Gaz Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Sadly, I fear you are correct. And if anyone thinks that Rangers fans are loud, arrogant braggarts at present, it's nothing compared to what they'll be like if (probably when) they're allowed to waltz back in as if nothing's happened. "Haha, yeez a' tried tae kill uz an' we're no deid! WATP!!!!""!11" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 a wee peek at Craig Whyte / White's record collection.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2JIexhpMNs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Am I going mental, or did Papac already announce around the turn of the year that he was leaving in the summer? He was wanting to leave at the end of his last contract(last close season) but signed the 1 year extension after talks with McCoist. I don't think there was ever any doubt he would leave at the end of this season. Not sure if he will sign for another club as he has had problems relating to a car accident when he suffered head injuries. He has never made a fuss about it and carried. The 1 positive to come out of the PLG fiasco and wish him all the best wherever he ends up. The other certainty to go is Doian whose agent has made it clear he would leave in the summer if he can find a suitable club. I am sure he will have no problem moving the Big Man on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pansypotterthedirtyrotter Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 (edited) Here's some legal stuff on hiving down: My link heres some stuff on asset stripping. linkywinky if this doesn't describe whats happening to rangers down to a T then what does. we should all report them to the serious fraud office. Edited May 4, 2012 by pansypotterthedirtyrotter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 He was wanting to leave at the end of his last contract(last close season) but signed the 1 year extension after talks with McCoist. I don't think there was ever any doubt he would leave at the end of this season. Not sure if he will sign for another club as he has had problems relating to a car accident when he suffered head injuries. He has never made a fuss about it and carried. The 1 positive to come out of the PLG fiasco and wish him all the best wherever he ends up. The other certainty to go is Doian whose agent has made it clear he would leave in the summer if he can find a suitable club. I am sure he will have no problem moving the Big Man on Those pesky journalists never get it right. They actually want to leave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Re the Miller quote "from now on, Rangers will live within its means - no excuses" Is that not the line Calum Melville pedalled at Dens on a regular basis, before he was found out? In fairness Brazil doesn`t normally have a clue... ... with the greatest respect Your right, he doesn't normally have a clue but how does that piece end up available to the public? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussy Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 heres some stuff on asset stripping. linkywinky if this doesn't describe whats happening to rangers down to a T then what does. we should all report them to the serious fraud office. We should bookmark this for if (lol) Miller goes ahead with his takeover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Maybe it's time the ministry for justice started bombarding his hometown media with the reality of Bigotry FC. Both of Glasgow's Bigotry FC's I hope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 (edited) Letter to SFA/SPL Excellent stuff, rephrase it & get one sent off to Stephen Thompson as well. I`ve already sent one. Newcastle Are you on drugs? Danny Simpson, Santon, been linked with another French LB. Edited May 4, 2012 by Desert Nomad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Very stupid indeed. No sympathy from me either. Collyer Bristow won't be liable for anything, and I suspect that D&Ps know this fine well. Their action is simply a PR stunt to make it seem that they are pursuing all avenue. An utter farce. Taking these things through court is a very expensive exercise. Where would they get the money to fritter away on a pointless action? Oh, err, hang on a minute.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismcarab Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Excellent stuff, rephrase it & get one sent off to Stephen Thompson as well. e already sent one.I`v done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Those pesky journalists never get it right. They actually want to leave That was when we went into Admin. Papac had no re-sale value as his contract was up at the end of the season and was amongst the obvious ones to be released. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Now you're just trolling. Kilmarnock v St Mirren thread runs for 11 pages...Not 1 post from you. Kilmarnock v Aberdeen thread...your club are playing them this weekend...Not 1 post from you. And you accuse others of trolling 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottxs Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Phew, had a few hours to spare so after a few strong coffees, decided to send this to the SFA and SPL email addresses that someone posted......wont expect a reply though! Dear Curators of Scottish football, it is with some regret that I find myself writing to you. Not that I, personally, have done anything wrong in respect of the circumstances that Rangers Football Club finds itself in. I'm just a football fan who loves his club and has done nothing wrong. I think this rhetoric will be all too familiar to you. From the hundreds of Rangers supporters, Mr. Jardine, the Rangers Fighting Fund, supporters clubs, Mr. Whyte, Mr. Murray et al. It seems this plea rings out from Ibrox on a daily basis as the backdrop to the biggest charade in Scottish Football history. Of which you are currently joint custodians. Now, I felt it best to reinforce the above points first, before revealing myself to be a fan of a provincial SPL team and a member of the Tartan Army. If ever a group of fans can rightfully claim to be the best supporters in the world, it is without question Scotland fans. A reputation that has been hard earned over the past 30 years, home and away, with global recognition. I speak for many ordinary fans on football forums and message boards across the world when I say, we too - the fans of the non Old Firm teams - have done nothing wrong. We choose to follow our teams into each match and each season with the same passion and loyalties as fans of the big two. We have chosen to do so with less expectation of success or big money signings, with the prize of Europe, avoiding relegation and a possible cup run as the potential highlight to our season before a ball is kicked every August. We have done so in the belief that all clubs entered into each season with a full grasp of the rules, be they football or financial, as defined by your articles of association and carried penalties that would be meted out as punishment for rule breakers. We have done so in the belief that numerical supporter advantage and wealthy benefactors were the cornerstones of the success at Old Firm clubs.We accepted this as the fabric of the Scottish game and were thankful for opportunities of success when they arose. Now, with a most sinister fog in the air, your time has come. A time to show all fans of Scottish football and the eyes and ears of the watching world, that you can see through to the end Scotland will retain it's morals and sporting integrity no matter the cost. To do otherwise is to be complicit in the whole affair. Current circumstances have proven that one club has systematically and consistently broken or bent the rules of our legal system and your own associations to ensure the illusion of success has been maintained at all costs. We, the fans, know you will be aware of many more facts than we will ever be privy to, that we may never know the true situation within Ibrox. Frankly, most of us don't care about how this came to be, who was responsible, why it came about. That is for Rangers and the relevant authorities to establish. Neither do we care for the hollow pleas of an establishment that knowingly perpetrated these breaches of law and football governance that they should be treated as a 'special case'. More than several Old Firm ex managers and players have tried to justify this in monetary or supporter terms. Justification for special cases comes in many forms, never has sheer weight of numbers been sufficient evidence. I empathise with the philosophy, but to suggest leniency based of this fact alone is folly. To suggest none at all so that the cheating guilty party remains a dominant force is sheer lunacy. We fans understand the commercial value of Rangers, but the upcoming decision for football organisations must not be based on commercial value without first having done all of the sums. Not just by looking at what Rangers bring, but what they are deemed to have gained over the period in question. This may prove to be unquantifiable until you have concluded all investigations into the legality of the EBT scheme. If assessing Rangers commercial worth ongoing is your primary focus for the Scottish game, then it is something that must be done with the benefit of hindsight factored in. What they are worth minus what they have gained, as the difference would have been secured by remaining competitors in league position bonuses, cup runs and designated European places during the period of illegal practices. This must be a key component in your decision making process. To right the wrongs in a footballing sense. Mr. Doncaster has stated that it is possible that a newco Rangers would be accepted into the SPL as the current rules allow for such an event. It appears to the average fan, who is worth at approximately £25 per game to most clubs, that a new Rangers may yet be absolved of any appropriate sanctions or punishments by the SPL. It would seem that your associations are about to enter a most interesting conflict of viewpoints. If the fair and appropriate punishments handed out to Rangers by the SFA Judicial Panel are not upheld, we the fans will require justification in full for any such action. Many large footballing clubs have suffered similar crisis to that of Glasgow Rangers and had to pay the penalties, from Scotland to England to Italy. No status or special case considerations at play. If morality and sporting integrity are bequeathed to monetary value with the whole world watching, Scotland will be forever remembered as the nation that approved cheating in association football. We do not envy your position gentlemen, but you are the custodians of our game and, as such, have a most difficult task to perform. The laws, as Mr. Regan rightly states, must be applied without fear or favour. To do otherwise would represent a gross miscalculation of feeling amongst supporters of all clubs at all levels of football. No justification can ever be offered for greed and self interest. Do the right thing. EDIT: Feel free to copy and paste and send your own done and sent to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Kilmarnock v St Mirren thread runs for 11 pages...Not 1 post from you. Kilmarnock v Aberdeen thread...your club are playing them this weekend...Not 1 post from you. And you accuse others of trolling Quite rightly, troll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Have you seen the attendances this season in the SPL? The fans have deserted their own clubs in droves. Maybe if they actually went along to the games and put the money into their own clubs we wouldn't have such a stale boring league which is dominated by the only 2 clubs who fill their stadium every second week. It is just too easy to point the finger of blame at the OF rather than trying to get the fans of other clubs back where they are needed. If supporters of other clubs think they can harm Rangers in any way by not attending games they are deluded. I could not care less if any of them went back ever again. They only people they will be hurting will be their own clubs and if that is what they choose to do then so be it. You can't even fill mordor when your clubs on its knees!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussy Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 done I pinched a few bits of it for my, probably over-lengthy, email to Michael Johnston. Hopefully at least some of our chairmen will get back to us. Unlikely they'll say anything that commits them to anything though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Not sure if he will sign for another club as he has had problems relating to a car accident when he suffered head injuries. He has never made a fuss about it and carried. The 1 positive to come out of the PLG fiasco and wish him all the best wherever he ends up. ..Not so - St Johnstone knocked you out of the cup that was positive... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopompey Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 UEFA statement... “Clubs are not allowed to change their legal form or structure in order to obtain a licence, simply by ‘cleaning up’ their balance sheet while offloading debts – thus harming creditors (including employees and social/tax authorities) as well as threatening the integrity of sporting competition. Any such alteration of a club’s legal form or structure is deemed to be an interruption to its membership of a UEFA member association and, consequently, three years must pass before a club can apply again for a UEFA licence. In other words, the three-year rule is designed basically to avoid circumvention of the club licensing system." “If a club sets up a new company simply to avoid paying its debts or obligations then they would almost certainly fail the three-year rule [for obtaining the required Uefa licence] This is to ensure clubs do not simply create a ‘newco’ and leave the previous entity in charge of dealing with debts.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Tam Cowan's giving it laldy on Sportsound. Great stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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