determine to future of Scottish football: Vote NO = a vote for sporting integrity and a start at readdressing the issues that have hindered Scottish football for many years. or Vote YES = Scottish football consists of Celtic & Rangers (Servco 2012 FC) only and a National team largely ignored by the vast majority of the Scottish population. or am I being too melodramatic ? I don't see it quite like that. I see today as another milestone but there's a long way to go and several other battles ahead if things are truly going to change for the better. A NO vote will help but it's what happens after that that counts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdo Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Piece of advice to all chairmen: 'f**k you I won't do what you tell me!' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 No - Dunfermline swapped places with Ross County. The only space atm is in the SPL. Spectacularly stoopid it is then! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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