Monkey Tennis Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 As noted, we've been here before. How though Kincardine, would you define 'club' when we're talking about professional football, if it's something that can be altogether divorced from its governance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: For example, Dumbarton aren't a plc. They are a limited company. And a very limited footballing side, unfortunately. Anyhow, carry on everybody. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: As noted, we've been here before. How though Kincardine, would you define 'club' when we're talking about professional football, if it's something that can be altogether divorced from its governance? My contribution to this part of the thread was simply to correct the wee Falkirk fanny's* use of the word 'coterminous'. He was also the one who made the inexorable link between a club and its associated PLC/legal entity/Companies House registration. Better to ask him. *I realise that this epithet may cover a few posters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: My contribution to this part of the thread was simply to correct the wee Falkirk fanny's* use of the word 'coterminous'. He was also the one who made the inexorable link between a club and its associated PLC/legal entity/Companies House registration. Better to ask him. *I realise that this epithet may cover a few posters. Ah, defining 'club' within the terms you've set is something you can't convincingly do. Fair enough. I wouldn't be able to either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Ah, defining 'club' within the terms you've set is something you can't convincingly do. Fair enough. I wouldn't be able to either. There really is no need to define 'club' - we all know what it is. We also all know that it is separate from its associated commercial entity. Can anyone reasonably contest this? I am repeating myself but have done so over 6 years on this thread. Let me have another go: 1. The Wee Falkirk Fanny* misunderstood the definition of 'coterminous'. 2. Almost no club would regard their existence as coterminous with their registered entity. Edited November 18, 2018 by The_Kincardine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, The_Kincardine said: There really is no need to define 'club' - we all know what it is. We also all know that it is separate from its associated commercial entity. Can anyone reasonably contest this? I am repeating myself but have done so over 6 years on this thread. Let me have acoterminous nother go: 1. The Wee Falkirk Fanny* misunderstood the definition of 'coterminous'. 2. Almost no club would regard their existence as coterminous with their registered entity. Define 'club' in this context for me please. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 TWFF here. Whether or not I misused the word coterminous is neither here nor there.In 1899 RFC were incorporated and thus became indistinguishable from their corporate identity.That club is now in liquidation. The new club TRFC is owned and operated by Rangers International Football Club. These are facts. Kinc is flailing around embarrassing himself like a fish out of water, Mundell-like. Answer Monkey's question. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 19/11/2018 at 07:27, Ranaldo Bairn said: TWFF here. Whether or not I misused the word coterminous is neither here nor there. In 1899 RFC were incorporated and thus became indistinguishable from their corporate identity. That club is now in liquidation. The new club TRFC is owned and operated by Rangers International Football Club. These are facts. Kinc is flailing around embarrassing himself like a fish out of water, Mundell-like. Answer Monkey's question. Kinky has been expertly avoiding that question since a couple of months after rangers died. Good luck mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 New club, new shareholding, founded in 2012, no history, no trophies. (Those reside in BDO's offices, with the one currently in liquidation ongoing).TVM for the clarification. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) On 18/11/2018 at 21:58, The_Kincardine said: My contribution to this part of the thread was simply to correct the wee Falkirk fanny's* use of the word 'coterminous'. He was also the one who made the inexorable link between a club and its associated PLC/legal entity/Companies House registration. Better to ask him. *I realise that this epithet may cover a few posters. Still utterly unable to define what you mean by "club" in the context of this discussion then Kincardine? Edited November 24, 2018 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kildog Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Rangers cheated, then they died. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Chief Toffee Teeth Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Thankfully not Wishaw. I've gone from the hometown of Lanarkshire's finest team to the home of the worst. I never thought I'd say it, but Motherwell isn't too bad in the grand scheme of things.That's quite enough of that! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 They deid yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 They deid yet?Depends if general Ashley remembered to bring the tanks.Wee thought. If he diluted the shares to pay off the loans, brought himself under the concert party threshold, does he think it will all go away?If he does dilute shares and he is to make the offer, the reduced value post dilution would probably mean a greater uptake of the offer. Strange position to put himself in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Sevco must have climbed up the league a wee bit..... -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 hours ago, bennett said: Sevco must have climbed up the league a wee bit..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, weirdcal said: Depends if general Ashley remembered to bring the tanks. Wee thought. If he diluted the shares to pay off the loans, brought himself under the concert party threshold, does he think it will all go away? If he does dilute shares and he is to make the offer, the reduced value post dilution would probably mean a greater uptake of the offer. Strange position to put himself in True. Twenty pence a share was a steal 6 months ago. Now it's like winning a very small lottery. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muirkirk nil Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-agm-2018-live-updates-13647257 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, muirkirk nil said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-agm-2018-live-updates-13647257 Robertson: We cannot have a repeat to scenes after Celtic Park match A disabled fan asks: “I was injured at the last Old Firm game as a result of the ‘thug like’ behaviour of the Celtic players. Can you comment?” Stewart Robertson replies “Having seen the effects of what happened in September, players have a responsibility to be very careful about their reaction during and after games because every action can have a reaction. “We cannot have a repeat of that (scenes at the end of the first Old Firm game). Players have to be conscious of what they are doing and we have to hope we don’t see a repeat of that - anywhere.” The Rangers board blaming Celtic players for Rangers fans at Parkhead's behaviour leading to an injury on a disabled person If only they behaved like grown ups. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I expected Sky would have said something about this before the new deal was signed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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