djchapsticks Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Someone did it 30 or so pages back, but after today, if you re-visit the first post on this thread, I got it spectacularly wrong. Mind you, this was based on a long, long list of football clubs who seemingly played the 'administration card' as a way to debt-dodge and take a short-term hit, before emerging stronger 'going forward'. If everyone else survived, I thought they would. They still might. And if you visit the 2nd post on this thread. I got it almost spectacularly right. I say 'almost' as I mentioned them wiggling off the hook, on hindsight I don't know why as everything else I said in the post was the polar opposite of them wiggling off the hook. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Leighton Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) It's not. Turriff/Formartine were granted associate membership in February but didn't get (Entry) license until a couple of months later, e.g. see article below. Criteria are similar but not whollly identical. http://www.formartin...icle?newsid=189 And it's the criteria here that is the important aspect. I have seen the SFA Associate Membership criteria and it is very similar to the lower ends of Club Licencing as the latter was pretty much built on the former. Sevco do not, by all accounts, meet the financial requirements. The Licencing Committee awards Associate Membership. Teams not likely to comply with it will not get Associate Membership. The two are being linked. Edited July 16, 2012 by Jim Leighton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Roll up, roll up! Wagers for the next SPL Club to go in to administration please.. Roll up roll up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Roll up, roll up! Wagers for the next SPL Club to go in to administration please.. Roll up roll up! Dundee, They have previous 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cobardon Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Seems no one here yet has caught this latest instalment on the BBC....finally, the massive redundancy programme will start at Rangers. The only chance a 3rd division 'Rangers' have is to fire away. If only they'd done this four months back maybe they could have survived this...now, it's a last desperate gamble. Edited July 16, 2012 by Cobardon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagmaster Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Man, the shit keeps coming. Thought it would quieten down after today but no. If Green accepts sanctions so that Rangers keep their history does this mean they are then obliged to pay their creditors? Edited July 16, 2012 by Stagmaster 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 And it's the criteria here that is the important aspect. I have seen the SFA Associate Membership criteria and it is very similar to the lower ends of Club Licencing as the latter was pretty much built on the former. Sevco do not, by all accounts, meet the financial requirements. Quite probably - my point was simply that people are forever saying "look the licensing pack says" XYZ but until a copy of the current criteria for Associate Membership is known it's only supposition. It's also worth noting that (way back in this saga) SFA clarified to one of the broadsheets that what financial criteria there would be for a new club is 'discretionary'*. *although one suspects there's a catch-all somewhere making anything discretionary However in any scenario where Green's trying to dodge sanctions, you doubt they'd be particularly open to exercising discretion, although again that can only be supposition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Three more leaving. Apparently with Green's blessing - this is a far cry from his previous attitude. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramour Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 1342468006[/url]' post='6437696']GIOVANNI DI STEFANO@DEVILSADVOKAT ...rest assured that the US has no holds on prosecuting anyone regardless of whether they hold the office GIOVANNI DI STEFANO@DEVILSADVOKAT ..of President or pawn." GIOVANNI DI STEFANO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbungo1874 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Roll up, roll up! Wagers for the next SPL Club to go in to administration please.. Roll up roll up! The thing is a SPL club going into administration is not such a bad thing a cheeky wee CVA and a 10 point deduction then you go on your merry way. The only way you could cock this up is if you pissed off the tax man and nobody is that daft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 do you think this was regans saving grace ? head out sand, removed from rangers collective arse, read what the fans are saying about boycots and keeping history and shrugging off debt etc.. and just stuck the boot right in the sacks. either accept we are in cherge or admit you are newco and drop the 'history' fucking yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Orcs now grunting about playing in NI ffs! Any chance they could all up sticks and move over there and leave us all in peace! I'd chuck money in the bucket. "EXILE AN ORC" give us your bank details.............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invalid Probe Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 do you think this was regans saving grace ? head out sand, removed from rangers collective arse, read what the fans are saying about boycots and keeping history and shrugging off debt etc.. and just stuck the boot right in the sacks. either accept we are in cherge or admit you are newco and drop the 'history' fucking yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas He's probably fucked off with Green for standing in front of the SFL meeting and telling them he was promised Div 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Three more leaving. Apparently with Green's blessing - this is a far cry from his previous attitude. Time up update the squad list From the Rangers website http://www.rangers.co.uk/first-team Goalkeepers 1. Allan Mcgregor Gone 25. Neil Alexander 30. Scott Gallagher Defenders 4. Kirk Broadfoot 2. Dorin Goian Going 12. Lee Wallace 18. Carlos Bocanegra Going 32. Ross Perry 37. Chris Hegarty Midfielders 6. Lee McCulloch 7. Maurice Edu Going 14. Steven Naismith Gone 17. Juan Palazon Ortiz Gone 19. Sone Aluko Gone 21. Alejandro Bedoya 26. Jamie Ness Gone 35. Kyle Hutton 40. andrew Mitchell 41. Rhys McCabe Gone 58. Lewis McDonald Strikers 11. Kyle Lafferty Gone 28. Salim Kerkar - contract up, training but not signed up 38. Kane Hemmings Edited July 16, 2012 by Enrico Annoni 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 The thing is a SPL club going into administration is not such a bad thing a cheeky wee CVA and a 10 point deduction then you go on your merry way. The only way you could cock this up is if you pissed off the tax man and nobody is that daft. The rules were changed to the points decision EITHER 10 points OR one-third of your previous season's total, whichever is larger, so it would have a fairly big effect on any SPL club now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 This is more like it. For so long now, we've been furious at the governing bodies. At last we can get back to laughing at opinion on RM. Welcome back boys - it's been too long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Time up update the squad list From the Rangers website http://www.rangers.co.uk/first-team Goalkeepers 1. Allan Mcgregor Gone 25. Neil Alexander 30. Scott Gallagher Defenders 4. Kirk Broadfoot 2. Dorin Goian Going 12. Lee Wallace 18. Carlos Bocanegra Going 32. Ross Perry 37. Chris Hegarty Midfielders 6. Lee McCulloch 7. Maurice Edu Going 14. Steven Naismith Gone 17. Juan Palazon Ortiz Gone 19. Sone Aluko Gone 21. Alejandro Bedoya 26. Jamie Ness Gone 35. Kyle Hutton 40. andrew Mitchell 41. Rhys McCabe Gone 58. Lewis McDonald Strikers 11. Kyle Lafferty Gone 28. Salim Kerkar - contract up, trainning but not signed up 38. Kane Hemmings Are they still signing Ian Black? My hall and bathroom could do with a lick of paint if they're not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Fucking glorious news to come back home to after a game of football! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Leighton Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Quite probably - my point was simply that people are forever saying "look the licensing pack says" XYZ but until a copy of the current criteria for Associate Membership is known it's only supposition. It's also worth noting that (way back in this saga) SFA clarified to one of the broadsheets that what financial criteria there would be for a new club is 'discretionary'*. *although one suspects there's a catch-all somewhere making anything discretionary However in any scenario where Green's trying to dodge sanctions, you doubt they'd be particularly open to exercising discretion, although again that can only be supposition. Despite what the Formartine news story says, I was under the impression that Associate Membership of SFA now equalled entry to the Club Licencing programme. The SFA's own news story from Feb 3rd says: http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1961&newsCategoryID=3&newsID=9263 The Highland League clubs both made successful applications through the Licensing Committee and, after both submissions were ratified by the Scottish FA Board and... Both clubs now fall under the club licensing system. As a result, they will be able to access the Scottish FA’s annual performance-related fee payments and be eligible to apply for Scottish Football Partnership funding for ground improvements. I don't see how you can 'fall under the club licensing system' if you're not in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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