Invalid Probe Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) What it demonstrated more than anything else was their arrogance, their belief that they would get away with all of it because of who they were - ah, the fresh air of reality smells so much the sweeter for it! Who in their right mind thinks staying overnight in a hotel is OK rather than a 45min journey on the day. How does it even come about? I don't think it would even cross most peoples mind as an option to a non existent problem. Did they used to stay in hotels for away games to Kilmarnock or Motherwell? They're outside Glasgow. Edited July 22, 2012 by Invalid Probe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Who in their right mind thinks staying overnight in a hotel is OK rather than a 45min journey on the day. How does it even come about? I don't think it would even cross most peoples mind as an option to a non existent problem. Did they used to stay in hotels for away games to Kilmarnock or Motherwell? They're outside Glasgow. Quite right. When I have non existent problems to solve I can usually come up with better options than staying somewhere overnight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotelandywalker Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Why weren't applications invited for the vacant SFL place then? Only guessing what went on behind SPL/SFL/SFA closed doors, but the SFL's controversial decision might've been linked to the SFA insisting that oldco punishments should be transferred with their membership to newco. The necessity to fill the vacancy asap might also have been a factor - the SPL dropped this on the SFL very late in the day. No doubt though IMO that the correct course of action should've been to consider all applications (as per the rule book, no matter how long it took) before deciding which new team was most suitable Your "greedy" take on things just gets more ridiculous the more I think about it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The necessity to fill the vacancy asap might also have been a factor - the SPL dropped this on the SFL very late in the day. The final decsion may have been late in the day, but any SFL chairman who claims he didn't know that a vote on Rangers Newco in the SFL is either a liar or an imbecile. Possibly both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotelandywalker Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The final decsion may have been late in the day, but any SFL chairman who claims he didn't know that a vote on Rangers Newco in the SFL is either a liar or an imbecile. Possibly both. Not sure what you mean? The SFL didn't have a crystal ball. The SPL vote was very late and the final outcome was never certain, even though the result was very convincing in the end. That resulted in the SFL being rushed into making a decision on how to fill the vacancy before the start of the new season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbungo1874 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Not sure what you mean? The SFL didn't have a crystal ball. The SPL vote was very late and the final outcome was never certain, even though the result was very convincing in the end. That resulted in the SFL being rushed into making a decision on how to fill the vacancy before the start of the new season. Yet again this is Rangers fault as they did not apply to the SFL until the SPL said bugger off, if they had applied at the same time it would not have been as rushed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Over Scotland Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The final decsion may have been late in the day, but any SFL chairman who claims he didn't know that a vote on Rangers Newco in the SFL is either a liar or an imbecile. Possibly both. Pretty sure there are some fairly important words missing from that post somewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I have been away for the weekend, and I have discovered that the idiots at Southampton have decided to pay £800k for Steve Davies. Now I thought he was one of the players that refused to transfer under TUPE regulations? If that is the case surely Newco Rangers do not receive this money? Would that money then go to the Oldco to be added to any monies raised due to liquidation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/07/22/ex-rangers-owner-craig-whyte-is-back-in-business-as-a-debt-collector-86908-23911276/ The guy is a legend, sadly he seems to have hit on hard times as he once had wealth off the radar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 "Rangers in crisis: Sevco have until Friday to gain SFA membership and play football next season.""Charles Green's re-animated Rangers have only four days to agree on the terms which will allow them to play next season." http://www.telegraph...ext-season.html "Of course, the 10-point penalty, like the exile from European competition, are not punishments: they merely represent the consequences of falling into administration." "Similarly, newco Rangers have not been penalised by beginning life in the Third Division: indeed, no other completely new club would have been allowed to enter the bottom tier." "It is also true that no other new club would have been even considered for membership of the SPL. Again, their failure to have the oldco's membership share transferred is not a punitive measure." "Equally, the £160,000 fine resulted from the inability or unwillingness [or both] of discredited owner Craig Whyte to pay taxes or any other bills which the club ran up during his tenure." "Likewise, players, most of whom gave up 75 per cent of their salaries for three months in a vain attempt to save the old club, are not punishing Sevco by refusing to transfer their contracts to the new company and exercising their right to find alternative employment." "The SPL want an independent commission to rule on whether Rangers broke the rules during previous campaigns by paying players with so-called side contracts."http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18941515 "They are due to hand over their findings to that commission on 10th August." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Just for a moment, consider this. What would the implications be if rangers won their appeal? They only appeal to Goths and necrophiliacs they are dead. If you are talking about the BTC then I very much doubt it if the evidence the BBC had shown in their investigation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I have been away for the weekend, and I have discovered that the idiots at Southampton have decided to pay £800k for Steve Davies. Now I thought he was one of the players that refused to transfer under TUPE regulations? If that is the case surely Newco Rangers do not receive this money? Would that money then go to the Oldco to be added to any monies raised due to liquidation? since it was a NewCo that was objecting to the transfer I have to assume that it was the NewCo that got the cash. Essentially Davis and Southampton have agreed that he would transfer but immediately leave for Southampton for 800k. That's what it looks like to me. Given FIFA's recent stance on this it could have been a very expensive way for Southampton to speed things up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanmistermustard Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Surely if the SFA believe that Scottish Football needs a Rangers/Newco, and they tried hard enough to get them in SFL1 for that reason, then a deal will be struck. But hopefully McCoists whinging is what costs them in the end with some beak getting so fed up he snaps and tells them to go f&$* themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 The one who promised a big party when Rangers died and the one who denies all knowlege of this. Yeh around page 600 or there abouts.Coz I was stalking on P&B around then . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB-Scotland Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) http://www.dailyreco. ..86908-23911276/ The guy is a legend, sadly he seems to have hit on hard times as he once had wealth off the radar Wow. My thoughts after reading that 'article': 1) Murray still has the West Coast Media held neatly in his pocket. 2) The dumbed down writing style of the tabloids hits all new lows when it comes to writing about the Old Firm. Edited July 23, 2012 by RB-Scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuoAnLai Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Loki, Southampton have publicly denied that they paid 800K. PR from newco to give the illusion that they can get some cash in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I've never heard of this. Do you have a link? from about 6pm last night, hidden at the bottom of the Stretford info...... (UKPA) – 15 minutes ago Controversial football agent Paul Stretford is "assisting" Rangers newco, the Ibrox club have confirmed. Gers chief executive Charles Green is using the services of the agent, who was banned in 2008 for 18 months and fined £300,000 for a number of misconduct charges relating to how he acquired the right to represent Manchester United and England striker Wayne Rooney six years earlier. A spokesman for Rangers told Press Association Sport: "Paul Stretford is assisting the club." Stretford's link with the Ibrox club is revealed as Ally McCoist prepares to bolster his squad for life in the Irn-Bru Third Division next season. On acceptance of Scottish Football Association membership, still to be ratified, the Light Blues' boss will have until September 1 to sign players before a 12-month transfer embargo begins. Rangers fans may wonder about Stretford's remit given the club's new league status and the apparent lack of cash available at Ibrox to bring players in, but confirmation of the Englishman's involvement comes while Green continues to challenge the decisions of the players who walked away from the club this summer. Yesterday, Rangers confirmed that they and Southampton had come to a financial agreement over the transfer of Steven Davis. The two clubs agreed an undisclosed fee for the Northern Irishman, reported as £800,000, although that is disputed by the English club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Can't really see what the talks are about. SFA/SFL can state if u do not sign up by Friday it's game over. Here are the conditions, Dear Greeny/Fat Sal/the Dead them/ Sevco - Accept or die at the end of the week. Edited July 23, 2012 by MEADOWXI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 If you are talking about the BTC then I very much doubt it if the evidence the BBC had shown in their investigation. This post is also missing vital words. Come on guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Leggo has gone nuts today, After all, Jim Traynor and the Record have led the way so often during this complex Rangers story that there is no reason to doubt the veracity of this morning’s tale. http://leggoland2.blogspot.co.uk/ If I had a quid for every time traynor has been wrong, id have at least £14. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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