Lofarl Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Don't see what all the fuss is about. Even if the rangers suffer a admin event. They're pals at the SPFL will help them out faster than you can say "league reconstruction" to shoehorn them back into the top flight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I am sure i can find a spare pound or two...How many does that get me? Probably a fiver would get you.. The last Club. The currant Club. The next Club. Far better/cheaper than shares 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Probably a fiver would get you.. The last Club. The currant Club. The next Club. Far better/cheaper than shares Very subtle, Bingo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I know the majority of Sevconians are a bit thick and slow on the uptake, but is it too difficult for even you just to hit the link?? You want my view.....Waddell is totally spot on, on everything he says in his column!! "McCoist is a bright, articulate, likeable guy." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep77 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I can t understand how it has come to this again after starting a fresh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 "McCoist is a bright, articulate, likeable venal, self-serving, loathsome, two-faced, money-grubbing guy c**t." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Very subtle, Bingo. 'Tis my game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) I can t understand how it has come to this again after starting a freshIt's because smart but unscrupulous people saw a means to make money.Gullible people failed to see a means of losing it; although they unwittingly embraced it. Edited August 31, 2014 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 "McCoist is a bright, articulate, likeable guy." Well maybe except that part...lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I know the majority of Sevconians are a bit thick and slow on the uptake, but is it too difficult for even you just to hit the link?? You want my view.....Waddell is totally spot on, on everything he says in his column!! Yet you can't tell me why the article is spot on, it just is lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Yet you can't tell me why the article is spot on, it just is lol Not my fault if you can't read! However if you can read and you are just being plain stupid, have a wee look at it and tell me what you disagree with. I have told you I agree with everything, bar the Salary is a great guy bit. I can understand you guys getting upset over the potential 2nd demise of a team playing at Ibrox, but don't take it out on us...haha! Edited August 31, 2014 by Sting777 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I can t understand how it has come to this again after starting a fresh No need to understand, just enjoy. Yet you can't tell me why the article is spot on, it just is lol You're not very good. Your manager is a clown, he's under a bit of pressure and appears to be relying on the tried and tested method of signing himself out of jail. You don't have any money, which makes signing a 5th goalkeeper seem like a fairly unusual decision and perhaps indicative of it not really mattering how long and expensive his contract is. Just you wait, when they bring the face painter back in, that's the sign THEY sold their road back to the top of the game as ‘The Journey’. It would appear Rangers have arrived at a destination many financial experts predicted for them long ago. The edge of a cliff. As the directors sit there like Thelma and Louise, with the engine revving, you wonder if the question was not whether the club would end up being driven over the edge but more a matter of when the crash would occur. How else do you explain it? No sane person would surely run a business the way they’ve run theirs. It’s as if they have committed commercial suicide. An example? It didn’t make a headline. Barely registered a mention. But if you want even a tiny indication of exactly how dysfunctional Rangers are, then look no further than the signing of Lee Robinson last week. A 28-year-old back-up keeper to a 35-year-old back-up. When they already have the Scotland Under-19 No.1 AND the Scotland Under-17 No.1 on their books? Another wage? Aye, why not, eh? We’ve been splashing money needlessly for two and a half years on players we don’t need and can’t afford – another won’t kill us. Their share offering on Friday was like taking a tube of Savlon to a cremation. They’ve admitted to the stock exchange that if they don’t get at least £3m, they’re knackered. And even if they do, they’ve openly shifted the problem a couple of months further down the line. Yet still they sign players like autograph hunters? They act as if they don’t give a monkey’s. Other clubs coming back from the brink, the first thing they attacked was their cost base. Trimmed all the fat and started from the ground up. Live within your means. New club motto? Numquam Iterum. Never Again. Yet here we are, back at square one. Ally on the back pages, pleading: ‘Don’t sell my stars’. Why not? Truth is you should never have been allowed to sign most of them in the first place. This whole ‘We’re Rangers and until someone tells me otherwise, we’ll continue to behave like Rangers’ schtick? McCoist is a bright, articulate, likeable guy. I refuse to believe he’s so gullible. That he never sat there and thought ‘This can’t be right’.I’m not saying anything I haven’t said to him in a dozen different press conferences. I’ve asked him why they weren’t hunkering down, signing players for their level, saving cash. He always replied: “The fans deserve better.” Damn right they do. But they also deserve their club to survive after what they’ve put in over the years. In a football sense, I haven’t yet met a Rangers fan who didn’t think the club would have been better bleeding half a dozen youngsters into their line-up back on day one and developing them properly than going down the road they did. I haven’t yet met a fan who wouldn’t have put up with the odd defeat to see some genuine progress and fiscal responsibility rather than watching the likes of Richard Foster, Stevie Smith, Ian Black, Dean Shiels or Jon Daly. Or Lee Robinson. Nice lad, decent gloves – but what about Liam Kelly and Robby McCrorie, two of the highest-rated teenagers in their position in Scotland? Every other club in the country is giving youth a chance and reaping the rewards. Not The Rangers. Sorry lads. Can’t trust you, even on the bench. No time to have faith in you. Other diddy clubs might get away with playing teenagers. They may even excel. Hell, look at Conor McGrandles – 82 senior games by the age of 18 and a £1million move from Falkirk to Norwich. Rangers are too good for that, though. Listen, the dysfunctional management of the club’s affairs runs a million miles deeper than the team. These are just examples of how a total breakdown in management manifests itself in public. What goes on behind closed doors or up marble staircases? We may never know. But the fact they’re putting out the begging bowl in such a humiliating manner suggests none of it is good. And then we have the ever-hovering presence of Dave King . King has been criticised for his silence but don’t let anyone kid you that he hasn’t been waiting for this exact moment. The lowest ebb. The final wheezing breaths of a regime someone as long in the tooth as he is always thought would arrive. Sure, he’s a Rangers fan. Sure, his intentions for the club will be more honourable than the current incumbents. But spare me the idea his timing suggests anything other than his own benefit being served too. In the meantime, the Rangers fans are once again left with what they call Morton’s Fork – two choices, both undesirable. Take up the share option, keep a shambolic regime functioning a little longer. Or not a penny more. Flush them out and suffer the consequences. I don’t envy them their decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Yet you can't tell me why the article is spot on, it just is lol http://www.rangers.co.uk/images/staticcontent/documents/AnnualReport2013.pdf Rangers won the Scottish League Division 3 title by 24 points. Staff costs: £17,943,000 Other operating charges: £13,317,000 "No sane person would surely run a business the way they’ve run theirs." seems pretty spot on (although the syntax is poor) Edited August 31, 2014 by topcat(The most tip top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Wow whoever this Waddell chap is, he sure could give Scottish Phil a run for his money when it comes to being a tit. £70m squandered in 18 months, does this Waddell chap mentions this? Huge bonuses and wages, as well various fees and other assorted payouts at boardroom level. Does this Waddell chap mention it? Onerous contracts left, right and centre, i'm sure that this Waddeller chap will mention that.... No it's all down to the signing of a journeyman keeper. ...and we don't play any youngsters, jesus wept it is really too much to ask for some level headed journalism... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) This thread, for all the derision aimed towards it at times, is testament to everything that rangers have done wrong. Although I don't quite get the shtick that has the fans as innocent victims. They were loving it when they signed SPL players they couldn't afford. It's the rangers way. Edited August 31, 2014 by AberdeenBud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Wow whoever this Waddell chap is, he sure could give Scottish Phil a run for his money when it comes to being a tit. £70m squandered in 18 months, does this Waddell chap mentions this? Huge bonuses and wages, as well various fees and other assorted payouts at boardroom level. Does this Waddell chap mention it? Onerous contracts left, right and centre, i'm sure that this Waddeller chap will mention that.... No it's all down to the signing of a journeyman keeper. ...and we don't play any youngsters, jesus wept it is really too much to ask for some level headed journalism... Don't be daft Bennett. He's not putting it all down to the signing of Robinson. He is however suggesting that the signing is indicative of something badly wrong and damaging at the club. The fact that there are other things wrong, doesn't make him wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 This thread, for all the derision aimed towards it at times, is testament to everything that rangers have done wrong. You are half right. In terms of financial incompetence we deserve all the pelters we have had, I haven't an issue with that. I have said it before: this thread has been a real testament to how fans of other clubs view Rangers and it is one reason I love P&B rather than single-team forums. You missed the second good point of The Big Thread., though. It serves as a cathartic vehicle for the Plastics and Diddies. This has been spleen-venting central. In sum I love The Big Thread and am amused each day about how posting about Rangers make folk feel important. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Wow whoever this Waddell chap is, he sure could give Scottish Phil a run for his money when it comes to being a tit. £70m squandered in 18 months, does this Waddell chap mentions this? Huge bonuses and wages, as well various fees and other assorted payouts at boardroom level. Does this Waddell chap mention it? Onerous contracts left, right and centre, i'm sure that this Waddeller chap will mention that.... No it's all down to the signing of a journeyman keeper. ...and we don't play any youngsters, jesus wept it is really too much to ask for some level headed journalism... I think its more aimed at the part that you have the Scotland under 21 and under 19 goalkeepers on your books yet would rather add another salary to a far too bloated wage structure when you then come out with the cap firmly in hand. It is worrying that despite the awareness you are struggling for cash that the board would ok another signing. Its like they are trying to accelerate the process whilst looking like they are doing all they can to salvage the company/club. Seems fishy to me but then again none of this seems to have straight forward 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I think its more aimed at the part that you have the Scotland under 21 and under 19 goalkeepers on your books yet would rather add another salary to a far too bloated wage structure when you then come out with the cap firmly in hand. It is worrying that despite the awareness you are struggling for cash that the board would ok another signing. Its like they are trying to accelerate the process whilst looking like they are doing all they can to salvage the company/club. Seems fishy to me but then again none of this seems to have straight forward They are indeed but for this Waddell chap to completely miss out the main reasons for the clubs financial troubles is ludicrous. Don't be daft Bennett. He's not putting it all down to the signing of Robinson. He is however suggesting that the signing is indicative of something badly wrong and damaging at the club. The fact that there are other things wrong, doesn't make him wrong. He is trying to distort the facts and set an agenda, otherwise he'd have told it straight and not omitted the main reasons for the financial woes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Whats the actual status of Rangers just now btw? Are the actually in that much trouble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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